Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' There is no SMTP_HOST or SMTP_PORT defined. -Layne On Oct 5, 2004, at 4:33 PM, John Dennis wrote: Looks like you're getting smtp connection failures. What is your DELIVERY_MODULE set to? What is your SMTP_HOST and SMTP_PORT set to? Can you telnet to these? Does your SMTP server require authentication? John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
At 3:26 PM -0400 2004-10-05, Layne Meier wrote: What am I doing wrong? System: Sun E250 Solaris 8 Postfix v2.1.5 Python v2.2.3 I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.008.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
I downloaded and tried Python 2.3.4. Every time I try to untar it I get the following error (always at the same place). - I am using GNU Tar. x Python-2.3.4/Mac/OSXResources/app/Resources/English.lproj/ Documentation/ide/IDE.gif, 10249 bytes, 21 tape blocks tar: directory checksum error Layne On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:33 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: At 3:26 PM -0400 2004-10-05, Layne Meier wrote: What am I doing wrong? System: Sun E250 Solaris 8 Postfix v2.1.5 Python v2.2.3 I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=showfile=faq05.008.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
Are you certain that it started without any errors? I have been able to run the web interface without any problems on servers with python versions other than 2.3, but the qrunner doesn't work for me unless python 2.3.3 is installed. Kristina On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:46:32PM -0400, Layne Meier wrote: - Yes, I am running qrunner. - - Layne - - - On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:20 PM, K. Clair wrote: - - This might seem like a silly question, but did you start up the - qrunner? - - Kristina - - On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:26:02PM -0400, Layne Meier wrote: - - Okay - so I must be totally clueless here. I'm now able to create a - - list with my web interface. I followed the instructions to the - letter. - - I created a list and subscribed to it, but I never got an e-mail to - - confirm my subscription to the list. I look at the pending.pck file - - and see my subscription, but I monitored Postfix (via - /var/log/syslog) - - and the e-mail to my external account never even left the server. - - - - What am I doing wrong? - - - - System: - - Sun E250 - - Solaris 8 - - Postfix v2.1.5 - - Python v2.2.3 - - Mailman v2.1.5 - - Apache v2.0.47 - - - - ./configure options: - - --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python - - --with-username=mailman --with-groupname=mailman - - --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-cid=daemon - - --with-mailhost=mail.mydomain.tld --with-urlhost=www.mydomain.tld - - --with-gcc=yes - - - - - - Thank you, - - Layne Meier - - Atlanta Newspapers, Inc. - - - - -- - - Mailman-Users mailing list - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users - - Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - - Searchable Archives: - http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 15:33, Brad Knowles wrote: I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.008.htp. Either that FAQ entry is misleading or not quite true (no pun intended :-). It seems to suggest that the need for python 2.3 comes from unresolved symbols True and False. But according to the python doc (see below) the symbols were added in 2.2.1 but with a different type, but it should still work. We (Red Hat) have several distributions that have 2.2.x installed and successfully run mailman 2.1.5. Perhaps I've misinterpreted 2.3 requirement issue cited in the FAQ. http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/section-bool.html A Boolean type was added to Python 2.3. Two new constants were added to the __builtin__ module, True and False. (True and False constants were added to the built-ins in Python 2.2.1, but the 2.2.1 versions are simply set to integer values of 1 and 0 and aren't a different type.) -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
I started it using the /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start command. I ran a ps -ef | grep for qrunner and it showed a process was running. I'll try to see if I can download the 2.3.3 Python, but I wasn't having much luck uncompressing the 2.3.4 release. -Layne On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:39 PM, K. Clair wrote: Are you certain that it started without any errors? I have been able to run the web interface without any problems on servers with python versions other than 2.3, but the qrunner doesn't work for me unless python 2.3.3 is installed. Kristina On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:46:32PM -0400, Layne Meier wrote: - Yes, I am running qrunner. - - Layne - - - On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:20 PM, K. Clair wrote: - - This might seem like a silly question, but did you start up the - qrunner? - - Kristina - - On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:26:02PM -0400, Layne Meier wrote: - - Okay - so I must be totally clueless here. I'm now able to create a - - list with my web interface. I followed the instructions to the - letter. - - I created a list and subscribed to it, but I never got an e-mail to - - confirm my subscription to the list. I look at the pending.pck file - - and see my subscription, but I monitored Postfix (via - /var/log/syslog) - - and the e-mail to my external account never even left the server. - - - - What am I doing wrong? - - - - System: - - Sun E250 - - Solaris 8 - - Postfix v2.1.5 - - Python v2.2.3 - - Mailman v2.1.5 - - Apache v2.0.47 - - - - ./configure options: - - --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python - - --with-username=mailman --with-groupname=mailman - - --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-cid=daemon - - --with-mailhost=mail.mydomain.tld --with-urlhost=www.mydomain.tld - - --with-gcc=yes - - - - - - Thank you, - - Layne Meier - - Atlanta Newspapers, Inc. - - - - -- - - Mailman-Users mailing list - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users - - Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - - Searchable Archives: - http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
