Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
Daevid Vincent wrote: No, I actually did search for my previous entry, as I could swear I had entered one, but couldn't find it. Honest Injun I looked via several key words and even tried to find via my 'username'. So I thought perhaps I THOUGHT I entered one, but it never actually got submitted or something (like as in CGI error or timeout or who knows)... Possibly you were searching only in bugs, not in feature requests. It is possible to search the entire mailman tracker by clicking advanced sext to the project (not the global) 'search' button, but the detailed 'browse' search only searches the current category. Sorry for the duplicate entry. It was not my intention. Understood. Thanks for the clarification. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
This is _exactly_ why I asked for a re-confirm subscription request. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1504 204group_id=103atid=100103 Which was just submitted as a bug and duplicates your RFE of a couple of weeks ago at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1495 305group_id=103atid=350103. It doesn't really help to re-submit what is really a feature request as a bug. It just clutters up the tracker and makes the task of fixing things seem more daunting than it really is. If you're just trying to ping us to see if we're paying attention, it would be much better to add a comment to your original request. No, I actually did search for my previous entry, as I could swear I had entered one, but couldn't find it. Honest Injun I looked via several key words and even tried to find via my 'username'. So I thought perhaps I THOUGHT I entered one, but it never actually got submitted or something (like as in CGI error or timeout or who knows)... Sorry for the duplicate entry. It was not my intention. D -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
Yeah, except the problem is that most servers just silently accept on behalf of that person. Ever get a bounce back from hotmail, AOL, or any other big ISP? NO. This is _exactly_ why I asked for a re-confirm subscription request. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1504204group_id=10 3atid=100103 :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Bogen Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:10 AM To: Mark Sapiro Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses On 6/8/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reviewing one of my lists today and recognize several email addresses for recipients who are long since moved, and whose addresses are likely dead. How does Mailman manage these? In accord with the settings on the list admin Bounce processing page. To be a bit more precise, the way this works is that Mailman goes ahead and sends messages to these addresses. If the bounce (that is, the remove server sends a message back saying that the original message was undeliverable), bounce processing takes over. In general, after some number of bounces occur (not on the same day) within some time period, the account will be disabled, and eventually deleted. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/daevid%40 daevid.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq 01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
Daevid Vincent wrote: Yeah, except the problem is that most servers just silently accept on behalf of that person. Ever get a bounce back from hotmail, AOL, or any other big ISP? NO. Actually, I see bounces from AOL all the time for lots of reasons ranging from non-existent user to we didn't like a URL in the body of your message. What they don't bounce is messages they accept and put in a 'spam' folder. This is _exactly_ why I asked for a re-confirm subscription request. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1504204group_id=103atid=100103 Which was just submitted as a bug and duplicates your RFE of a couple of weeks ago at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1495305group_id=103atid=350103. It doesn't really help to re-submit what is really a feature request as a bug. It just clutters up the tracker and makes the task of fixing things seem more daunting than it really is. If you're just trying to ping us to see if we're paying attention, it would be much better to add a comment to your original request. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
Are you serious, Daevid?? Ever get a bounce back from hotmail, AOL, or any other big ISP? NO. AOL = LOTS!!! PITA!! Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
On 6/8/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reviewing one of my lists today and recognize several email addresses for recipients who are long since moved, and whose addresses are likely dead. How does Mailman manage these? In accord with the settings on the list admin Bounce processing page. To be a bit more precise, the way this works is that Mailman goes ahead and sends messages to these addresses. If the bounce (that is, the remove server sends a message back saying that the original message was undeliverable), bounce processing takes over. In general, after some number of bounces occur (not on the same day) within some time period, the account will be disabled, and eventually deleted. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up dead addresses
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: Does Mailman recognize and somehow eliminate entries, addresses, which are dead or no long in use? Yes, if bounce processing is on for the list. I was reviewing one of my lists today and recognize several email addresses for recipients who are long since moved, and whose addresses are likely dead. How does Mailman manage these? In accord with the settings on the list admin Bounce processing page. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
