Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

[Mark Sapiro]

On 10/30/2015 08:25 AM, Abdallah Dhaou wrote:
> hello,
> 
> So after some changes , I got another error :/
> 
> -Start copy
> ---
> Group_mismatch_error.__Mailman_expected_the_mail/wrapper_script_to_be_executed_as_group_"daemon",_but/the_system's_mail_server_executed_the_mail_script_as/group_"nofiles".__Try_tweaking_the_mail_server_to_run_the/script_as_group_"daemon",_or_re-run_configure,_/providing_the_command_line_option_`--with-mail-gid=nofiles'./
> 
> -End copy


See the FAQ at 

If you still have issues, please post how you installed Mailman (source
or Debian package) and if you installed from package, be sure you have
read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Debian and everything else in the
package related to qmail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

[Abdallah Dhaou]

hello,

So after some changes , I got another error :/

-Start copy 
---

Group_mismatch_error.__Mailman_expected_the_mail/wrapper_script_to_be_executed_as_group_"daemon",_but/the_system's_mail_server_executed_the_mail_script_as/group_"nofiles".__Try_tweaking_the_mail_server_to_run_the/script_as_group_"daemon",_or_re-run_configure,_/providing_the_command_line_option_`--with-mail-gid=nofiles'./
-End copy 
---



the script check_perms  don't return any error
-Start copy 
---

ipb-srv41:/var/qmail# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms
No problems found
-End copy 
---


any help will be much appreciated.

On 29-10-2015 16:13, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 10/29/2015 08:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
See  for some
information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.

Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .


I am reminded by Fabian Santiago's reply that there is also a
qmail-to-mailman.py script. In a source install, the base script is in
contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py and a 'configured' script is in
build/contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py

I don't know what the situation is in the Debian package, but given
Debian's proclivity towards postfix-to-mailman.py (not distributed by
the GNU Mailman project), they may well have a way to set this up for Qmail.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

[Lindsay Haisley]

On Thu, 2015-10-29 at 08:52 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/29/2015 06:19 AM, Abdallah Dhaou wrote:
> > I have a problem configuring mailman 2.1.18 with qmail on Debian .
> ...
> > To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
> > equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
> > `newaliases' program:
> > 
> > ## list1 mailing list
> > list1:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list1"
> > list1-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1"
> > list1-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1"
> > list1-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list1"
> > list1-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list1"
> > list1-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list1"
> > list1-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list1"
> > list1-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list1"
> > list1-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list1"
> > list1-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list1"
> > 
> ...
> > My questions are the following:
> > 1- where those alias are stored ?
> > 2- is there an addional config to do with qmail ?
> > 3- why the user receive email to subscribe/unsubscribe , but the admin
> > couldn't sedn email to the list ?

There's an excellent program in Mailman's contrib folder in the source
called qmail-to-mailman.py which eliminates the need for specific
aliases as you have listed. It's been years since I used qmail but as I
recall, qmail has the ability to process a mail to a list through a
configurable program. I adapted qmail-to-mailman.py to create
courier-to-mailman (also in contrib) for the courier MTA, which is
similar to qmail in some regards, and it works perfectly.


> Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
> See  for some
> information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.
> 
> Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
> the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
> it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .
> 
> As to your third question, Mailman has no problem delivering outgoing
> mail to Qmail via SMTP to port 25 on localhost, but Qmail doesn't know
> how to deliver incoming list mail to Mailman. The info at
>  should help with
> that.
> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

[Mark Sapiro]

On 10/29/2015 08:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> 
> Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
> See  for some
> information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.
> 
> Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
> the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
> it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .


I am reminded by Fabian Santiago's reply that there is also a
qmail-to-mailman.py script. In a source install, the base script is in
contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py and a 'configured' script is in
build/contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py

I don't know what the situation is in the Debian package, but given
Debian's proclivity towards postfix-to-mailman.py (not distributed by
the GNU Mailman project), they may well have a way to set this up for Qmail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

[Mark Sapiro]

On 10/29/2015 06:19 AM, Abdallah Dhaou wrote:
> I have a problem configuring mailman 2.1.18 with qmail on Debian .
...
> To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
> equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
> `newaliases' program:
> 
> ## list1 mailing list
> list1:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list1"
> list1-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1"
> list1-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1"
> list1-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list1"
> list1-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list1"
> list1-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list1"
> list1-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list1"
> list1-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list1"
> list1-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list1"
> list1-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list1"
> 
...
> My questions are the following:
> 1- where those alias are stored ?
> 2- is there an addional config to do with qmail ?
> 3- why the user receive email to subscribe/unsubscribe , but the admin
> couldn't sedn email to the list ?


Those aliases are generic for sendmail and postfix. Qmail is different.
See  for some
information about mail delivery from Qmail to Mailman.

Also note if you are installing the Debian Mailman package with Qmail as
the MTA, this should somehow be covered in Debian's documentation and if
it isn't that's a Debian bug. See .

As to your third question, Mailman has no problem delivering outgoing
mail to Qmail via SMTP to port 25 on localhost, but Qmail doesn't know
how to deliver incoming list mail to Mailman. The info at
 should help with
that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail problem

[fsantiago]

See if this helps you:

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mailman

But probably a question better asked on a Qmail related mailing list like:

qmailtoaster-l...@qmailtoaster.com


Sincerely,

Fabian Santiago

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Abdallah Dhaou  wrote:
> 
> I have a problem configuring mailman 2.1.18 with qmail on Debian .
> 
> Short version : The package is installed, users could subscribe to the list, 
> unsubscribe ... everything work fine, but it always fail to send an email to 
> all members.
> 
> Long version : The package is installed, users could subscribe to the list, 
> unsubscribe ... everything work fine. Once I access to the email of the 
> list's administartor and try to send an email to all members, it always fail. 
> This is what I have in the log
> 
>  start copy 
> @4000563118d016611294 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa225c516c new msg 394714
> @4000563118fa225c610c info msg 394714: bytes 1519 from 
>  qp 30138 uid 901
> @4000563118fa229d1774 starting delivery 1: msg 394714 to local 
> l...@ipb-srv41.domain41.com
> @4000563118fa229d1f44 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa229d232c starting delivery 2: msg 394714 to local 
> list-listso...@lists.ipb-srv41.domain41.com
> @4000563118fa229d2714 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa255f583c delivery 2: failure: 
> Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
> @4000563118fa255f67dc status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa29c93654 delivery 1: success: 
> October_28,_2015,_6:50_pm_-_30142_-_DIR:/tmp/emails/mail1446058224.65219600/_Fim/did_0+0+1/
> @4000563118fa29c949dc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa2b23730c bounce msg 394714 qp 30153
> @4000563118fa2b237ec4 end msg 394714
> @4000563118fa2b2ac9f4 new msg 394975
> @4000563118fa2b2acddc info msg 394975: bytes 2092 from <> qp 30153 uid 906
> @4000563118fa2b5e64e4 starting delivery 3: msg 394975 to local 
> l...@ipb-srv41.domain41.com
> @4000563118fa2b5e6cb4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> @4000563118fa2b5e6cb4 starting delivery 4: msg 394975 to local 
> so...@domain41.com
> @4000563118fa2b5e709c status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
>  End copy 
> 
> While I create a list from the command line
> ---
> ipb-srv41:/var/qmail# newlist list1
> Enter the email of the person running the list: administra...@domain41.com
> Initial list1 password:
> To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
> equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
> `newaliases' program:
> 
> ## list1 mailing list
> list1:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post list1"
> list1-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin list1"
> list1-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list1"
> list1-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm list1"
> list1-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join list1"
> list1-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave list1"
> list1-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner list1"
> list1-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request list1"
> list1-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list1"
> list1-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe list1"
> 
> Hit enter to notify list1 owner...
> 
> ipb-srv41:/var/qmail#
> ---
> 
> My questions are the following:
> 1- where those alias are stored ?
> 2- is there an addional config to do with qmail ?
> 3- why the user receive email to subscribe/unsubscribe , but the admin 
> couldn't sedn email to the list ?
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