Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email -- SOLVED!
Greetings, list members! You may have heard my shout of triumph right over the Internet. I woke up this morning with the answer to this problem in my head. It is, as with most such things, a really simple problem and the answer was staring me in the face the whole time. To recap the problem: My lists were all working perfectly, except that *I* was not receiving posts. The mail to the lists was being filtered from my own login account using procmail. My procmail filters were built on the assumption that mail from my personal address, (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to one of my lists ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) would reach Mailman and would emerge as mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I was forgetting that the To: header DOESN'T CHANGE when Mailman forwards the message. Only the *envelope* address changes, to allow the output of Mailman to be accurately delivered to me. As an email admin for several years, I *knew* that. I have no idea what caused me to go blind to this simple fact as I configured procmail. sigh Not enough coffee, I guess. Anyway, for the record and for the benefit of anyone reading this thread in the archives, the root of the problem was that messages sent out by Mailman to me were going back into Mailman as a result of the To: header still pointing to the list. Mailman was finding the X-BeenThere: header and (correctly) sending the message to /dev/null, so to speak. Solution: At the beginning of ~/.procmailrc, add the following lines: :0: * ^X-BeenThere:.*$ $DEFAULT That's it! Adding these three lines made everything work perfectly. The only catch is that this rule has to be at the very top of the .procmailrc file, prior to any Mailman-related rules. Thanks to all, especially Raquel, for the replies to my question on-list. You folks got me asking the basic questions again, and I thereby found the obvious problem hidden inside its mask of subtle symptoms. :-) Kind regards, Scott -- ---+-- Scott Courtney | I don't mind Microsoft making money. I mind them [EMAIL PROTECTED] | having a bad operating system.-- Linus Torvalds http://www.4th.com/| (The Rebel Code, NY Times, 21 February 1999) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Thursday 30 May 2002 01:11 am, Raquel Rice wrote: I like checking the easy stuff first. Always a good policy. We've all been bitten in the backside by easy stuff that got overlooked. :-) Have you subscribed your two main addresses to the lists? Are those two addresses set to nomail? Yes, they are subscribed, and they are not nomail. I was certain of this but in the interest of completeness I rechecked just now. Also, the not metoo option is turned OFF for each address, meaning they *do* receive copies of their own posts. As a further bit of info, when a message is delivered to the list, the log /var/log/maillog actually shows SMTP traffic outbound to each of my two main addresses plus the separate test address. The test address is the only one that receives it, though. My main addresses get only the one-byte messages that appear to be just a bare linefeed or ^D character. Oh, and by the way, my mailbox file's modification date gets touched. Scott -- ---+-- Scott Courtney | I don't mind Microsoft making money. I mind them [EMAIL PROTECTED] | having a bad operating system.-- Linus Torvalds http://www.4th.com/| (The Rebel Code, NY Times, 21 February 1999) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Thu, 30 May 2002 08:05:28 -0400 Scott Courtney Scott Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, they are subscribed, and they are not nomail. I was certain of this but in the interest of completeness I rechecked just now. Also, the not metoo option is turned OFF for each address, meaning they *do* receive copies of their own posts. As a further bit of info, when a message is delivered to the list, the log /var/log/maillog actually shows SMTP traffic outbound to each of my two main addresses plus the separate test address. The test address is the only one that receives it, though. My main addresses get only the one-byte messages that appear to be just a bare linefeed or ^D character. Oh, and by the way, my mailbox file's modification date gets touched. Scott Do you get mail sent directly to those addresses ... not through the list? -- Raquel Be a fountain, not a drain. --Rex Hudler -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Thursday 30 May 2002 11:24 am, Raquel Rice wrote: Do you get mail sent directly to those addresses ... not through the list? Flawlessly, yes. And I apologize for not having mentioned that in my original post. It was in my brain but never came out on the keyboard. Scott -- ---+-- Scott Courtney | I don't mind Microsoft making money. I mind them [EMAIL PROTECTED] | having a bad operating system.-- Linus Torvalds http://www.4th.com/| (The Rebel Code, NY Times, 21 February 1999) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Wed, 29 May 2002 21:42:13 -0400 Scott Courtney Scott Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, all, or good morning to those in distant time zones! snip Everything works -- except that *I* get no mail from the list! I have tried sending mail to the list from several subscribed addresses, and it all goes through and posts to everyone but my two main addresses. Oddly enough, all regular inbound mail is caught by the first procmail rule and stays in my $DEFAULT folder as intended. I have verified this by temporarily putting another folder name in there. No errors in any of the SMTP logs, Mailman logs, or procmail logs. The procmail log shows a one-byte message being posted to my /var/spool/mail/mylogin mailbox. That's the only anomaly. Any ideas? Kind regards, Scott Scott, I like checking the easy stuff first. Have you subscribed your two main addresses to the lists? Are those two addresses set to nomail? -- Raquel One of the greatest victories you can gain over someone is to beat him at politeness --Josh Billings -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
