[MlMt] Custom Key Binding for File -> Synchronize -> All Sources

2016-02-11 Thread D Yates
Does anybody know a way to create a custom key binding to File -> 
Synchronize -> All Sources?


I looked at http://manual.mailmate-app.com/key_binding_selectors, but 
could not find anything that looked appropriate.


I have switched all my mailboxes to synchronise once per hour, that way 
I am less likely to be distracted when new mail arrives. At times, I am 
expecting an email and wish to synchronise manually. I can do this via 
File -> Synchronize -> All Sources, but would really like a keyboard 
shortcut. Any ideas?


Many thanks,

Derek Yates
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[MlMt] Help for a command : )

2016-02-11 Thread Ale Muñoz

Hi there,

I'd like to build a command for MailMate, have been taking a look at 
what's there, but haven't been able to crack this so far. Any pointers 
will be much appreciated.


Here's what I want to do:

- Take the subject from the selected email
- Extract some information from it using a RegExp
- Search the current mailbox for all emails that contain that RegExp and 
delete them


Any ideas? Thanks in advance! : )

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Re: [MlMt] Install MM system wide

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Feb 2016, at 7:59, Marc ARC wrote:


A number of our Mac’s are used by different users.

These mac’s have been setup with the appropriate user-accounts and 
for each user his own MM preference; which is working fine.


The problem we are running into is that we have to install MM in each 
user because if we install MM in the shared Applications only the user 
that installed MM can use it.


Wa already rewrote the acces privileges to “everybody” ( you have 
to do this for the app and it’s contents ) but after an update the 
problem is there again.


Anybody any idea how we could solve this ?


The only workaround is probably to automate the rewriting of the access 
privileges. It's a (very old) bug that this doesn't “just work”.


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Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote:

When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it 
disappear from the destination folder after a very short time.
The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t rescue 
it any more.


That sounds really bad!


I’m using the Yandex imap server.
Any suggestion?


I can see you are on the latest test version which means it's not a 
fixed issue (I recall a recent problem with Yandex).


If you can reproduce it then you can create some logs for me like this:

* Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0).
* Trigger the issue including the disappearance of the email.
* Use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs”.

Then I'll look for any suspicious server interactions.

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Re: [MlMt] How I deal with email using MailMate

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 10 Feb 2016, at 21:41, Patrik Fältström wrote:

I just blogged about how I use MailMate and thought maybe this can 
interest some of you as many of you have sort of tried to understand 
what I am doing... ;-)


https://stupid.domain.name/node/1895

It also, I hope, between the line explain why I so much trust and like 
MailMate.


Thanks for that. One comment: It might be easier to tag recipients you 
want to use in your rules, e.g., tag them “Trusted” (if that makes 
sense). That would allow you to make conditions like:


Recipient ▸ Address “is in” [Tagged ▸ Trusted] From ▸ Address

(You are not really tagging individuals, you are just tagging a 
representative message from each individual. If that message is deleted 
then it'll also remove the individual from the mailbox.)


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Re: [MlMt] Custom Key Binding for File -> Synchronize -> All Sources

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:52, D Yates wrote:

Does anybody know a way to create a custom key binding to File -> 
Synchronize -> All Sources?


I looked at http://manual.mailmate-app.com/key_binding_selectors, but 
could not find anything that looked appropriate.


I have switched all my mailboxes to synchronise once per hour, that 
way I am less likely to be distracted when new mail arrives.


Ok, my first comment was going to be that you should always be receiving 
INBOX messages immediately (since most servers support IMAP IDLE).


At times, I am expecting an email and wish to synchronise manually. I 
can do this via File -> Synchronize -> All Sources, but would really 
like a keyboard shortcut. Any ideas?


I'm afraid there is no way to do this. I guess I could add 
`synchronizeAllSources:` or something like that...


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Re: [MlMt] another travel, another need to restart mailmate ;)

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Feb 2016, at 23:20, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Been on a new flight/travel with no network connection and sent out 
20+ messages that was in outbound. When I connected only a subset of 
these messages would send on their own. Another part was fine when I 
right click and press "Send Now" and then 10 or so just beeped when I 
did that.


