[MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my mail, 
and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected "None" for 
"Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the beep. Clues?


--Paul Hoffman
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Bill Cole

On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected "None" 
for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the beep. 
Clues?


The UI in "Counters" is a challenge...

There are 4 independent sets of settings there: one for each corner of 
the Dock icon a counter can appear in. Each has its own Sound option. 
You select which Counter you are dealing with by the unlabeled square of 
radio buttons on the left side, so even if a Counter isn't set to show 
on the dock icon, it is identified by where it would be if it was.

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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Hoffman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:00, Bill Cole wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected "None" 
for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the beep. 
Clues?


The UI in "Counters" is a challenge...

There are 4 independent sets of settings there: one for each corner of 
the Dock icon a counter can appear in. Each has its own Sound option. 
You select which Counter you are dealing with by the unlabeled square 
of radio buttons on the left side, so even if a Counter isn't set to 
show on the dock icon, it is identified by where it would be if it 
was.


Did that, still beeps. That is, when selecting the radio button in each 
of the four positions, "Sound" now shows "None". Or am I missing 
something more subtle?


--Paul Hoffman
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Muster Hans

On 27 Jul 2015, at 23:29, Paul Hoffman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:00, Bill Cole wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected 
"None" for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the 
beep. Clues?


The UI in "Counters" is a challenge...

There are 4 independent sets of settings there: one for each corner 
of the Dock icon a counter can appear in. Each has its own Sound 
option. You select which Counter you are dealing with by the 
unlabeled square of radio buttons on the left side, so even if a 
Counter isn't set to show on the dock icon, it is identified by where 
it would be if it was.


Did that, still beeps. That is, when selecting the radio button in 
each of the four positions, "Sound" now shows "None". Or am I missing 
something more subtle?


Hmm, mine's set to Glass, but I've unchecked Notifications on that 
screen.


To avoid disturbing my neighbours (and of course my own peace and quiet) 
I have all OS X alerts disabled via System Preferences -> Sound -> Sound 
Effects. Alert Volume slider all the way to the left and the 2 
checkboxes beneath unchecked.


Is this suitable for you?
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Hoffman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:47, Muster Hans wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 23:29, Paul Hoffman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:00, Bill Cole wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected 
"None" for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the 
beep. Clues?


The UI in "Counters" is a challenge...

There are 4 independent sets of settings there: one for each corner 
of the Dock icon a counter can appear in. Each has its own Sound 
option. You select which Counter you are dealing with by the 
unlabeled square of radio buttons on the left side, so even if a 
Counter isn't set to show on the dock icon, it is identified by 
where it would be if it was.


Did that, still beeps. That is, when selecting the radio button in 
each of the four positions, "Sound" now shows "None". Or am I missing 
something more subtle?


Hmm, mine's set to Glass, but I've unchecked Notifications on that 
screen.


I have unchecked Notifications for all four locations of the radio 
button as well.


To avoid disturbing my neighbours (and of course my own peace and 
quiet) I have all OS X alerts disabled via System Preferences -> Sound 
-> Sound Effects. Alert Volume slider all the way to the left and the 
2 checkboxes beneath unchecked.


Is this suitable for you?


No, because the notifications that I have for other apps are fine. They 
don't go off regularly every 5-10 minutes. I just want to silence the 
MailMate "I just checked your mail again" notifications only.


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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Muster Hans

On 27 Jul 2015, at 23:59, Paul Hoffman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:47, Muster Hans wrote:

I have unchecked Notifications for all four locations of the radio 
button as well.


To avoid disturbing my neighbours (and of course my own peace and 
quiet) I have all OS X alerts disabled via System Preferences -> 
Sound -> Sound Effects. Alert Volume slider all the way to the left 
and the 2 checkboxes beneath unchecked.


Is this suitable for you?


No, because the notifications that I have for other apps are fine. 
They don't go off regularly every 5-10 minutes. I just want to silence 
the MailMate "I just checked your mail again" notifications only.


One for Benny: Is it possible to put your own custom sounds into 
MailMate?


I've got a 'silence.aif' file here which I created for someone to use as 
a ringtone for unwanted calls on his iPhone.


If it's not the right format I can probably convert it to whatever is 
needed. It's 1 second long.


www.sture.ch/downloads/silence.aif
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Muster Hans

On 28 Jul 2015, at 0:13, Muster Hans wrote:


I've got a 'silence.aif' file here which I created for someone to use 
as a ringtone for unwanted calls on his iPhone.


If it's not the right format I can probably convert it to whatever is 
needed. It's 1 second long.


www.sture.ch/downloads/silence.aif


I forgot to say - to download that:

curl -O  www.sture.ch/downloads/silence.aif
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Billy Youdelman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:59, Paul Hoffman wrote:

No, because the notifications that I have for other apps are fine. 
They don't go off regularly every 5-10 minutes. I just want to silence 
the MailMate "I just checked your mail again" notifications only.


In the Mailbox drop down menu (in the menu bar at the top of the 
screen), what do you see for Synchronization Schedule?  I'm curious 
because you're saying you get an alert sound every 5-10 minutes, and 
those are choices for this parameter.  Mine says Connected, which I 
presume means using the IMAP Idle function to get new mail.


