Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing process does not return messages on user unknown
On 06/03/2015 12:33 AM, Camelia Botez wrote: Thank you very much - indeed I checked and all the settings for bound process are OK. I checked also the maillog file for that particular mailing list and I saw different values for status: Stat : Service unavailable Stat : Deferred There are several external relay servers with verify=FAIL Or Recipient address rejected: Greylisted How mailman gets this status values ( as hard in bounce process ) , should it send back error messages to the owner / sender . I'm sorry to disturb you with my questions but I'm very confused - how the mailing list gets back the errors and in what cases. Mailman gets bounces in two ways. 1) If Mailman gets an SMTP recipient refused response to a recipient during its SMTP transaction, this is logged in Mailman's 'smtp-failure' log and a bounce recorded if the list is processing bounces. 2) For the kinds of things you are seeing in your MTA log, Mailman has sent the message with envelope from LISTNAME-bounces@list.domain, or if VERPed, from LISTNAME-bounces+recipient_user=users.domain@list.domain. The MTA will send a DSN to that address and assuming it is deliverable, Mailman will receive it and record a bounce if the list is processing bounces. In either case, a recorded bounce is logged in Mailman's bounce log and scored. The DSN itself is discarded after processing unless it results in a disable and bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes in which case it is attached to the notice to the admin. Look at Mailman's 'bounce' log. If bounces are not being recorded, ensure that the list's Bounce processing - bounce_processing setting is Yes and that the LISTNAME-bounces address is deliverable (you should see the delivery of the DSN to Mailman in your MTA logs. Note that for messages which are 'Deferred', they have to time out in the MTA before Mailman receives an undeliverable notice. This typically takes up to 5 days depending on the MTA configuration. Greylisting is also a temporary failure in the MTA and normally the message will be retried and accepted upon retry. This is not a bounce. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing process does not return messages on user unknown
Thank you very much - indeed I checked and all the settings for bound process are OK. I checked also the maillog file for that particular mailing list and I saw different values for status: Stat : Service unavailable Stat : Deferred There are several external relay servers with verify=FAIL Or Recipient address rejected: Greylisted How mailman gets this status values ( as hard in bounce process ) , should it send back error messages to the owner / sender . I'm sorry to disturb you with my questions but I'm very confused - how the mailing list gets back the errors and in what cases. Again thank you -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+camelia.botez=weizmann.ac...@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:02 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing process does not return messages on user unknown On 06/02/2015 04:50 AM, Camelia Botez wrote: We run mailman-2.1.17 on rhel6 platform. I have a list containing some unknown users. When a messages is sent to this list , none of the administrators gets back a message of unknown user . The bounce does not send back the status of the message ( diferred , unknown user etc). How can I fix this? See the list's web admin Bounce processing page. Also see Mailman's 'bounce' log. Bounces are returned to Mailman. If the list's bounce_processing setting is No, they are ignored. If Yes, they are handled according to the remaining settings. List owners are not notified until a members bounce score reaches bounce_score_threshold and the member's delivery is disabled, and then only if bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes Beginning in 2.1.19, a list admin can request notification any time a member's score is incremented. These admin notices contain a copy of the triggering bounce. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/camelia.botez%40weizmann.ac.il -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing process does not return messages on user unknown
On 06/02/2015 04:50 AM, Camelia Botez wrote: We run mailman-2.1.17 on rhel6 platform. I have a list containing some unknown users. When a messages is sent to this list , none of the administrators gets back a message of unknown user . The bounce does not send back the status of the message ( diferred , unknown user etc). How can I fix this? See the list's web admin Bounce processing page. Also see Mailman's 'bounce' log. Bounces are returned to Mailman. If the list's bounce_processing setting is No, they are ignored. If Yes, they are handled according to the remaining settings. List owners are not notified until a members bounce score reaches bounce_score_threshold and the member's delivery is disabled, and then only if bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes Beginning in 2.1.19, a list admin can request notification any time a member's score is incremented. These admin notices contain a copy of the triggering bounce. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
