Re: [MlMt] Feature request - highlighting related messages in a thread.

2014-06-03 Thread Thomas Eckhold

On 3 Jun 2014, at 22:54, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

One of the things that I really enjoyed about Mail.app was NOT putting 
things into Conversation view (or thread, if you prefer that term) 
but, instead, taking advantage of the highlighting of messages which 
are in the same thread (or related).


But if MailMate could highlight related messages to a thread, it would 
provide a great visual way to find things in some of my larger 
mailboxes hopefully swiftly.


Isn't that something where the Thread Arcs Layout could be handy? 
Highlighting messages could be a nice addition, though.


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Re: [MlMt] Feature request - highlighting related messages in a thread.

2014-06-03 Thread Gary Hull
I prefer reverse chronological order (even if that means threads are 
broken up). Highlighting thread messages would be nice, but the main 
thing is strict reverse chronological order. Is that available? Neither 
Thread no Correspondence seem to do this.


And MailMate's performance just isn't snappy enough to switch back and 
forth between views.


On 4 Jun 2014, at 5:54, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:


Hi,

One of the things that I really enjoyed about Mail.app was NOT putting 
things into Conversation view (or thread, if you prefer that term) 
but, instead, taking advantage of the highlighting of messages which 
are in the same thread (or related).


I don't know how impossible it'd be to add this to MailMate in the 
future, but, I'd find it a great toggle.  I don't really like thread 
views, and I simply have way too many messages to constantly flick 
between Layout modes too often.


But if MailMate could highlight related messages to a thread, it would 
provide a great visual way to find things in some of my larger 
mailboxes hopefully swiftly.


Cheers,
Scott
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[MlMt] Feature request - highlighting related messages in a thread.

2014-06-03 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Hi,

One of the things that I really enjoyed about Mail.app was NOT putting 
things into Conversation view (or thread, if you prefer that term) but, 
instead, taking advantage of the highlighting of messages which are in 
the same thread (or related).


I don't know how impossible it'd be to add this to MailMate in the 
future, but, I'd find it a great toggle.  I don't really like thread 
views, and I simply have way too many messages to constantly flick 
between Layout modes too often.


But if MailMate could highlight related messages to a thread, it would 
provide a great visual way to find things in some of my larger mailboxes 
hopefully swiftly.


Cheers,
Scott
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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Jun 2014, at 20:59, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

There is a test version available now (hold down ⌥ when clicking 
“Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane). The 
technical stuff: I've changed the scripts to use the default `ruby` 
install on the OS (`/usr/bin/ruby`). The scripts appear to work fine 
with `ruby 2.0` on OS X 10.9-10.10. The main problem is if new 
scripts or changes to existing scripts do not work with `ruby 1.8`.


MailMate 4214 is the latest version available—you have 4229.

The Check Now isn't quite checking right here, it would appear!


I had to pull the test version. The fix has broken the display of plain 
text messages on Mavericks for several users. It works for me though and 
I haven't yet figured out what makes it fail for other users, but I'm 
looking into it.


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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Hi Benny,


There is a test version available now (hold down ⌥ when clicking 
“Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane). The 
technical stuff: I've changed the scripts to use the default `ruby` 
install on the OS (`/usr/bin/ruby`). The scripts appear to work fine 
with `ruby 2.0` on OS X 10.9-10.10. The main problem is if new scripts 
or changes to existing scripts do not work with `ruby 1.8`.





MailMate 4214 is the latest version available—you have 4229.

The Check Now isn't quite checking right here, it would appear!

Cheers,
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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Pedro Lobo

On 3 Jun 2014, at 8:40, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 3 Jun 2014, at 9:31, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

1)  The wrapping issue only impacts the message viewer.  If I reply 
to a message, wrapping looks normal again in the compose window.


MailMate calls an external script to convert text from a canonical 
format (after decoding/deflowing/...) to HTML. The script is simple, 
but my suspicion is that it fails on OS X 10.10 for some reason.