You have to look with input focus on the Viewer Window to see which 
option is checked.


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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Billy Youdelman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 15:13, Muster Hans asked:

One for Benny: Is it possible to put your own custom sounds into 
MailMate?


You can copy an AIFF sound file into /System/Library/Sounds and then 
select it in MailMate.


At least for now.. OS 10.11 will make this a bit difficult, due to 
protecting the System dir...


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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Hoffman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 15:19, Billy Youdelman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:59, Paul Hoffman wrote:

No, because the notifications that I have for other apps are fine. 
They don't go off regularly every 5-10 minutes. I just want to 
silence the MailMate "I just checked your mail again" notifications 
only.


In the Mailbox drop down menu (in the menu bar at the top of the 
screen), what do you see for Synchronization Schedule?


I have multiple mailboxes, some are set for 5 mins, some for 10 mins, 
some for 1 hour.


I'm curious because you're saying you get an alert sound every 5-10 
minutes, and those are choices for this parameter.


Exactly right.

Mine says Connected, which I presume means using the IMAP Idle 
function to get new mail.


You have to look with input focus on the Viewer Window to see which 
option is checked.


"Connected" is greyed out for me for each of my mailboxes.

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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Bill Cole

On 27 Jul 2015, at 17:29, Paul Hoffman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:00, Bill Cole wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 14:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected 
"None" for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the 
beep. Clues?


The UI in "Counters" is a challenge...

There are 4 independent sets of settings there: one for each corner 
of the Dock icon a counter can appear in. Each has its own Sound 
option. You select which Counter you are dealing with by the 
unlabeled square of radio buttons on the left side, so even if a 
Counter isn't set to show on the dock icon, it is identified by where 
it would be if it was.


Did that, still beeps. That is, when selecting the radio button in 
each of the four positions, "Sound" now shows "None". Or am I missing 
something more subtle?


No, I'm just apparently wrong.

Never let that stop me though... How about the MailMate settings in the 
Notifications pane of System Preferences?

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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Hoffman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 15:54, Bill Cole wrote:

Never let that stop me though... How about the MailMate settings in 
the Notifications pane of System Preferences?


MailMate is not listed there, at least on my system.

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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Randall Meadows

On 27 Jul 2015, at 17:04, Paul Hoffman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 15:54, Bill Cole wrote:

Never let that stop me though... How about the MailMate settings in 
the Notifications pane of System Preferences?


MailMate is not listed there, at least on my system.


Ditto, OS X 10.10.4 (14E46)
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 27 Jul 2015, at 20:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected "None" 
for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the beep. 
Clues?


Others already told you about the 4 counters. The other possibilities 
are that you have manually set up a rule to play a sound or that you use 
SpamSieve which has its own sound (see its Preferences). Maybe that 
helps?


--
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 28 Jul 2015, at 0:29, Billy Youdelman wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 15:13, Muster Hans asked:

One for Benny: Is it possible to put your own custom sounds into 
MailMate?


You can copy an AIFF sound file into /System/Library/Sounds and then 
select it in MailMate.


At least for now.. OS 10.11 will make this a bit difficult, due to 
protecting the System dir...


It's probably better to use `~/Library/Sounds/`.

--
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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Allie Martin
On 27 Jul 2015, at 18:13, Randall Meadows wrote:

> MailMate is not listed there, at least on my system.
>
>
> Ditto, OS X 10.10.4 (14E46)

It's listed there for me.

OS X 10.10.4

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Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Hoffman

On 27 Jul 2015, at 16:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 27 Jul 2015, at 20:16, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Greetings. I really dislike the frog-beep when MailMate checks my 
mail, and it disturbs those around me. I have already selected "None" 
for "Sound" in Preferences -> Counters, but I still hear the beep. 
Clues?


Others already told you about the 4 counters. The other possibilities 
are that you have manually set up a rule to play a sound or that you 
use SpamSieve which has its own sound (see its Preferences). Maybe 
that helps?


Blarg! It was SpamSieve's default settings. Thanks!

--Paul Hoffman
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Re: [MlMt] Sync Problems with IMAP Server

2015-07-27 Thread Johnw @ gmail
Thanks Allie,

That was the issue. MailMate caching the messages. After leaving MailMate alone 
for a day or so (I am on the end of a slow connection) MailMate is now working 
as I expected, with none of the spinning pinwheel behaviour.

I'll give it another couple of days then upgrade from Trial to Buy.

Thanks for the responses.
John.

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> On 26 Jul 2015, at 11:33 am, Allie Martin  wrote:
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>> On 25 Jul 2015, at 12:16, John Wright wrote:
>> 
>> Is it normal for MailMate to spend all it’s time syncing with the IMAP mail 
>> server?
> 
> Initially, this can be the case since MailMate caches the entire mailbox 
> contents locally. This makes it a lot more responsive when working with old 
> mail and absolute dynamite with searches and the use of virtual folders with 
> interesting display criteria.
> 
> I initially left MailMate syncing for at least an hour before I actually 
> started using it.
> 
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