Restart of Mailmate got them all to send out.


Did you notice any pattern, e.g., problematic messages were all using 
the same SMTP account?


Would be great not having to do that - but at least I now seem to have 
a consistent workaround to fix the issue.


I think I should travel more just to be able to track down this bug ;)

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Re: [MlMt] What takes time at startup?

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Feb 2016, at 14:46, Philip Paeps wrote:

Aside: is there a way to flip the "hold down ⌥ to search in the 
current mailbox" to "hold down ⌥ to search in all mailboxes"?


For the toolbar search field you can set a default mailbox in the search 
menu. There is a special value named “Current Mailbox” which then 
also reverts the use of ⌥ when using the toolbar search field.


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Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Feb 2016, at 15:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote:

When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it 
disappear from the destination folder after a very short time.
The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t rescue 
it any more.


If you can reproduce it then you can create some logs for me like 
this:


Thanks for the logs. They are a bit confusing since it seems you both 
archived a message in your INBOX and in MlMt. The latter appeared to 
work.


Here is the INBOX move:

15:37:15 C: J57 UID MOVE 39756 Archive
15:37:15 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39756 32352]
15:37:15 S: J57 OK UID MOVE Completed.

That appears to be fine, but I see no evidence of UID 32352 actually 
being in Archive, but this might be a timing issue.


Try again and this time:

* Make sure you only do a single move from INBOX to Archive.
* After moving, wait 1 minute.
* Finally, select Archive and explicitly use “Mailbox ▸ 
Synchronize”.


Then send the server logs like before.

(I see no signs of MailMate deleting anything.)

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Re: [MlMt] Custom Key Binding for File -> Synchronize -> All Sources

2016-02-11 Thread Randall Meadows

On 11 Feb 2016, at 7:11, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:52, D Yates wrote:

Does anybody know a way to create a custom key binding to File -> 
Synchronize -> All Sources?


I looked at http://manual.mailmate-app.com/key_binding_selectors, but 
could not find anything that looked appropriate.


I have switched all my mailboxes to synchronise once per hour, that 
way I am less likely to be distracted when new mail arrives.


Ok, my first comment was going to be that you should always be 
receiving INBOX messages immediately (since most servers support IMAP 
IDLE).


At times, I am expecting an email and wish to synchronise manually. I 
can do this via File -> Synchronize -> All Sources, but would really 
like a keyboard shortcut. Any ideas?


I'm afraid there is no way to do this. I guess I could add 
`synchronizeAllSources:` or something like that...


You could use the built-in System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > 
App Shortcuts to add a hotkey to that menu item.
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Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Feb 2016, at 16:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote:

When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it 
disappear from the destination folder after a very short time.
The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t 
rescue it any more.


Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the 
important part:


15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive
15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355]
15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed.
...
15:57:26 C: K35 NOOP
15:57:26 S: K35 OK NOOP Completed.
...
15:57:26 C: K36 UID STORE 39761 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
15:57:26 S: K36 OK UID STORE Completed.
15:57:26 C: K37 UID EXPUNGE 39761
15:57:26 S: * 2 EXPUNGE
15:57:26 S: K37 OK UID EXPUNGE Completed.

In plain English:

* MailMate tells the server to move the message and this succeeds, but 
apparently the message is not deleted from “Archive”. There should 
have been an EXPUNGE reply as described 
[here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851).
* Then MailMate sends a NOOP (dummy command) in an attempt to trigger 
the server to tell MailMate that it has expunged the message.

* Finally, MailMate deletes the message itself (from the INBOX).

Now, the message should still exist in Archive since it was successfully 
moved, but I think the deletion in INBOX triggers it to be deleted in 
both locations.


