Re: [MlMt] More questions
On 19 Dec 2016, at 16:11, Robert M. Münch wrote: 1. It looks like the sorting order is not retained. I use "newest on top" but MM switches back to "newest at bottom" if I open a different smartbox. I think I have changed the sorting order there too. Is there a way to change the default sorting order? Setup your preferred settings, e.g., in the Inbox and then use “View ▸ Headers ▸ Use as Default Columns”. You might want to reset everything first using this Terminal command: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates As I've noted before on the list I really need to redesign how mailbox states are saved, but this is still work in progress. 2. The selected columns to show are not retained as well. I selected the ones I want to show, defined these as standard and applied it to some smartboxes. But after returning only the "older" default ones are shown. In the right click menu for columns, the "revert to default" is disabled. When that is disabled then it should be because the current set of columns matches the default set. Try the above first, but I'm not ruling out bugs in the code handling this (there are known issues which is the main reason for the desire to redesign). 3. Is there a way to apply smart inbox rules in real-time. So, when marking a message as read that it won't show up any longer in my "unread" smartbox? This is default behavior except that it's intensionally disabled to get the current behavior of the Unread mailbox. You can disable it like this: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmStickyMessagesEnabled -bool NO -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Labels/colors, global rules, and in-line reply/f=f
On 21 Dec 2016, at 1:40, Randall Gellens wrote: "0" = ( "removeTag:", "\\Flagged", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit0", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit1", "removeTag:", "$MailFlagBit2" ); Let me rephrase my question: I like being able to have messages show with different colors, and I currently use Eudora's "Make Label" action in filters (rules) to have messages show with one of 14 different labels. For example, if a message is from person A, it will have label color 1 applied; if it was sent to my address B, it will have label color 2 applied; different labels are applied if my email is in the To header field for some accounts or if my name appears early in the body. Eudora happens to leverage Finder labels for this purpose, but that's an accident of implementation, not anything fundamental. What's important is having messages in the same mailbox look different in the message list (table of contents). There is currently no way to get, e.g., colored lines. The best you can do is to use tags (or maybe colored flags) and then enable the “Tags” column in the messages list. There's also an emoji variant of this column. The idea here is that you can assign an emoji in the Tags preferences pane to a tag and this is then used in a narrow Tags column. Emojis are accessed in a text field by hitting ⌃⌘+space. Not having used MailMate for real yet, I haven't tried setting rules yet. In the example above, do the flags $MailFlagBit1 and $MailFlagBit2 affect the display of the messages in the mailbox message list? It affects the color of the flag of any flagged messages. It's how Apple Mail handles colored flags. Why is it necessary to remove the flags not being set? Is that just in case some other rule set them, Yes. Each color has a specific bit pattern. (2) Can rules be global, applicable to all mailboxes, or can rules be inherited? Rules can be configured for any mailbox, both IMAP and smart mailboxes. In other words, they can apply to any set of messages for which you can create a smart mailbox. There's no inheritance involved with regard to rules. Can a set of rules apply to all mailboxes in an account, or all mailboxes in all accounts? Or would this require either copying the rules, or creating a smart mailbox that contained all messages in all mailboxes? If a default mailbox does not exist which matches the emails you want then you might need a smart mailbox. But there is a default set of universal mailboxes (one Inbox for all inboxes etc.) and also one named “All Messages” which contains anything but junk/trash (I don't think rules for this mailbox is very useful though). Rules themselves can also have conditions if you just need to narrow it down a bit. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Different Color (Dark?) Schemes possible?
