Re: [MlMt] Google apps web prompts

2015-11-03 Thread Mailmate
I ran into this too. It turns out that Google limits you to 10 (TEN) 
simultaneous logins. I have about 30+ gmail accounts (multiple business, 
etc. etc.) but was only using about 15 with Mailmate. The limit forced 
me to rethink how I was doing things (no more throwing mud against the 
wall) and now all is well in the world again (at least my world).


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On 3 Nov 2015, at 12:54, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com 
|MailMate Freron Software/RER>Vendor>Software| wrote:



On 3 Nov 2015, at 19:42, Alexandre Takacs wrote:

I'm sure that I missed something somewhere but why is MM (5164) 
throwing all kinds of web signup dialogs for google accounts (both 
google apps and gmail) ?


This is the main thing I'm testing in the beta released today. I've 
switched Google (and Outlook) accounts to use OAuth2 authentication by 
default. This means that the user is asked to log in to their Google 
account and allow MailMate to access their emails (and only that). 
This enables MailMate to no longer store the account password.


I don't really have a choice here. Google is pushing for the adoption 
of OAuth2. When using other authentication methods then users are 
often rejected and then presented with various warnings about MailMate 
not being a secure email client (which I find a bit offensive, but 
that is a different story).


Note that the exact behavior appears to depend on how long the Google 
account has existed and whether it has been accessed via IMAP in the 
past. I think new Gmail accounts are rejected by default if not using 
OAuth2.


If it's not working for you then you can disable OAuth2 in the IMAP 
account settings window. (And then I'll contact you for further 
debugging when I have time.)


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Re: [MlMt] Google apps web prompts

2015-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Nov 2015, at 19:42, Alexandre Takacs wrote:

I'm sure that I missed something somewhere but why is MM (5164) 
throwing all kinds of web signup dialogs for google accounts (both 
google apps and gmail) ?


This is the main thing I'm testing in the beta released today. I've 
switched Google (and Outlook) accounts to use OAuth2 authentication by 
default. This means that the user is asked to log in to their Google 
account and allow MailMate to access their emails (and only that). This 
enables MailMate to no longer store the account password.


I don't really have a choice here. Google is pushing for the adoption of 
OAuth2. When using other authentication methods then users are often 
rejected and then presented with various warnings about MailMate not 
being a secure email client (which I find a bit offensive, but that is a 
different story).


Note that the exact behavior appears to depend on how long the Google 
account has existed and whether it has been accessed via IMAP in the 
past. I think new Gmail accounts are rejected by default if not using 
OAuth2.


If it's not working for you then you can disable OAuth2 in the IMAP 
account settings window. (And then I'll contact you for further 
debugging when I have time.)


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[MlMt] Google apps web prompts

2015-11-03 Thread Alexandre Takacs

Hi

I'm sure that I missed something somewhere but why is MM (5164) throwing 
all kinds of web signup dialogs for google accounts (both google apps 
and gmail) ?



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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.9.3 (5164) Release Notes?

2015-11-03 Thread Muster Hans

On 3 Nov 2015, at 18:40, Billy Youdelman wrote:

In the past, installing an updated copy of MailMate displayed the 
release notes.  It was also possible to read them via the Help menu.  
Both of these are missing in today's Version 1.9.3 (5164), although 
ReleaseNotes.html is still present in the Resources folder of 
MailMate.app.


That worked for me.  I could see the Release Notes as soon as the newly 
installed version of MailMate relaunched.


The window was however positioned behind the main MailMate window, 
peeking out at one side.  Maybe I was just lucky with the positioning.  
Did you look at the Window menu?

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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.9.3 (5164) Release Notes?

2015-11-03 Thread Billy Youdelman

On 3 Nov 2015, at 10:45, Thomas Eckhold wrote, quoting me:

In the past, installing an updated copy of MailMate displayed the 
release notes.


That was the case for me.


After some use of MailMate, the Release Notes window appeared..  I did
look earlier, as sometimes they were hidden behind the Viewer Window,
and didn't find them.


It was also possible to read them via the Help menu.


Works for me.


Here's what I see in the Help Menu -

![](cid:8ECAF809-F257-4579-846D-640E862C9585@MIX.ORG "From 
Clipboard.jpg")


After taking this screen shot, and having my note to the list held due 
to its size, I went to take a smaller on and noticed the Release Notes 
menu item had appeared here too (at the bottom of the list)...


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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.9.3 (5164) Release Notes?

2015-11-03 Thread Thomas Eckhold



On 3 Nov 2015, at 18:40, Billy Youdelman wrote:

In the past, installing an updated copy of MailMate displayed the 
release notes.


That was the case for me.


It was also possible to read them via the Help menu.


Works for me.

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[MlMt] Version 1.9.3 (5164) Release Notes?

2015-11-03 Thread Billy Youdelman
In the past, installing an updated copy of MailMate displayed the 
release notes.  It was also possible to read them via the Help menu.  
Both of these are missing in today's Version 1.9.3 (5164), although 
ReleaseNotes.html is still present in the Resources folder of 
MailMate.app.


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Re: [MlMt] Can't seem to send via google apps anymore

2015-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 3 Nov 2015, at 11:01, Alexandre Takacs wrote:

> Out of curiosity is the TCP stack used by MM IPv6 able ?

No, the network code is (unfortunately) still based on OpenSSL.

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Re: [MlMt] Can't seem to send via google apps anymore

2015-11-03 Thread Alexandre Takacs

Interestingly:

AGTMBP13:~ alex$ telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
Trying 2a00:1450:400c:c05::6d...

Is this a MM issue or (more likely ?) a networking issue with my mac 
(which otherwise is working fine) ?


It looks like you are having a local problem:


Thanks - for some reason the ISP modem / router decided to only resolve 
to IPV6... Fixed after a reboot.


Out of curiosity is the TCP stack used by MM IPv6 able ?



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Re: [MlMt] Can't seem to send via google apps anymore

2015-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 3 Nov 2015, at 10:09, Alexandre Takacs wrote:


Interestingly:

AGTMBP13:~ alex$ telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
Trying 2a00:1450:400c:c05::6d...

Is this a MM issue or (more likely ?) a networking issue with my mac 
(which otherwise is working fine) ?


It looks like you are having a local problem:

> telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
Trying 74.125.136.108...
Connected to gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP g66sm22457751wmd.1 - gsmtp

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[MlMt] Can't seem to send via google apps anymore

2015-11-03 Thread Alexandre Takacs

Hello

For some reason I can't seem to be able to send via google apps anymore

09:05:25 Error: Time limit (16s) reached while trying to write data 
(smtp.gmail.com)
09:05:25 Error: Failed while trying to connect to “smtp.gmail.com” 
on socket 21.

09:05:25 Error code: 7
09:05:25 New timeout values (8/8): 24/24
09:05:25 Failed action (0). Reset observed read/write timeouts: 12/12

09:05:25 Handling reply
09:05:25 Sending request (7)
09:05:25 Handling request
09:05:25 Clearing connection to smtp.gmail.com
09:05:26 Ready to run action
09:05:26 Clearing connection to smtp.gmail.com
09:05:26 Trying to connect to smtp.gmail.com on port 587

Interestingly:

AGTMBP13:~ alex$ telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
Trying 2a00:1450:400c:c05::6d...

Is this a MM issue or (more likely ?) a networking issue with my mac 
(which otherwise is working fine) ?


Best regards


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