It's a serious server bug and you should inform Yandex. I'm afraid it's 
not obvious how to work around it without making it very inefficient for 
other servers. Since the side-effect of the bug is serious then I'll 
insert an explicit check for `imap.yandex.ru` to disable the use of UID 
MOVE. I'll also introduce a way to disable the use of UID MOVE 
completely:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmNeverUseIMAPMOVE -bool YES

Let me know if Yandex tells you they fixed the bug (wishful 
thinking...).


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Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem

2016-02-11 Thread Roberto Thiella

On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 11 Feb 2016, at 16:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote:

When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it 
disappear from the destination folder after a very short time.
The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t 
rescue it any more.


Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the 
important part:


15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive
15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355]
15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed.
...
15:57:26 C: K35 NOOP
15:57:26 S: K35 OK NOOP Completed.
...
15:57:26 C: K36 UID STORE 39761 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
15:57:26 S: K36 OK UID STORE Completed.
15:57:26 C: K37 UID EXPUNGE 39761
15:57:26 S: * 2 EXPUNGE
15:57:26 S: K37 OK UID EXPUNGE Completed.

In plain English:

* MailMate tells the server to move the message and this succeeds, but 
apparently the message is not deleted from “Archive”. There should 
have been an EXPUNGE reply as described 
[here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851).
* Then MailMate sends a NOOP (dummy command) in an attempt to trigger 
the server to tell MailMate that it has expunged the message.

* Finally, MailMate deletes the message itself (from the INBOX).

Now, the message should still exist in Archive since it was 
successfully moved, but I think the deletion in INBOX triggers it to 
be deleted in both locations.


It's a serious server bug and you should inform Yandex. I'm afraid 
it's not obvious how to work around it without making it very 
inefficient for other servers. Since the side-effect of the bug is 
serious then I'll insert an explicit check for `imap.yandex.ru` to 
disable the use of UID MOVE. I'll also introduce a way to disable the 
use of UID MOVE completely:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmNeverUseIMAPMOVE -bool YES

Let me know if Yandex tells you they fixed the bug (wishful 
thinking...).


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I have to tell you that if I use Mail instead of MailMate there is not 
problem at all.

All is working fine.
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Re: [MlMt] How I deal with email using MailMate

2016-02-11 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
That's a great tip. Until now I used a special folder. 

Using tags is more awesome. Thanks. 

/max
http://about.me/maxandersen


> On 11 Feb 2016, at 15:07, Benny Kjær Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> On 10 Feb 2016, at 21:41, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> 
> I just blogged about how I use MailMate and thought maybe this can interest 
> some of you as many of you have sort of tried to understand what I am 
> doing... ;-)
> 
> https://stupid.domain.name/node/1895
> 
> It also, I hope, between the line explain why I so much trust and like 
> MailMate.
> 
> Thanks for that. One comment: It might be easier to tag recipients you want 
> to use in your rules, e.g., tag them “Trusted” (if that makes sense). That 
> would allow you to make conditions like:
> 
> Recipient ▸ Address “is in” [Tagged ▸ Trusted] From ▸ Address
> (You are not really tagging individuals, you are just tagging a 
> representative message from each individual. If that message is deleted then 
> it'll also remove the individual from the mailbox.)
> 
> Just an idea.
> 
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[MlMt] Issue with message display using r5221

2016-02-11 Thread Steve Mayer

Benny,

  Sometime with the last two builds or so, I'm starting to see some 
messages displayed with strange formatting.  Responding to the message 
puts the formatting in a correct state.


 Please see this link for an example of what I'm seeing:  
https://www.evernote.com/l/AAFEieumcbNJc7XqzXpmsTmoJFdDH6ymKZ4



Any ideas?

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Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:35, Roberto Thiella wrote:


On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the 
important part:


15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive
15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355]
15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed.
been an EXPUNGE reply as described 
[here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851).


I have to tell you that if I use Mail instead of MailMate there is not 
problem at all.

All is working fine.


This just means that either Apple Mail does not use UID MOVE or that 
Apple Mail doesn't care whether or not the message is deleted in the 
original mailbox. It would not make sense to make MailMate work with a 
clearly buggy yandex server by making MailMate primitive and/or buggy.