Maybe because Ruby 1.8 has been removed:

/System/Library/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/1.8/usr/bin/ruby


2)  It only impacts non-HTML messages


Fits the above theory.

3)  Other UI changes actually look pretty nice inside of MailMate.  I 
liked the look!


Great! I do win a little bit by mostly using standard boring GUI 
components :-)


(But I guess the application icon looks very much out of place.)


You need to appeal to one of your designer users to create a snazzy 
looking icon ;)




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Cheers,
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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Jun 2014, at 9:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


[display problems and more with Yosemite]


With respect to the main problem, I can confirm that the problem is 
ruby. This also means that many bundles won't work. I'll look into it.


There is a test version available now (hold down ⌥ when clicking 
“Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane). The technical 
stuff: I've changed the scripts to use the default `ruby` install on the 
OS (`/usr/bin/ruby`). The scripts appear to work fine with `ruby 2.0` on 
OS X 10.9-10.10. The main problem is if new scripts or changes to 
existing scripts do not work with `ruby 1.8`.


This should make the, currently, 4 Yosemite users happy ;-) I can, by 
the way, tell that ~91% of the users are on Mavericks and ~5% are on 
Mountain Lion.


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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Jun 2014, at 9:48, Giovanni Lanzani wrote:

3)  Other UI changes actually look pretty nice inside of MailMate.  
I liked the look!


Great! I do win a little bit by mostly using standard boring GUI 
components :-)


(But I guess the application icon looks very much out of place.)


It already looked out of place on retina Macs :)


That's why I wrote “very much” ;-)

With respect to the main problem, I can confirm that the problem is 
ruby. This also means that many bundles won't work. I'll look into it.


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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Giovanni Lanzani


3)  Other UI changes actually look pretty nice inside of MailMate.  I 
liked the look!


Great! I do win a little bit by mostly using standard boring GUI 
components :-)


(But I guess the application icon looks very much out of place.)


It already looked out of place on retina Macs :)
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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Jun 2014, at 9:31, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

1)  The wrapping issue only impacts the message viewer.  If I reply to 
a message, wrapping looks normal again in the compose window.


MailMate calls an external script to convert text from a canonical 
format (after decoding/deflowing/...) to HTML. The script is simple, but 
my suspicion is that it fails on OS X 10.10 for some reason.


Maybe because Ruby 1.8 has been removed:

/System/Library/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/1.8/usr/bin/ruby


2)  It only impacts non-HTML messages


Fits the above theory.

3)  Other UI changes actually look pretty nice inside of MailMate.  I 
liked the look!


Great! I do win a little bit by mostly using standard boring GUI 
components :-)


(But I guess the application icon looks very much out of place.)

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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Hi,




That was quick :-)


My morning meeting was cancelled, I felt like taking a chance.  It's 
been .. awkward.



I'll contact you off list for some details to see if it's an easy fix. 
Otherwise it'll have to wait until I get around to installing Yosemite 
myself.



Great, got your note, will give it a shot tomorrow morning - not quite 
brave enough to upgrade this system at home as well.


I should also point out:

1)  The wrapping issue only impacts the message viewer.  If I reply to a 
message, wrapping looks normal again in the compose window.

2)  It only impacts non-HTML messages
3)  Other UI changes actually look pretty nice inside of MailMate.  I 
liked the look!


Scott

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Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

2014-06-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 2 Jun 2014, at 23:53, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

Just to let you know -- there are issues with MailMate on OS X 10.10 
(Yosemite).


That was quick :-)

Text wrapping in the content of messages seems to be broken, so, 
many/most messages appear as one long line.


Other functionality seems okay though, and I am sending this from 
MailMate, so, that's a plus.


I'll contact you off list for some details to see if it's an easy fix. 
Otherwise it'll have to wait until I get around to installing Yosemite 
myself.



Just a heads up!


Thanks!

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