Re: [MlMt] get/check mail manually ?

2015-01-19 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 20 Jan 2015, at 4:43, Gary Hull wrote:


On 15 Jan 2015, at 18:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 15 Jan 2015, at 1:25, Gary Hull wrote:


It would be nice to:

-- Have more and longer options for Synchronize Schedule, such as 
Daily (at which point it might be nice to be able to specify the 
time, since for every 10 minutes it doesn't really matter, but for 
daily, you may want it in the morning just before work or something. 
For Weekly, it returns to a state where time of day isn't important.


The “Syncronization Schedule” is primarily intended for being 
able to tell MailMate how many resources it should spend on keeping 
mailboxes up-to-date. For some users, it'll be enough to have the 
INBOX connected and the rest of the mailbox non-synchronized. Note 
that a mailbox is *always* synchronized when selected.


The longer delays you are asking for I guess is more inteneded to be 
used as some kind of “Do not disturb” feature. In that case you 
would also not want it to synchronize when selected.


Let me know if I'm wrong about this assumption.


Yes, I guess a Do Not Disturb feature is what I meant, but I suppose I 
could just set Displayed Count > No Count: The mail would be there, 
but I just wouldn't know about it.


That wouldn't be a great option for me since I like get an overview over 
what areas have unread content.


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Re: [MlMt] Connection error

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Jan 2015, at 7:56, David Green wrote:

2. It says "too many simultaneous connections" -- any other mail 
programs running against your account?


Here I can add that the limit is 
[15](https://support.google.com/mail/answer/97150?hl=en) for Gmail. 
MailMate, by default, uses at most 3.


But there has been problems in the past where Gmail counts more 
connections than actually used by MailMate. This happens if MailMate is 
unable to properly close existing connections before opening new ones. A 
bad network connection could be part of this.


I don't know exactly how Google enforces the restriction on the number 
of connections, but maybe it's a good idea to close MailMate for half an 
hour (or more) to make sure its count goes back to 0 (depending on the 
number of devices/clients you have). Also consider the possibility of 
other clients/scripts using Gmail connections.


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Re: [MlMt] Connection error

2015-01-19 Thread David Green

On 20 Jan 2015, at 0:48, Brett Terpstra wrote:

It's been like this for hours. Checked password, restarted MM, 
restarted
computer (all of which seem to have worked at various times in the 
past).

Any suggestions?


Just a couple simple ones (which you probably already thought of):

  1. Is this an application password? (i.e. have you been switched by 
Apple to two-factor authentication?)


  2. It says "too many simultaneous connections" -- any other mail 
programs running against your account?


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[MlMt] Connection error

2015-01-19 Thread Brett Terpstra
It's been like this for hours. Checked password, restarted MM, restarted
computer (all of which seem to have worked at various times in the past).
Any suggestions?
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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Harvey Leff
I purchased MailSteward, which AUTOMATICALLY updates a (now 10 GB) email 
database archive, called mymaildb, every evening.


MailSteward has a pretty good search engine of its own, and I am happy 
with this solution. I needed an archive so I could trim my imap 
accounts' messages to not exceed a data quota on the server.


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Re: [MlMt] get/check mail manually ?

2015-01-19 Thread Gary Hull

On 15 Jan 2015, at 18:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 15 Jan 2015, at 1:25, Gary Hull wrote:


It would be nice to:

-- Have more and longer options for Synchronize Schedule, such as 
Daily (at which point it might be nice to be able to specify the 
time, since for every 10 minutes it doesn't really matter, but for 
daily, you may want it in the morning just before work or something. 
For Weekly, it returns to a state where time of day isn't important.


The “Syncronization Schedule” is primarily intended for being able 
to tell MailMate how many resources it should spend on keeping 
mailboxes up-to-date. For some users, it'll be enough to have the 
INBOX connected and the rest of the mailbox non-synchronized. Note 
that a mailbox is *always* synchronized when selected.


The longer delays you are asking for I guess is more inteneded to be 
used as some kind of “Do not disturb” feature. In that case you 
would also not want it to synchronize when selected.


Let me know if I'm wrong about this assumption.


Yes, I guess a Do Not Disturb feature is what I meant, but I suppose I 
could just set Displayed Count > No Count: The mail would be there, but 
I just wouldn't know about it.

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1. Re: Mail archiving best practice (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
2. Re: keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?
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3. Re: Mail archiving best practice (Kai =?utf-8?q?Gro=C3=9Fjohann?=)
4. Re: keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?
(Max Andersen)
5. Re: Mail archiving best practice (Matthew Cawood)
6. Re: keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?
(Max Andersen)
7. Re: get/check mail manually ? (Gary Hull)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:16:43 +0100
From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" 
To: "MailMate Users" 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice
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On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:45, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:

> I'm use [eagleFiler](http://c-command.com/eaglefiler/) or/and  
> [FoxTrot](http://www.ctmdev.com/foxtrot/professional_search/index.html)

Inspired by the addition of DEVONThink, I also added an EagleFiler  
bundle. If you are running the 64 bit beta of MailMate then it should  
pop up automatically in the list of bundles in the Bundles preferences  
pane (it can take a few hours before it happens).