But as noted I've made an explicit test on the yandex hostname (in order 
to disable UID MOVE) since I don't expect them to fix the bug. I do 
think that anyone using the yandex IMAP server make sure they have a 
separate backup of their emails. Bugs in something as simple as the 
above is not a good sign...


A test version is available in a few minutes: Hold down ⌥ when 
clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane 
(r5222).


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Re: [MlMt] Issue with message display using r5221

2016-02-11 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Feb 2016, at 20:43, Steve Mayer wrote:

Please see this link for an example of what I'm seeing:  
https://www.evernote.com/l/AAFEieumcbNJc7XqzXpmsTmoJFdDH6ymKZ4


Any ideas?


This looks like what happens when MailMate fails to run one of its 
external scripts to generate the HTML to be displayed in the message 
view. I don't have any other reports about that, but you might just be 
the first.


Try launching from a Terminal window to see if there are any error 
messages when you display these messages:


/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate

Also try to see if the latest public release works: 
https://download.mailmate-app.com/


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Re: [MlMt] Issue with message display using r5221

2016-02-11 Thread Sherif Soliman

On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:32, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 11 Feb 2016, at 20:43, Steve Mayer wrote:

Please see this link for an example of what I'm seeing:  
https://www.evernote.com/l/AAFEieumcbNJc7XqzXpmsTmoJFdDH6ymKZ4


Any ideas?


This looks like what happens when MailMate fails to run one of its 
external scripts to generate the HTML to be displayed in the message 
view. I don't have any other reports about that, but you might just be 
the first.


Try launching from a Terminal window to see if there are any error 
messages when you display these messages:


/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate

Also try to see if the latest public release works: 
https://download.mailmate-app.com/




I wonder if this is the same or related issue that I reported a while 
ago:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05002.html

Which still occurs. I think it occurs only when in a layout that doesn't 
show message preview and in which I open messages in a new window. It's 
not quite the same, but is similar in that line endings get eaten or 
mangled.


I tried launching MailMate from the terminal back then - and now - and 
didn't see any errors.


Sherif
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Re: [MlMt] Issue with message display using r5221

2016-02-11 Thread Steve Mayer
Oddly enough a restart of MailMate fixed the issue.  Saw no errors when 
accessing the message, but noticed the message was now formatted 
properly.  Restarted MailMate (launched from the icon) and all is still 
working properly now.


Sorry for the false alarm.

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On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:44, Sherif Soliman wrote:


On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:32, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 11 Feb 2016, at 20:43, Steve Mayer wrote:

Please see this link for an example of what I'm seeing:  
https://www.evernote.com/l/AAFEieumcbNJc7XqzXpmsTmoJFdDH6ymKZ4


Any ideas?


This looks like what happens when MailMate fails to run one of its 
external scripts to generate the HTML to be displayed in the message 
view. I don't have any other reports about that, but you might just 
be the first.


Try launching from a Terminal window to see if there are any error 
messages when you display these messages:


/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate

Also try to see if the latest public release works: 
https://download.mailmate-app.com/




I wonder if this is the same or related issue that I reported a while 
ago:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg05002.html

Which still occurs. I think it occurs only when in a layout that 
doesn't show message preview and in which I open messages in a new 
window. It's not quite the same, but is similar in that line endings 
get eaten or mangled.


I tried launching MailMate from the terminal back then - and now - and 
didn't see any errors.


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Re: [MlMt] choice of mailserver on osx

2016-02-11 Thread Marc ARC

Oliver,

I didn’t think of that, due to previous experiences that with every 
OS-change, Apple also changes the server applications.

This makes upgrading quite difficult.

But it could be a good idea

Thanks for the feedback.

Marc



On 10 Feb 2016, at 16:41, Oliver Giessler wrote:

Marc, why don´t you just use OS X Server from Apple? It has what you 
need and costs only small change.


