Re: [MlMt] composer window placement
Should have added that this happens with messages I’m reading too. Same feeling about it. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] composer window placement
New-message windows in MM2 seem to get placed a little right and lower than the previous one, until one gets as far right and down as possible and then they stay there. Makes me think they’re going off-screen. I’d prefer MM2 to remember where I placed one the last time and always use that. Or at least restart the placement (as I think Mail.app does). Thanks. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Why Is Source Code Pro An Unknown Font?
Dear Benny and other geniuses on the MailMate Users List, Out of curiosity, I decided to launch MailMate via iTerm2/Terminal the other day. I hadn’t experienced any particular problems and just wanted to see if any warnings or error messages popped up. However, something did show up. Every time I select a message, both read and unread, the following kind of warning appears in the command line: MailMate[29971:472156] Warning: Unknown font “SourceCodePro” Every line is preceded by date and time. I do use the font “Source Code Pro” in plain text messages and have set the font by way of the “Fonts” panel available in the “Format” menu, not via any CSS files in MailMate’s folders in Application Support. I’ve selected “Source Code Sans” with a similar approach to set preferred font for the message list columns and the mailbox sidebar. (I’ve opted for the Widescreen layout.) And, yes, both fonts show up as the one’s I’ve picked. My questions are these: 1. Why is “SourceCodePro” considered an unknown font? 2. Why is it labeled as one word (not as “Source Code Pro”)? I’m running MailMate 1.9.4 (5234) with “Experimental 2.0 Features” enabled. My Mac OS X version is 10.11.6. Nice if anyone can clarify the matter. Thanks! -- Hans Trygve Jensen | p...@htjensen.no Sail With The Arts | web: htjensen.no ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Updating account information made MailMate (re)download *all* email
On 1 Aug 2016, at 6:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 28 Jul 2016, at 2:37, Sherif Soliman wrote: [FastMail issues] What I chose to do is to start with a fresh install of MailMate. I kept a copy of my keybindings file and `Tags.plist`, removed everything else, and set everything up from scratch. I haven't had any issues since. I'm glad it works given that I didn't provide much help. Thanks for the updates (and warning for other users). Now, I'll try to analyze what happened. You wrote: I put in the new password and changed the server names from the old `mail.messagingengine.com` to `.fastmail.com`. I'm pretty sure MailMate displays a warning at this point. This is because you have to be absolutely sure that MailMate is still looking at the exact same account. Otherwise, the mapping between local emails and server emails might be incorrect which could, e.g., lead to deleting a message locally which maps to a different message on the server. (This is not very likely to happen due to what follows below, but some servers have a somewhat primitive use of `UIDVALIDITY` often reusing values between user accounts.) Yes, I remember seeing that warning. I read its meaning as you just described it: make sure this is the same account as it was before because if MailMate authenticates and finds different messages than what it had before, it will download them and delete the old ones, and generally do whatever it needs to do to reflect the new reality it finds on that server. Now, it looks like this should be ok with FastMail, but then it seems something else happened. The redownloading of emails indicate that the `UIDVALIDITY` value changed of each mailbox. Each email is uniquely identified using the `UIDVALIDITY` of the mailbox and the `UID` of the message. If the `UIDVALIDITY` value of a mailbox changes then MailMate MUST delete its local cache of emails and then fetch the “new” messages of the mailbox. There is no way to tell MailMate to ignore `UIDVALIDITY` changes. Hmm, MailMate should also warn you when the latter happens which makes me think that this might be a MailMate bug after all. I have a FastMail test account and I'll note to test what happens when I do as you describe. Sorry about the inconvenience if this turns out to be a bug. I did not see any other warnings besides that first one. Sherif ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Syncing SmartBox synchronous between two hosts
Hello everyone, I am trying to use MailMate and I really like the SmartBox feature. But I have a problem: I have two machines, and would really like to have the SmartBoxes synchronous between this both hosts… This is possible with copying the file Mailboxes.plist into ownCloud and symlink it to the ~/Library/Application Support/Mailboxes.plist file. But after changing a SmartBox the Mailboxes.plist file is a complete new file. The symlink will be overwritten with the new file and this ends in the situation that both machines are not synchronous in SmartBoxes anymore. Do you have any idea for me? Thanks and regards Tobias ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] scripts/rules not taking effect...?