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Benny says he wants to fix something. Until then, may I propose another  
keybinding to focus the message list?

"Q" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mailboxesOutline");
"W" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
"E" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "messageView");

With this,

* `Q` focuses the list of mailboxes
* `W` focuses the list of messages
* `E` focuses the preview pane for the currently selected message

I know it's just a workaround. But maybe it's better than nothing.

Kai


On 19 Jan 2015, at 11:08, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I got this setup in my keybindings:
>
> "N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
> "P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";
>
> works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the  
> mouse to have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for  
> next and previous messages.
>
> Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:00:01 +0100
From: "Kai =?utf-8?q?Gro=C3=9Fjohann?=" 
To: "MailMate Users" 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice
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On that token, I've installed Dovecot, I'm running that on my MacBook,  
and I copy mails there for archival purposes. However, I'm not clear  
whether this means they are spotlight-searchable. (Probably not.)

Hm. Is there a Spotlight indexer for Dovecot-flavored Maildir?

Kai


On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:29, Matthew Cawood wrote:

> Any advice on best practice for archiving emails from MailMate?
>
> My preference is to archive in De

Re: [MlMt] keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?

2015-01-19 Thread Max Andersen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 23:01, Max Andersen wrote:

can a keybinding do mulitple things ? like select next mailbox and 
then do

the focus window ?


I tried this:

	"N" = ("selectNextMailbox:",  "", "makeFirstResponder:", 
"mainOutline");
"P" = ("selectPreviousMailbox:", "", "makeFirstResponder:", 
"mainOutline");	



but that does not seem to have any effect - just do the selectnext and 
prev. no change of focus ;/


/max

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Kai Großjohann 


wrote:

Benny says he wants to fix something. Until then, may I propose 
another

keybinding to focus the message list?

"Q" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mailboxesOutline");
"W" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
"E" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "messageView");

With this,

- Q focuses the list of mailboxes
- W focuses the list of messages
- E focuses the preview pane for the currently selected message

I know it's just a workaround. But maybe it's better than nothing.

Kai

On 19 Jan 2015, at 11:08, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Hi,

I got this setup in my keybindings:

"N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
"P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";

works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the 
mouse to
have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for next 
and

previous messages.

Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?

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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Matthew Cawood
Well that was quick! Works well, except that for some reason I can't 
open mail attachments in Devonthink (open the .eml file in Apple Mail, 
and the attachment is there, though).


As for configuring where the exported email goes in Devonthink: 
Devonthink pops up an HUD that allows you to select the location, or 
create a new folder.


I wonder if the coding you've done will now give Devonthink the hooks to 
import whole mailboxes from MailMate, as it can with Apple Mail?


Thanks for this. Wonderful service!

On 20 Jan 2015, at 2:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 19 Jan 2015, at 10:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:29, Matthew Cawood wrote:

My preference is to archive in DevonThink, which holds my email 
archives from the mid 2000s. But it seems that MailMate and 
Devonthink don't hook up,


I plan to add that too and I did start creating it. If I remember 
correctly I delayed it, because DevonThink needs the original email 
instead of the summary-oriented style used for the various GTD 
bundles. (I'll check up on the state of this bundle.)


Within a few hours you should see a “DEVONThink Pro” bundle in the 
Bundles preferences pane (MailMate checks for bundle updates every few 
hours). If you enable that then you should have a command for adding 
an email to DEVONThink. It uses the subject of the email for the file 
name and it also adds a URL to the record in order to easily go back 
to the email from DEVONThink (⌃⌘O). It does not allow configuring 
where to store it in DEVONThink though -- didn't quite figure out how 
that is done.


Note that this command can also be used in rules to automatically 
archive an email and perhaps delete it from MailMate. This can even 
happen automatically when an email reaches a certain age.


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Re: [MlMt] keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?

2015-01-19 Thread Max Andersen
can a keybinding do mulitple things ? like select next mailbox and then do
the focus window ?

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Kai Großjohann 
wrote:

> Benny says he wants to fix something. Until then, may I propose another
> keybinding to focus the message list?
>
> "Q" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mailboxesOutline");
> "W" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
> "E" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "messageView");
>
> With this,
>
>- Q focuses the list of mailboxes
>- W focuses the list of messages
>- E focuses the preview pane for the currently selected message
>
> I know it's just a workaround. But maybe it's better than nothing.
>
> Kai
>
> On 19 Jan 2015, at 11:08, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I got this setup in my keybindings:
>
> "N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
> "P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";
>
> works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the mouse to
> have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for next and
> previous messages.
>
> Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?
>
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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Kai Großjohann
On that token, I've installed Dovecot, I'm running that on my MacBook, 
and I copy mails there for archival purposes.  However, I'm not clear 
whether this means they are spotlight-searchable.  (Probably not.)


