Re: [MlMt] Default settings for encryption/signing on per accout?

2016-07-25 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 10 Jul 2016, at 15:12, y...@gmx.de wrote:

By default (opening a new composer window) encryption is enabled and 
my private email
from my business account is selected. For sending a private email I 
have to my private
identity and the encryption option remains on...so I always have to 
uncheck the encryption
option which is kind of annoying...is there any reasonable way for 
having the encryption/signing
options per account and not based on some vague "history" magic? It's 
just not working as expected.


No, there's currently no way to do that (and there probably should be).

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Re: [MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails

2016-07-25 Thread John D. Muccigrosso

On 25 Jul 2016, at 13:39, Ralph Alvy wrote:

This wouldn’t handle this situation, where I don’t realize the 
connection is slow until I see the long period the mail is sitting in 
Drafts during the Send process.


On 25 Jul 2016, at 6:28, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 24 Jul 2016, at 12:09, Ralph Alvy wrote:



Here’s where it becomes an issue. I’m in a location where SMTP 
is too slow for the attachment I want to email, but I didn’t 
realize it. Too late. I just hit Send. I’d like to be able stop it 
when I see it taking forever in Drafts, and just send them a Dropbox 
link instead.




A possible solution to such problems is having a default delay on 
sending. (Some other app does this, I think, but I forget which). So 
your messages would go out after X seconds, instead of right away. 
Then you could cancel the send within that time period.


Note that this is different from a scheduled send (which would also 
be nice).


Ah, you said “I just hit send” which made me think it was a matter 
of a few seconds. Even so, the delay could be 5 minutes.


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Re: [MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails

2016-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy

Thanks, Benny.

On 24 Jul 2016, at 14:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 24 Jul 2016, at 18:09, Ralph Alvy wrote:


On 24 Jul 2016, at 8:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

That is correct. Ideally, I guess MailMate should signal the SMTP 
connection to abort. My own connection is too fast to ever make this 
relevant :)


Here’s where it becomes an issue. I’m in a location where SMTP is 
too slow for the attachment I want to email, but I didn’t realize 
it. Too late. I just hit Send. I’d like to be able stop it when I 
see it taking forever in Drafts, and just send them a Dropbox link 
instead.


I did not mean to imply that the problem wasn't real. I just don't (or 
very rarely) experience it myself. This is true for many 
issues/features/bugs. I did note the problem (and some notes about how 
to best handle it).


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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think

2016-07-25 Thread Howard Wettstein

Thanks.
Howie

On 24 Jul 2016, at 23:04, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


On 24 Jul 2016, at 17:46, Howard Wettstein wrote:

I meant: what will this accomplish vis-a-vis getting the same stuff 
on the target machine. Will (source machine’s) smart mailboxes now 
show up? If not, what does this accomplish?


One of the files are:

```
Mailboxes.plist (smart mailboxes and various mailbox related settings)
```

So yes, smart mailboxes will show up on the new mailmate you run on 
the machine you copy these files too.


About what it does: it simply copies the configuration files mailmate 
uses and thus you avoid having to manually setup things.


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Howie

On 24 Jul 2016, at 8:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 24 Jul 2016, at 17:38, Howard Wettstein wrote:

No rush on this, but remind me what gets copied by copying these 
files. What will show up on the target machine?


	Mailboxes.plist (smart mailboxes and various mailbox related 
settings)

Tags.plist (tag names and their mappings to IMAP keywords)
Signatures.plist
Sources.plist (IMAP related settings)
Submission.plist (SMTP related settings)
	Identities.plist (email identities, that is, names and email 
addresses/patterns)


The last 3 files should always be copied together. All files are 
readable plain text.


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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think

2016-07-25 Thread John D. Muccigrosso

On 24 Jul 2016, at 11:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 21 Jul 2016, at 23:14, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 21 Jul 2016, at 6:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:




On 21 Jul 2016, at 12:05, Alain Israel wrote:



I agree, this is probably one of the only weak points of MM. 
However based on my experience with other applications, this is 
definitively not a trivial issue, and it is certainly dependent on 
the IMAP server.




Why couldn’t MM store smart-mailbox info in iCloud?