Oliver

On 10 Feb 2016, at 10:17, Marc ARC wrote:


Dear MM list-users,

We are looking for advice for a good, very functional,  well 
supported  ( and not to expensive, open source ? ) IMAP-mailserver 
that runs on OSX


Eventually one that also supports calendar functionality ( CalDAV, . 
. .)


Thanks in advance,


Marc
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Re: [MlMt] choice of mailserver on osx

2016-02-11 Thread Marc ARC

Bill,

Thanks for the in depth info regarding both questions.

And I can confirm that CGP did a lot of work on the CalDAV ( and it took 
us quite some escalation and perseverance to have an difficult and most 
annoying issue resolved ) but sofa is the result OK.


Thanks again


Marc


On 11 Feb 2016, at 0:09, Bill Cole wrote:


On 10 Feb 2016, at 4:17, Marc ARC wrote:


Dear MM list-users,

We are looking for advice for a good, very functional,  well 
supported  ( and not to expensive, open source ? ) IMAP-mailserver 
that runs on OSX


Dovecot is absolutely the IMAP server of choice for just about any 
Unix-like OS where you don't have specialized needs for things it just 
doesn't do. You can install from distribution source yourself or use 
either MacPorts or Homebrew if you prefer or already use one of them 
for software management. OR: see below


Eventually one that also supports calendar functionality ( CalDAV, . 
. .)


Yeah, that's a different thing...

MacOS Server (these days a VERY affordable compound app that installs 
on standard MacOS X, not a pricey alternate version of the OS) 
includes slightly customized versions of Dovecot and Postfix with a 
reasonably good working config integrating them AND a CalDAV server 
that is essentially the reference implementation of the CalDAV 
spec(s). Unfortunately the CalDAV specs include some widely-expected 
extensions which seem to confuse implementors on both client and 
server sides to the point where interop really sucks. Mail/calendar 
integration is the worst of it, to the point where both Google and 
Apple don't even seriously try to follow the RFC defining how a CalDAV 
server should do invites and change notifications on their public 
services. I'm not actually sure how well the integration in MacOS X 
Server is, but it's there, it's supported for a low price, and if you 
prefer a GUI to manage a mail server, that's what you're getting. If 
you prefer managing a mail server in a terminal, DO NOT use 
Server.app: it will punish you for fiddling.


If "we" consists of a small number of people (i.e. a family or tiny 
business) you might also want to consider CommuniGatePro, an 
integrated "Universal Communication Server" meant to compare to MS 
Exchange. It is free for a small number of users and functional for 
more without a license except that it tags all outgoing messages with 
a note that it's a trial version when you go over the free limit (I 
don't recall if it is 5 or 10 users currently...) Paid pricing for CGP 
might be deemed "not too expensive" in the right frame of reference. 
Its CalDAV integration has evolved over the years from quasi-fraud to 
pretty solid. CGP is a truly integrated server (one closed-source 
binary daemon for 
SMTP/POP/IMAP/LDAP/SIP/XMPP/CalDAV/CardDAV/WebDAV/etc.) unlike MacOS X 
Server (a couple dozen daemons dressed up in a single duct-taped 
trenchcoat...) or a standalone Dovecot (which is great at IMAP and POP 
but doesn't send or receive mail on its own). Since CGP has a web 
admin GUI you may prefer it over Dovecot's deeply versatile and 
possibly confusing maze of config files or the oversimplified and 
mandatory GUI layer that Server wraps around Dovecot's complexity.


However, mif you really ONLY want IMAP and CalDAV, you can get Dovecot 
in prepackaged or source form and the latest from calendarserver.org 
and wire them together yourself, hooking into the Mac's built-in 
trivial Postfix installation as/if needed. Getting to that state with 
Server.app or CGP would be a lot of pointing and clicking to turn 
stuff off.


(full disclosure: I make my living in part by managing multiple mail 
systems, which include Postfix+Dovecot, MacOS X Server, and CGP 
environments. They all suck, each in their own special unique ways...)