Hm.  Is there a Spotlight indexer for Dovecot-flavored Maildir?

Kai


On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:29, Matthew Cawood wrote:


Any advice on best practice for archiving emails from MailMate?

My preference is to archive in DevonThink, which holds my email 
archives from the mid 2000s. But it seems that MailMate and Devonthink 
don't hook up, so I'm looking for other robust options that are 
Spotlight searchable. Any advice appreciated.

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Re: [MlMt] keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?

2015-01-19 Thread Kai Großjohann
Benny says he wants to fix something.  Until then, may I propose another 
keybinding to focus the message list?


"Q" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mailboxesOutline");
"W" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
"E" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "messageView");

With this,

* `Q` focuses the list of mailboxes
* `W` focuses the list of messages
* `E` focuses the preview pane for the currently selected message

I know it's just a workaround.  But maybe it's better than nothing.

Kai


On 19 Jan 2015, at 11:08, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


Hi,

I got this setup in my keybindings:

"N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
"P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";

works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the 
mouse to have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for 
next and previous messages.


Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?

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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:45, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:

I'm use [eagleFiler](http://c-command.com/eaglefiler/) or/and 
[FoxTrot](http://www.ctmdev.com/foxtrot/professional_search/index.html)


Inspired by the addition of DEVONThink, I also added an EagleFiler 
bundle. If you are running the 64 bit beta of MailMate then it should 
pop up automatically in the list of bundles in the Bundles preferences 
pane (it can take a few hours before it happens).


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Re: [MlMt] Threading Confusion

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 16:53, Mike Brasch wrote:

But this will not work with Gmail addresses because Gmail deletes the 
mails sent back from the list server. A bad behavior I think. Inter 
alia because of this I went away from Gmail. In the meantime there is 
maybe an option for this?


This is one of the (many) non-standard parts of Gmail IMAP. It's not a 
configurable Gmail behavior and I don't think there is much MailMate can 
do about it.


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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 10:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:29, Matthew Cawood wrote:

My preference is to archive in DevonThink, which holds my email 
archives from the mid 2000s. But it seems that MailMate and 
Devonthink don't hook up,


I plan to add that too and I did start creating it. If I remember 
correctly I delayed it, because DevonThink needs the original email 
instead of the summary-oriented style used for the various GTD 
bundles. (I'll check up on the state of this bundle.)


Within a few hours you should see a “DEVONThink Pro” bundle in the 
Bundles preferences pane (MailMate checks for bundle updates every few 
hours). If you enable that then you should have a command for adding an 
email to DEVONThink. It uses the subject of the email for the file name 
and it also adds a URL to the record in order to easily go back to the 
email from DEVONThink (⌃⌘O). It does not allow configuring where to 
store it in DEVONThink though -- didn't quite figure out how that is 
done.


Note that this command can also be used in rules to automatically 
archive an email and perhaps delete it from MailMate. This can even 
happen automatically when an email reaches a certain age.


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Re: [MlMt] Threading Confusion

2015-01-19 Thread Mike Brasch

On 19 Jan 2015, at 16:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

If a competition existed for “trick of the month” I'd say you 
earned it for this one. Beautiful.


Thank you very much. :-)

But this will not work with Gmail addresses because Gmail deletes the 
mails sent back from the list server. A bad behavior I think. Inter alia 
because of this I went away from Gmail. In the meantime there is maybe 
an option for this?


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Re: [MlMt] Threading Confusion

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 14:58, Mike Brasch wrote:


Then, in the "Inbox+Send" smart folder, I use the condition

   

If I send a mail to a list, the sent mail appears in the Inbox+Send 
folder until the is "sent back" from the list server.


If a competition existed for “trick of the month” I'd say you earned 
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Re: [MlMt] Assigning coloured flags with rule

2015-01-19 Thread Alexandre Takacs

On 11 Jan 2015, at 11:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Colors are (2-7) red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, gray. In 
otherwords, number 4 above is what you need to do to generate a yellow 
flag.


(One weakness of MailMate is the lack of options for visually marking 
emails. Beyond the standard red flag, there isn't much that's ready 
to hand.)


On top of that it would be nice to be able to color the actual text of 
the mail from / subject list view


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Re: [MlMt] keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 11:08, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


I got this setup in my keybindings:

"N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
 "P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";

works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the 
mouse to have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for 
next and previous messages.


Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?


We had this one the other day. I promised to fix it by keeping focus in 
the same view before/after switching mailbox. (I haven't done that yet.)