The problem is not where to store, but how to synchronize what is 
stored between MailMate installs. Currently MailMate cannot even 
detect changes made to the file storing smart mailboxes. A relaunch is 
needed when editing it manually.


Using iCloud to store is also an unnecessary complication when IMAP is 
already known/configured and available for shared storage (and 
potentially cross-platform although that is not relevant in this 
case).


Yes, but Apple encourages use of iCloud for such things, doesn’t it? 
And it doesn’t involves the manipulation of IMAP for non-mail stuff.


Personally I wouldn’t much mind if it were DropBox instead of iCloud, 
but I think iCloud is a bit more user-friendly and doesn’t require any 
special subscriptions. Many non-savvy users use iCloud already.


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Re: [MlMt] Cancel or Delete Send fails

2016-07-25 Thread John D. Muccigrosso

On 24 Jul 2016, at 12:09, Ralph Alvy wrote:

Here’s where it becomes an issue. I’m in a location where SMTP is 
too slow for the attachment I want to email, but I didn’t realize 
it. Too late. I just hit Send. I’d like to be able stop it when I 
see it taking forever in Drafts, and just send them a Dropbox link 
instead.


A possible solution to such problems is having a default delay on 
sending. (Some other app does this, I think, but I forget which). So 
your messages would go out after X seconds, instead of right away. Then 
you could cancel the send within that time period.


Note that this is different from a scheduled send (which would also be 
nice).


John
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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think

2016-07-25 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:54, Mike Brasch wrote:

> As long a syncing mechanism uses local folders for syncing (like Dropbox, 
> Bittorrent Sync and some others) MailMate could copy the relevant data to 
> such a folder. This way users can use their preferred syncing service.

+1

MailMate should be able to detect whether the file has changed, and in that 
case re-read its new configuration, and when saving, it just saves the new 
config waiting for the service to propagate it to other units.

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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think

2016-07-25 Thread Mike Brasch

On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:19, Robert Brenstein wrote:

He would be better off to work only with iCloud since every Mac users 
has access there or set up his own service tailored to his needs.


I never used iCloud and I have no intention to ever change this. I 
prefer more "generic" ways of syncing. Currently I use Bittorrent Sync 
and Dropbox (for me it is "generic" enough as it is available for many 
platforms).


As long a syncing mechanism uses local folders for syncing (like 
Dropbox, Bittorrent Sync and some others) MailMate could copy the 
relevant data to such a folder. This way users can use their preferred 
syncing service.


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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think

2016-07-25 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 24.07.2016 at 21:37 Uhr +0200 Roberto Thiella apparently wrote:

But why not using the dropbox feature in order to sync?



Dropbox was implicitly included in "whatever cloud service users 
have". Dropbox is not the only game in town. Many people would prefer 
to use iCloud, some ownCloud, some Google or Amazon Cloud or whatever 
else. If Benny goes that route, he would have to support access to at 
least a selection of major players. That would be a lot os effort and 
complications, me thinks. He would be better off to work only with 
iCloud since every Mac users has access there or set up his own 
service tailored to his needs.


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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think

2016-07-25 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 24 Jul 2016, at 17:46, Howard Wettstein wrote:

I meant: what will this accomplish vis-a-vis getting the same stuff on 
the target machine. Will (source machine’s) smart mailboxes now show 
up? If not, what does this accomplish?


One of the files are:

```
Mailboxes.plist (smart mailboxes and various mailbox related settings)
```

So yes, smart mailboxes will show up on the new mailmate you run on the 
machine you copy these files too.


About what it does: it simply copies the configuration files mailmate 
uses and thus you avoid having to manually setup things.


/max


Howie

On 24 Jul 2016, at 8:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 24 Jul 2016, at 17:38, Howard Wettstein wrote:

No rush on this, but remind me what gets copied by copying these 
files. What will show up on the target machine?


	Mailboxes.plist (smart mailboxes and various mailbox related 
settings)

Tags.plist (tag names and their mappings to IMAP keywords)
Signatures.plist
Sources.plist (IMAP related settings)
Submission.plist (SMTP related settings)
	Identities.plist (email identities, that is, names and email 
addresses/patterns)


The last 3 files should always be copied together. All files are 
readable plain text.


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