On 21 Dec 2016, at 8:36, Robert M. Münch wrote: Hi, is it possible to use a dark scheme with MailMate? I would like to get rid of all the white areas to reduce eye strain. No, such a scheme does not exist. It's probably possible to change the background of the message view using CSS, but that's it. The best you can do is probably the “Invert Colors” setting in the global Accessibility settings. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Date Received in message list
On 20 Dec 2016, at 17:20, Sherif Soliman wrote: On 20 Dec 2016, at 10:00, Tom Worster wrote: Can I configure MailMate to display the time in the date received column of the message list for more than today? I think that, coincidentally, the question of the width of the Date Received column was raised only a couple of days ago on the list. Try increasing the width of the Date Received column. Prior to doing that, I could only see the time for the Today emails, but once you increase it you'll find that the times are shown for all of them. thank you. tom ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Missing older mails from GMail
On 21 Dec 2016, at 20:18, Robert M. Münch wrote: Hi, I have connected MM to my GMail account. There I have about 120.000 messages. MM has about 42.000 in "All Messages" and about 117.000 in "All Messages Subparts" (BTW what is this?) Don't worry about the latter. It's almost an implementation detail which I probably should never have exposed. Some users rely on it though. It does allow creating smart mailboxes which only show subparts of other emails, e.g., a mailbox of PDF message parts, but it's not as flexible/robust as I originally intended it to be. So, how do I get MM to read all Gmail messages? Is there a way to check that everything was downloaded? What you are missing is the “[Gmail]/All Mail” folder which is not subscribed by default (see “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account editor). This is a special Gmail mailbox which is similar to the “All Messages” mailbox in MailMate. The problem is that it's not a smart folder and if MailMate naively fetches all of its contents then you are most likely going to see a lot of duplicates, e.g., any INBOX message is also in “All Mail”. But MailMate tries to be smart about it and detect such duplicates. At least in theory MailMate should only fetch messages in “All Mail” which are not found in any other mailboxes. The problem is that this is not very efficient and if you don't really need these emails then it's better to keep the mailbox unsubscribed. It can also be a bit fragile, because Google might change how the (undocumented) details work in the future. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Triggering markdown with 'complimentary close' above signature
On 21 Dec 2016, at 21:44, Charlie Garrison wrote: On 22 Dec 2016, at 0:08, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Sorry for any confusion I have caused, I don’t think you caused any confusion. ;-) I think I caused the confusion by not escaping characters correctly when I wanted to recommend dash-dash-space. I jumped in since I was having a similar problem, but my issue was ‘lack’ of formatting unless I introduce a blank line. I would like for my sig content to be on the following line from the sig marker, not with a blank line between sig marker and sig content. Benny, I gave an example in an earlier message in this thread. Would it be helpful if I sent a proper report to feedback address. This is probably unlikely to change. It would mean that dash-dash-space needed to be treated differently than, e.g., a line with some text. In any case, my plan is to switch the default Markdown converter to something else. I currently use a [modified](https://github.com/freron/upskirt) version of `sundown`. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Missing older mails from GMail
On 22 Dec 2016, at 20:06, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > Don't worry about the latter. It's almost an implementation detail which I > probably should never have exposed. Some users rely on it though. It does > allow creating smart mailboxes which only show subparts of other emails, > e.g., a mailbox of PDF message parts, but it's not as flexible/robust as I > originally intended it to be. Hi Benny, Ok, I see. > What you are missing is the “[Gmail]/All Mail” folder which is not subscribed > by default (see “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account editor). Ah, I read the "/All Mail" part and that it's not subscribed. > ... > > But MailMate tries to be smart about it and detect such duplicates. At least > in theory MailMate should > only fetch messages in “All Mail” which are not found in any other mailboxes. Ok. > The problem is that this is not very efficient and if you don't really need > these emails then it's better to keep the mailbox unsubscribed. It can also > be a bit fragile, because Google might change how the (undocumented) details > work in the future. Got it... IIRC I saw other mail clients running nuts with my Gmail account and always wondered what the problem is. This might have been the cause. One idea: Since I expect I can't search these "not fetched" messages at the moment, it's a bit hard to remember to search my old mails as well. How about having a feature that does a live-search against this folder so I at least can see if there is something in it? -- Robert M. Münch, CEO M: +41 79 65 11 49 6 Saphirion AG smarter | better | faster http://www.saphirion.com http://www.nlpp.ch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
