[MlMt] Does mailmate know when I last read/opened mail?
Hi, Does mailmate by any chance keep track on when a mail was read/opened last ? Wondering if I could use it to archive/delete threads in which no email been open/read by me the last three months :) /max ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Does mailmate know when I last read/opened mail?
something something filename + mtime? It could be a great addition to a workflow. I miss the Old vs New vs Seen differences in mutt. Old was state kept in the headercache iirc. New and Seen were Maildir++ suffixes -- From: Max Rydahl Andersen (mailto:max.ander...@gmail.com) Reply: MailMate Users (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com) Date: 26 June 2016 at 11:14:35 To: MailMate Users (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com) Subject: [MlMt] Does mailmate know when I last read/opened mail? > Hi, > > Does mailmate by any chance keep track on when a mail was read/opened last ? > > Wondering if I could use it to archive/delete threads in which no email been > open/read by me the last three months :) > > /max > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] different markup language plugin?
Can I replace Markdown with a self-made plugin for another markup language? Just the same output styles is sufficient. I’d like to use the JIRA markup language, for the sake of my brain having to remember one set of rules. Is it a case of modifying https://github.com/vmg/sundown/blob/master/src/markdown.c and replacing it in `/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/bin/sundown`? Regards, C.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
On 25 Jun 2016, at 16:37, John Cooper wrote: I read again and again that MailMate uses the Sent folder to keep track of addresses, but I never have any messages in my Sent folder, and it still seems to do just fine. For example, it automatically used my mailmate address when I composed this message, although I only use it for messages to the list, and the address doesn't appear in the To: line of the message I'm replying to. If I'm missing any sort of functionality by not using my Sent folder, I can't tell what it is. If your Sent Messages mailbox is empty then MailMate only looks in Contacts when doing completions. (At least this is the default behavior.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
On 25 Jun 2016, at 17:47, aisrael wrote: Is there a way that the app could remember every address it sees, whether received or sent? No, you can specify a different mailbox (than Sent Messages) to be used as the “source” for completions, but MailMate would still only look at the recipient headers. I could make that optional though... -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
On 25 Jun 2016, at 19:51, aisrael wrote: The same Address Panel on my system shows all the entries in my OS X Contacts, including those imported from my phone which have just a name and phone number, no email address. Does it show anything else, that would come from your Sent folder? The panel only shows addresses which are present in Contacts (the address book). It's handled by OS X and MailMate has no influence on the entries in this panel. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
If your Sent Messages mailbox is empty then MailMate only looks in Contacts when doing completions. (At least this is the default behavior.) On 25 Jun 2016, at 17:47, aisrael wrote: Is there a way that the app could remember every address it sees, whether received or sent? No, you can specify a different mailbox (than Sent Messages) to be used as the “source” for completions, but MailMate would still only look at the recipient headers. I could make that optional though... How can I specify a different mailbox? And how can I modify the default behavior? For example is it possible to create a smart mailbox that would contain whatever is specified by a set of Rules, and instruct MM to use that mailbox as a source for completions? Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Alternate row colors
On 26 Jun 2016, at 3:47, Harvey Leff wrote: In Preferences/Viewer, I have checked "Alternate row colors" for the message outline, but no colors show in the message list. Is there another setting that must be turned on to get colors? Thanks. No, that should work and it should update immediately when toggling THE setting. It looks like this on OS X 10.11: ![](cid:ACB0E954-A9C8-4E9C-883A-6EDE3DC5CFE5@freron.com "PastedImage.png") -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Does mailmate know when I last read/opened mail?
On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:14, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Does mailmate by any chance keep track on when a mail was read/opened last ? Wondering if I could use it to archive/delete threads in which no email been open/read by me the last three months :) I don't guarantee it'll work, but you could try the virtual header “Date-Last-Viewed”. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
On 26 Jun 2016, at 16:34, aisrael wrote: How can I specify a different mailbox? And how can I modify the default behavior? For example is it possible to create a smart mailbox that would contain whatever is specified by a set of Rules, and instruct MM to use that mailbox as a source for completions? Yes, that's exactly what's possible, but MailMate would still only look at the recipient headers of those emails (to, cc). But I'm willing to make that optional if you find it useful. Look here for information about [`MmAddressCompletionMailbox`](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#sending). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
How can I specify a different mailbox? And how can I modify the default behavior? For example is it possible to create a smart mailbox that would contain whatever is specified by a set of Rules, and instruct MM to use that mailbox as a source for completions? Yes, that's exactly what's possible, but MailMate would still only look at the recipient headers of those emails (to, cc). But I'm willing to make that optional if you find it useful. I would find it useful, but if I am the only one, then I guess you have more important improvements to implement. I am not sure how much extra work it involves. Look here for information about [`MmAddressCompletionMailbox`](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#sending). I have read that, but I can’t figure out how I specify a different mailbox. Alain ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] different markup language plugin?