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Re: [MlMt] Threading Confusion

2015-01-19 Thread Mike Brasch

Moin Moin!

On 18 Jan 2015, at 18:41, Marco Carmosino wrote:

The only issue remaining is mailing lists: there are two "starting" 
messages for the thread, one reflected by the mailing list and one 
from my Sent Messages folder, showing up in my "Threaded Inbox". 
MailMate hangs the thread off the copy of the initial message from my 
Sent Messages folder. And the same will happen with this message: two 
copies of my reply will show up in the threaded inbox, one from Sent 
Messages and one from the list.


"My" IMAP server sorts out all mailing list mails into folders (which is 
IMHO the correct instance for doing this). These folders are the sources 
of my smart folder "Mailinglists". I don't use the list-id because of 2 
mailing lists which unfortunatly don't use it. Otherwise I would do so. 
No conditions. Submailboxes with "Source -> Path". No rules.


Then, in the "Inbox+Send" smart folder, I use the condition

   

If I send a mail to a list, the sent mail appears in the Inbox+Send 
folder until the is "sent back" from the list server.



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Re: [MlMt] keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?

2015-01-19 Thread John Cooper
I'd set up keybindings to first set focus to the message list, and then 
move up and down in the mailbox. Something like this (not tested):


"n" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "messageView", "nextMessage:" );
"p" = ("makeFirstResponder:", "messageView", "previousMessage:" );

Does that do what you want?

Max Rydahl Andersen wrote (at 4:08 on 19 Jan 2015):


Hi,

I got this setup in my keybindings:

"N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
 "P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";

works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the 
mouse to have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for 
next and previous messages.


Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?

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[MlMt] keybinding for next mailbox + focus in message window ?

2015-01-19 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

Hi,

I got this setup in my keybindings:

"N" = "selectNextMailbox:";
"P" = "selectPreviousMailbox:";

works great, except that when I use these I still have to use the mouse 
to have the message list have focus before I can use 'n'/'p' for next 
and previous messages.


Anyway to have have the focus automatically go to the "right" place ?

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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Matthew Cawood
Devontink is also capable of indexing files in folders outside its 
database. I might look at that as a workaround to expose MailMate data 
to Spotlight.


On 19 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 19 Jan 2015, at 10:11, Matthew Cawood wrote:

Benny - email files imported to Devonthink appear as *.eml files on 
disk.


That is the same as MailMate. Since I haven't implemented a Spotlight 
importer I might be wrong, but having DevonThink installed could also 
have the effect of adding MailMate `.eml` files to the Spotlight 
index.


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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 10:11, Matthew Cawood wrote:

Benny - email files imported to Devonthink appear as *.eml files on 
disk.


That is the same as MailMate. Since I haven't implemented a Spotlight 
importer I might be wrong, but having DevonThink installed could also 
have the effect of adding MailMate `.eml` files to the Spotlight index.


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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Matthew Cawood
Benny - email files imported to Devonthink appear as *.eml files on 
disk. If you plan to add DevonThink linkages, I don't need any more 
advice - I'll wait for that. :)


On 19 Jan 2015, at 20:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:29, Matthew Cawood wrote:


Any advice on best practice for archiving emails from MailMate?

My preference is to archive in DevonThink, which holds my email 
archives from the mid 2000s. But it seems that MailMate and 
Devonthink don't hook up,


I plan to add that too and I did start creating it. If I remember 
correctly I delayed it, because DevonThink needs the original email 
instead of the summary-oriented style used for the various GTD 
bundles. (I'll check up on the state of this bundle.)


so I'm looking for other robust options that are Spotlight 
searchable.


What is the file extension used on disk for emails saved in 
DevonThink?



Any advice appreciated.


I'll leave that to others and focus on the above :-)

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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:57, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

I'd like to do this in a more automated fashion as well - I've 
returned to DevonThink pretty heavily lately and would like my mail 
there as well.


The issue is, and Benny will correct me if I'm wrong, that MailMate 
doesn't do mbox; it's IMAP only.  As such, you're really somewhat 
stuck putting it into a local archive.


I believe you can drag emails from MailMate to DevonThink, but better 
integration would of course be preferable.


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Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

2015-01-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Jan 2015, at 7:29, Matthew Cawood wrote:


Any advice on best practice for archiving emails from MailMate?

My preference is to archive in DevonThink, which holds my email 
archives from the mid 2000s. But it seems that MailMate and Devonthink 
don't hook up,


I plan to add that too and I did start creating it. If I remember 
correctly I delayed it, because DevonThink needs the original email 
instead of the summary-oriented style used for the various GTD bundles. 
(I'll check up on the state of this bundle.)



so I'm looking for other robust options that are Spotlight searchable.


What is the file extension used on disk for emails saved in DevonThink?


Any advice appreciated.


I'll leave that to others and focus on the above :-)

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