On 28 Jul 2016, at 23:26, Seebs wrote:
So I have some rules, which appear to work. And I have other rules,
which... don't seem to. And I am not sure what I'm missing. But I
vaguely recall there having been an option for turning on logging so I
could see more information about rules.
As an example, consider the script MoveMlmt.mmCommand:
This is in the resources Script folder? I'm likely to deprecate that
eventually.
{
name= 'Move Mlmt';
events = ( 'account.synchronized' );
select = "subject =[c] '[MlMt]'";
actions = ( { type = moveMessage; mailbox = mlmt; },
{ type = changeFlags; enable = ( '\\Seen' ); disable = ( );
},
);
}
The intent is to move things from this list automatically into a
mailbox,
and mark them as seen. (Okay, maybe not a great plan, given that I
presumably want to see responses to this, but it's a good example.)
:) You should click on the Inbox and use “Mailbox ▸ Edit Mailbox”
and then switch to the Rules pane. Then setup your condition and actions
in a rule. Then let me know if that also doesn't work. This condition is
also more exact: “Subject ▸ Blob is "MlMt"”. Although basing it on
the `List-ID` header would be even better. Note that creating a smart
mailbox makes it easier to play around with conditions matching the
expected messages.
--
Benny
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Re: [MlMt] enhancement, I think
On 25 Jul 2016, at 13:55, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:54, Mike Brasch wrote: As long a syncing mechanism uses local folders for syncing (like Dropbox, Bittorrent Sync and some others) MailMate could copy the relevant data to such a folder. This way users can use their preferred syncing service. +1 MailMate should be able to detect whether the file has changed, and in that case re-read its new configuration, and when saving, it just saves the new config waiting for the service to propagate it to other units. I'll just end this thread with a couple of comments: * The discussion quickly turned into “which cloud service”, but this is just a technicality (and I still think IMAP itself is the best choice). The challenge is not how to synchronize the mailboxes file, it's how to gracefully handle any order and timing of changes to this file on multiple machines. * The above file oriented behavior, as described by Patrik, is essentially what is needed for synchronization to work. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Updating account information made MailMate (re)download *all* email
On 28 Jul 2016, at 2:37, Sherif Soliman wrote: [FastMail issues] What I chose to do is to start with a fresh install of MailMate. I kept a copy of my keybindings file and `Tags.plist`, removed everything else, and set everything up from scratch. I haven't had any issues since. I'm glad it works given that I didn't provide much help. Thanks for the updates (and warning for other users). Now, I'll try to analyze what happened. You wrote: I put in the new password and changed the server names from the old `mail.messagingengine.com` to `.fastmail.com`. I'm pretty sure MailMate displays a warning at this point. This is because you have to be absolutely sure that MailMate is still looking at the exact same account. Otherwise, the mapping between local emails and server emails might be incorrect which could, e.g., lead to deleting a message locally which maps to a different message on the server. (This is not very likely to happen due to what follows below, but some servers have a somewhat primitive use of `UIDVALIDITY` often reusing values between user accounts.) Now, it looks like this should be ok with FastMail, but then it seems something else happened. The redownloading of emails indicate that the `UIDVALIDITY` value changed of each mailbox. Each email is uniquely identified using the `UIDVALIDITY` of the mailbox and the `UID` of the message. If the `UIDVALIDITY` value of a mailbox changes then MailMate MUST delete its local cache of emails and then fetch the “new” messages of the mailbox. There is no way to tell MailMate to ignore `UIDVALIDITY` changes. Hmm, MailMate should also warn you when the latter happens which makes me think that this might be a MailMate bug after all. I have a FastMail test account and I'll note to test what happens when I do as you describe. Sorry about the inconvenience if this turns out to be a bug. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