On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:44, Charlie Allom wrote: Can I replace Markdown with a self-made plugin for another markup language? Just the same output styles is sufficient. You can, but you shouldn't. Markdown is perfect for emails since it is based on email tradition. In other words, even if Markdown is not converted to HTML then it's (mostly) readable. MailMate marks outgoing emails as being based on Markdown and MailMate itself uses this to be smarter when replying/forwarding such emails. It would be quite bad if something is marked as Markdown when it isn't. Technically, MailMate currently heavily relies on exactly how the Markdown is generated, but this could probably be solved. When/if it is then I could probably allow custom Markdown converters or even other markup languages. It's not at the top of my list though. Slightly off topic, I'm strongly considering switching from `sundown` to `CommonMark`, but the latter does not support any kind of tables. I'll be interested if anyone has a solution to this problem. It might actually be best if MailMate handles it similarly to how it handles math and syntax highlighted segments. In other words, HTML table generation could be handled separately from the Markdown conversion (also allowing more than 1 table format). Well, just thinking out loud. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing learned recipients.
On 26 Jun 2016, at 16:45, aisrael wrote: Yes, that's exactly what's possible, but MailMate would still only look at the recipient headers of those emails (to, cc). But I'm willing to make that optional if you find it useful. I would find it useful, but if I am the only one, then I guess you have more important improvements to implement. I am not sure how much extra work it involves. I'm pretty sure it's very simple (at least as a hidden preference). I'll look into it. Look here for information about [`MmAddressCompletionMailbox`](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#sending). I have read that, but I can’t figure out how I specify a different mailbox. Sorry, I should have mentioned that. Simply select the smart mailbox in the mailbox list and hit ⌘C to put the mailbox UUID on the pasteboard (it's not always an actual UUID, but it's a unique identifier for the mailbox). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Alternate row colors
You need to toggle the setting to make it work. Not sure why. Howard Wettstein On 26 Jun 2016, at 7:32, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 26 Jun 2016, at 3:47, Harvey Leff wrote: In Preferences/Viewer, I have checked "Alternate row colors" for the message outline, but no colors show in the message list. Is there another setting that must be turned on to get colors? Thanks. No, that should work and it should update immediately when toggling THE setting. It looks like this on OS X 10.11: ![](cid:ACB0E954-A9C8-4E9C-883A-6EDE3DC5CFE5@freron.com "PastedImage.png") -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] different markup language plugin?
We appreciate the thinking out loud, even when we don’t know enough of the technical material to fully follow. Howie On 26 Jun 2016, at 7:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:44, Charlie Allom wrote: Can I replace Markdown with a self-made plugin for another markup language? Just the same output styles is sufficient. You can, but you shouldn't. Markdown is perfect for emails since it is based on email tradition. In other words, even if Markdown is not converted to HTML then it's (mostly) readable. MailMate marks outgoing emails as being based on Markdown and MailMate itself uses this to be smarter when replying/forwarding such emails. It would be quite bad if something is marked as Markdown when it isn't. Technically, MailMate currently heavily relies on exactly how the Markdown is generated, but this could probably be solved. When/if it is then I could probably allow custom Markdown converters or even other markup languages. It's not at the top of my list though. Slightly off topic, I'm strongly considering switching from `sundown` to `CommonMark`, but the latter does not support any kind of tables. I'll be interested if anyone has a solution to this problem. It might actually be best if MailMate handles it similarly to how it handles math and syntax highlighted segments. In other words, HTML table generation could be handled separately from the Markdown conversion (also allowing more than 1 table format). Well, just thinking out loud. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] help with smart folders
I want to work on mastering this. It’s obviously very powerful. but I don’t understand the various options in the drop down lists. I take it that a lot this is standard jargon. Is there a place I can look for a sort of translation manual, an explanation of the jargon? I don’t mean “in Mailmate” or its manual. I mean in general. Thanks. Howie ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] different markup language plugin?
On 26 Jun 2016, at 15:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:44, Charlie Allom wrote: Can I replace Markdown with a self-made plugin for another markup language? Just the same output styles is sufficient. Markdown is perfect for emails since it is based on email tradition. In other words, even if Markdown is not converted to HTML then it's (mostly) readable. MailMate marks outgoing emails as being based on Markdown and MailMate itself uses this to be smarter when replying/forwarding such emails. It would be quite bad if something is marked as Markdown when it isn't. Thank you for the considered reply. I hadn’t realised this! What I had come up with was [`j2m`](https://github.com/FokkeZB/J2M) in front of the `sundown` conversion, first, so as not to upset the MailMate workflow. It converts JIRA to Markdown, so I can keep ~one method in my brain. (yes github markdown for now). I had something in mind like replacing `/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/bin/sundown` with a script that piped my JIRA-style md through `j2m` to a github-style md.. which was then picked up by the real `sundown` binary, just by piping them through each other. If that worked I’d write my own `j2m` style pipe script that wasn’t github specific. It isn’t working. If I replace the `sundown` binary with this script, the composing window immediately loses it’s HTML preview. I can’t find out how to get debug logs to find out what MlMt is expecting or erroring on :) ~~~bash #!/bin/bash cat | /usr/local/bin/j2m -m --stdin | /Users/charlie/bin/sundown ~~~ In the shell it works: ~~~ % echo '{{pre}} and `pre`' | /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/bin/sundown pre and pre ~~~ Slightly off topic, I'm strongly considering switching from `sundown` to `CommonMark`, but the latter does not support any kind of tables. I'll be interested if anyone has a solution to this problem. How about https://github.com/hoedown/hoedown ? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate