Re: [Mailman-Users] Member receives rejected message but message goesthrough
A couple of other possibilities come to mind. Possibly another list in another installation is a member of this list and that list is rejecting the post. We don't utilize umbrella list. Is that what you thinking of? Possibly this list has Auto-responder - autorespond_postings set to Yes, and autoresponse_postings_text contains the text the user receives. The autorepond_postings is set to No and no text for autoreponse_postings On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Hung Phan wrote: Here is the vette log for the most recent 3 days Mar 07 00:44:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 02:11:49 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 02:23:29 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 07:42:36 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 12:18:14 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 12:51:27 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:12:35 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:18:09 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:22:21 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 09:04:04 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 16:55:13 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 17:32:15 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 19:17:24 2010 (2371) CHS_parents post from no- replyvi...@ccu.edu held, message-id=b41139df.cbef8...@ccu.edu: Post by non-member to a members-only list Mar 09 00:40:12 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 01:25:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 02:49:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 07:25:57 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 07:54:43 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Here is the post log for that particular post: Mar 08 09:57:08 2010 (2373) post to csd_certified from ca...@canby.k12.or.us , size=5515, message-id=b8eadc911003080954r17a73e92iec9a1bb4f1cbc...@mail.gmail.com , success So there was no 'reject' in the vette log, so the reject message the poster received wasn't a reject of the post, at least not from this list/installation. A couple of other possibilities come to mind. Possibly another list in another installation is a member of this list and that list is rejecting the post. Possibly this list has Auto-responder - autorespond_postings set to Yes, and autoresponse_postings_text contains the text the user receives. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member receives rejected message but message goesthrough
Hung Phan wrote: Possibly another list in another installation is a member of this list and that list is rejecting the post. We don't utilize umbrella list. Is that what you thinking of? Yes and no. Unless you absolutely control your list membership, someone could subscribe an address to your list which is actually, directly or via an alias or forwarder, the posting address of another list. Examine the rejection notice including all headers. from what list/server does it originate? Look at Received: and X-BeenThere: headers. I won't say absolutely that it's not possible, but I don't think Mailman can send a rejected notice without logging it in the vette log, and if it does, it's a bug, and I'd like to know how it's happening so I can fix it. I also don't think Mailman can 'reject' a post and then have the same post (not a duplicate) accepted for the list. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member receives rejected message but message goesthrough
Thank you, Mark Here is the vette log for the most recent 3 days Mar 07 00:44:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 02:11:49 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 02:23:29 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 07:42:36 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 12:18:14 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 12:51:27 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:12:35 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:18:09 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:22:21 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 09:04:04 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 16:55:13 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 17:32:15 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 19:17:24 2010 (2371) CHS_parents post from no- replyvi...@ccu.edu held, message-id=b41139df.cbef8...@ccu.edu: Post by non-member to a members-only list Mar 09 00:40:12 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 01:25:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 02:49:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 07:25:57 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 07:54:43 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Here is the post log for that particular post: Mar 08 09:57:08 2010 (2373) post to csd_certified from ca...@canby.k12.or.us , size=5515, message-id=b8eadc911003080954r17a73e92iec9a1bb4f1cbc...@mail.gmail.com , success On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Hung Phan wrote: We have a moderated list with 325 members. The list is set to reject post from moderated members with a custom rejected message. A member is set to allow sending. Every time this person send message through the list, it kicks back a rejected message to the user but the message goes through. The reject message that the user receive is generic from Mailman. Look in Mailman's vette log and find all the entries relevant to this user's post. If after that, you still don't know what's happening, post the vette log messages here, We double-check and the user doesn't have the mod option checked. The user is also enlisted in List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. If the user is a list member, moderated or not, putting the user's address in any of *_these_nonmembers is irrelevant because those apply only to addresses which aren't list members. Where can we find the file that keep the user mod setting? Has anyone experience this issue? Solution? The file is lists/LISTNAME/config.pck. You can look at it with bin/dumpdb, but I guarantee that you won't find anything there that contradicts what the list's admin Membership List shows you. The mod bit is the 2^7 (128) bit in the user's value in the user_options dictionary. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member receives rejected message but message goesthrough
Hung Phan wrote: Here is the vette log for the most recent 3 days Mar 07 00:44:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 02:11:49 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 02:23:29 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 07:42:36 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 12:18:14 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 12:51:27 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:12:35 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:18:09 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 07 23:22:21 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 09:04:04 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 16:55:13 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 17:32:15 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 08 19:17:24 2010 (2371) CHS_parents post from no- replyvi...@ccu.edu held, message-id=b41139df.cbef8...@ccu.edu: Post by non-member to a members-only list Mar 09 00:40:12 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 01:25:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 02:49:22 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 07:25:57 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Mar 09 07:54:43 2010 (2371) Message discarded, msgid: n/a Here is the post log for that particular post: Mar 08 09:57:08 2010 (2373) post to csd_certified from ca...@canby.k12.or.us , size=5515, message-id=b8eadc911003080954r17a73e92iec9a1bb4f1cbc...@mail.gmail.com , success So there was no 'reject' in the vette log, so the reject message the poster received wasn't a reject of the post, at least not from this list/installation. A couple of other possibilities come to mind. Possibly another list in another installation is a member of this list and that list is rejecting the post. Possibly this list has Auto-responder - autorespond_postings set to Yes, and autoresponse_postings_text contains the text the user receives. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member receives rejected message but message goesthrough
Hung Phan wrote: We have a moderated list with 325 members. The list is set to reject post from moderated members with a custom rejected message. A member is set to allow sending. Every time this person send message through the list, it kicks back a rejected message to the user but the message goes through. The reject message that the user receive is generic from Mailman. Look in Mailman's vette log and find all the entries relevant to this user's post. If after that, you still don't know what's happening, post the vette log messages here, We double-check and the user doesn't have the mod option checked. The user is also enlisted in List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. If the user is a list member, moderated or not, putting the user's address in any of *_these_nonmembers is irrelevant because those apply only to addresses which aren't list members. Where can we find the file that keep the user mod setting? Has anyone experience this issue? Solution? The file is lists/LISTNAME/config.pck. You can look at it with bin/dumpdb, but I guarantee that you won't find anything there that contradicts what the list's admin Membership List shows you. The mod bit is the 2^7 (128) bit in the user's value in the user_options dictionary. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
