[Mailman-Users] integrating mm3 with postfix / lmtp

2017-10-25 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
Hello,

I have mm3 up and running via docker (courtesy of maxking/docker-mailman) but 
when i send an email to my test list, it bounces back claiming user unknown. it 
states:

<"lmtp:[172.19.199.2]:8024"@>: unknown user:
"lmtp:[172.19.199.2]:8024"

looking at the email source, it seems as though the message is trying to be 
delivered to:

Final-Recipient: rfc822; "lmtp:[172.19.199.2]:8024"@
Original-Recipient: rfc822;test123@

all of various alias transport maps are defined in postfix's main.cf. not sure 
where to go from here. does anyone have any clues?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating mm3 with postfix / lmtp

2017-10-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/25/2017 01:10 PM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have mm3 up and running via docker (courtesy of maxking/docker-mailman) ...


You also posted this to mailman-us...@mailman3.org which is the proper
place.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating mm3 with postfix / lmtp

2017-10-25 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
On October 25, 2017 6:30:15 PM EDT, Mark Sapiro  wrote:
>On 10/25/2017 01:10 PM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have mm3 up and running via docker (courtesy of
>maxking/docker-mailman) ...
>
>
>You also posted this to mailman-us...@mailman3.org which is the proper
>place.

Ok wasn't sure thanks. Just covering my bases. 
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[Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-25 Thread Terry .
Thanks for your excellent answers, Steve and Mark.


Mark, I might pass your generous offer to work with cPanel, on to the webhost 
(again), to be passed on to cPanel, once I've heard back from the webhost re 
the timing of when sender_verify was turned on (presumably through a cPanel 
update).  When I asked the webhost yesterday how long it's been turned on, the 
response was:

'Actually, the "Sender Verify" option is the default and recommended by 
cPanel, so I don't think it was touched by our support staff. I'm attaching the 
screenshot of this setting for your convenience.'

I won't attach the screen shot, but it describes the "Sender Verification" 
option as "Verify that the domain mail reports as it origin actually exists".  
(The grammar looks strange to my uneducated eyes - maybe that should read 
"Verify that the domain origin email address actually exists" or "Verify that 
the domain origin actually exists".)  The options are "On (default)" and "Off". 
 "On" is selected.


Jim, I don't know the answer to your question, but thanks for commenting.


Terry
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Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/24/2017 03:53 PM, Terry . wrote:
> 
> Mark, I might pass your generous offer to work with cPanel, on to the webhost 
> (again), to be passed on to cPanel ...


That would be good. Emphasize that I am the person who does all the
upstream maintenance of Mailman 2.1 and that I want to work with them to
resolve this issue.

Of course, the resolution is problematic, because I really think your
workaround is the correct solution.

Here's why.

Notifications to list -owner addresses are sent with envelope from the
site list -bounces address to avoid bounce loops that would occur if
they were sent with envelope from the list -bounces address if the
-owner address is actually bouncing (because it's not deliverable, not
because of sender verify).

In a normal (non-cPanel) installation this will result in the bounce
going to the site list owner which is reasonable.

If we fix cPanel's Exim config to understand that
mailman-bounces@your.domain is really the -bounces address for the site
list, those bounces will go to the site list owner which in the cPanel
case is often the web host who (with a few notable exceptions of which I
am aware) knows nothing about Mailman or your lists.

With your workaround, they go to you and you are in a better position to
deal with undeliverable owner addresses for lists in your domain.

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