Did you look in the mailman logs? Did you look at the system log file? I assume since you can see your message in the mm queue parts of mail are running, but some reason its not getting into the MTA? Have you verified you can use SMTP with postfix? Have you configured the postfix local SMTP delivery? Are you having a postfix vs. sendmail personality conflict? (e.g. some postfix files can be installed to emulate sendmail) What happens when you telnet localhost 25? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
I checked in the mailman logs. A lot of data to parse, not certain which is pertinent. However, in the smtp-failure log, I see the following... Oct 05 16:02:24 2004 (275) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: mailman.0.1097003715.12230.mailman @onmyhonor.info Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (323) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: mailman.0.1097003901.12269.mailman @onmyhonor.info Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (323) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:03:39 2004 (372) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: mailman.0.1097003715.12230.mailman @onmyhonor.info Oct 05 16:03:39 2004 (372) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') I can use SMTP with Postfix. I've used Postfix for a very long time now. Postfix local delivery is correctly set up, with no personality conflict. When I telnet to host at port 25, I do get an SMTP login. Layne On Oct 5, 2004, at 4:05 PM, John Dennis wrote: Did you look in the mailman logs? Did you look at the system log file? I assume since you can see your message in the mm queue parts of mail are running, but some reason its not getting into the MTA? Have you verified you can use SMTP with postfix? Have you configured the postfix local SMTP delivery? Are you having a postfix vs. sendmail personality conflict? (e.g. some postfix files can be installed to emulate sendmail) What happens when you telnet localhost 25? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
At 3:52 PM -0400 2004-10-05, John Dennis wrote: I don't know if this is the only problem, but Python 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.008.htp. Either that FAQ entry is misleading or not quite true (no pun intended :-). It seems to suggest that the need for python 2.3 comes from unresolved symbols True and False. But according to the python doc (see below) the symbols were added in 2.2.1 but with a different type, but it should still work. I can't tell you the precise internal Python reasons, but my understanding is that version 2.3 is required for use with Mailman 2.1.5. We (Red Hat) have several distributions that have 2.2.x installed and successfully run mailman 2.1.5. Perhaps I've misinterpreted 2.3 requirement issue cited in the FAQ. This may or may not work, depending on a variety of factors. Operation of Mailman 2.1.5 with anything less than Python 2.3 may or may not fail at any given time, depending on the particular path of execution you're following through the code. Unless you want to make source code modifications every time your Mailman installation dies due to yet another place where certain assumptions being made by the code were violated, you need to upgrade to Python 2.3. Using anything older is officially unsupported. At least, that's my understanding. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
Looks like you're getting smtp connection failures. What is your DELIVERY_MODULE set to? What is your SMTP_HOST and SMTP_PORT set to? Can you telnet to these? Does your SMTP server require authentication? John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
Hmm... now that I think about it, connection refused, are you hitting a firewall on that port? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
Layne Meier wrote: I downloaded and tried Python 2.3.4. Every time I try to untar it I get the following error (always at the same place). - I am using GNU Tar. x Python-2.3.4/Mac/OSXResources/app/Resources/English.lproj/ Documentation/ide/IDE.gif, 10249 bytes, 21 tape blocks tar: directory checksum error Are you sure you're using the tar you think? This looks a lot like Warning for Solaris and HP-UX users: Some versions of the Solaris and HP/UX versions of tar(1) report checksum errors and are unable to unpack the Python source tree. This is caused by some pathnames being too long for the vendor's version. Use GNU tar instead. Did you verify the MD5 checksum for the downloaded file against those at http://www.python.org/2.3.4/ ? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] More help - please
At 4:17 PM -0400 2004-10-05, Layne Meier wrote: Oct 05 16:02:24 2004 (275) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (275) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (323) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 05 16:02:35 2004 (323) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') Oct 05 16:03:39 2004 (372) Low level smtp error: (146, 'Connection refused'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 05 16:03:39 2004 (372) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (146, 'Connection refused') It looks to me like your Mailman program can't talk to your own MTA. As to why this is happening, it's hard to say. I can use SMTP with Postfix. I've used Postfix for a very long time now. Postfix local delivery is correctly set up, with no personality conflict. When I telnet to host at port 25, I do get an SMTP login. It could be a reverse DNS problem, you could be connecting to the wrong IP address for the given name, it could be a firewall problem, any number of things could be wrong. But this sounds to me like this is a problem with your MTA, and is most likely to be successfully resolved through resources specific to your MTA or your OS -- try the postfix-users mailing list, among others. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