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Re: [MlMt] choice of mailserver on osx

2016-02-11 Thread Marc ARC

@ All

Thanks for the info

On 10 Feb 2016, at 10:17, Marc ARC wrote:


Dear MM list-users,

We are looking for advice for a good, very functional,  well supported 
 ( and not to expensive, open source ? ) IMAP-mailserver that runs on 
OSX


Eventually one that also supports calendar functionality ( CalDAV, . . 
.)


Thanks in advance,


Marc
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Re: [MlMt] Install MM system wide

2016-02-11 Thread Marc ARC

Benny,

OK thanks,
We’ll script it

Marc

On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Feb 2016, at 7:59, Marc ARC wrote:


A number of our Mac’s are used by different users.

These mac’s have been setup with the appropriate user-accounts and 
for each user his own MM preference; which is working fine.


The problem we are running into is that we have to install MM in each 
user because if we install MM in the shared Applications only the 
user that installed MM can use it.


Wa already rewrote the acces privileges to “everybody” ( you have 
to do this for the app and it’s contents ) but after an update the 
problem is there again.


Anybody any idea how we could solve this ?


The only workaround is probably to automate the rewriting of the 
access privileges. It's a (very old) bug that this doesn't “just 
work”.


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Re: [MlMt] Order in which rules are applied

2016-02-11 Thread Marc ARC

Benny,

Works like a charm :-)
Thanks !!

Marc


On 30 Jan 2016, at 14:42, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 21 Feb 2015, at 22:30, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:19, Marc ARC wrote:


So I put the spam rule first and then the organisational rule

But it seems that it is not working from the moment there is a 
Recipient containing “@domain.eu”


( Also changed the order with imho identical behaviour )

Any idea how I could get it to work ?


Hmm, I'm actually not sure. As far as I can see MailMate does not 
stop applying rules when a message leaves the mailbox. I believe both 
moves are performed. In this case that seems to be a bug...


Bug or not, I've changed the behavior such that when a message is no 
longer part of the current mailbox (for whatever reason) then any 
subsequent rules of the mailbox are skipped.


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[MlMt] Rules on Inbox - Generic

2016-02-11 Thread Marc ARC

Hello,

We rely on rules to do some “pre-filtering” of our incoming mail ( 
we like to have certain mails routed to specific mail boxes )


ex: a rule on our inbox could look like:

if sender of email is in mailbox_X
move email to mailbox_X/Y


I’m looking for a more generic solution, with less need to write a 
rule for every similar condition


Something like:

	if sender/rule_condition of email is in SmartMailbox ( which might 
“contain” number of mailboxes )

move email to source_mailbox where sender/rule_condition was found

This could help us to “sort/archive” automatically marketing emails, 
mails of a certain sender, etc . . .


All idea’s are welcome


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Re: [MlMt] choice of mailserver on osx

2016-02-11 Thread Muster Hans

On 10 Feb 2016, at 16:41, Oliver Giessler wrote:

Marc, why don´t you just use OS X Server from Apple? It has what you 
need and costs only small change.


On 11 Feb 2016, at 22:47, Marc ARC wrote:


Oliver,

I didn’t think of that, due to previous experiences that with every 
OS-change, Apple also changes the server applications.

This makes upgrading quite difficult.

But it could be a good idea


OS X Server does indeed break things on upgrades, to the point where I 
am loathe to put too much trust in it.


The latest "improvement" in DNS for example took away the ability to 
search for individual entries, the search now operates on the zone 
names.


I cannot help but think it's part of the general attempt to push us 
"into the cloud". With the amount of data I have for the bandwidth 
available that's a non-starter.

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Re: [MlMt] Help for a command : )

2016-02-11 Thread Fredrik Jonsson

Ale Muñoz 2016-02-11 22:42 wrote:

I'd like to build a command for MailMate, have been taking a look at 
what's there, but haven't been able to crack this so far. Any pointers 
will be much appreciated.


For these kinds of tasks I have used Keyboard Maestro for many years.

http://www.keyboardmaestro.com/

Fredrik
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