Re: [MlMt] Download Images still downloads 1 pixel ones

2022-05-07 Thread Randall Gellens

On 7 May 2022, at 7:53, Henry Seiden wrote:


Hello Randall,

I use the download feature all the time to get single images (not 
Download All) and get the full item in my Downloads folder where it 
was set. Thinking that was the default, but not sure).


Further thoughts:
1. Could it be that your download isn’t being directed/specified to 
the proper place? Maybe not since the 1px file link is there.

2. Does a restart of the app or the machine make a difference

MM Preferences>Default Downloads Folder>select/specify the folder 
location (name/location), including a sub-folder. Note that in the 
Menu page there is a checkbox to “Insert file link when removing an 
attachment.” That may have something to do with what you see. Mine 
is checked by default.


Have a go at those settings.

My version is r5895, but I think those settings are the same in the 
release version.


Hi Henry,

I'm not trying to download attachments (I access attachments via their 
icon). I'm talking about the "Download All" and "Download" buttons that 
appear when a message contains embedded images. Some messages contain 
many embedded images and it isn't possible to know which ones I want to 
see. I appreciate that MailMate categorizes embedded images as either 
"blocked" or "strictly blocked," but I was hoping that 1-pixel images 
(which are obviously trackers/beacons) were categorized as "strictly 
blocked" and that "Download" (versus "Download All") wouldn't download 
them.


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Re: [MlMt] cannot delete previously trashed message

2022-05-07 Thread Tracy Valleau
Thanks Bill. I gave the terminal commands a go at it, and now things are... 
well... different. So the problem keeps changing, but I'll get it figured out.

Appreciate your courtesy!

Tracy
www.valleau.art

On 7 May 2022, at 12:29, Bill Cole wrote:

> See my attached reply to your earlier post on the mailing list
>
>
> On 2022-05-07 at 14:35:52 UTC-0400 (Sat, 07 May 2022 11:35:52 -0700)
> Tracy Valleau 
> is rumored to have said:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not physically 
>> exist, and I cannot remove the (red) entry.
>>
>> It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't want it. 
>> Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email to which I 
>> replied.
>>
>> The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  
>> unsigned email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to the 
>> trash.
>>
>> Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's empty. I 
>> looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local trash and so 
>> deleted it with the finder.
>>
>> oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my /source/trash 
>> mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me I have an Anti-Virus 
>> problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but it's grayed out.
>>
>> It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals somewhere, 
>> and I cannot find it.
>>
>> So: two things
>>
>> One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in the 
>> first place and
>>
>> two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...
>>
>> but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or do a 
>> "force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM internals from 
>> what actually is in place on the server. Synchronize did not do it; reset 
>> could not be invoked.
>>
>> Suggestions  anyone?
>>
>> TIA
>>
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Re: [MlMt] Download Images still downloads 1 pixel ones

2022-05-07 Thread Robert P. Goldman
I started using the Mac firewall to block the bad actors with the one pixel 
images, but got bogged down because there were so many. Need more automation….

--  
Robert P. Goldman  

On May 7, 2022 at 09:53:36, Henry Seiden 
(i...@techworkspro.com(mailto:i...@techworkspro.com)) wrote:

>  
> Hello Randall,
>  
>  
> I use the download feature all the time to get single images (not Download 
> All) and get the full item in my Downloads folder where it was set. Thinking 
> that was the default, but not sure).
>  
>  
> Further thoughts:
>  
> Could it be that your download isn’t being directed/specified to the proper 
> place? Maybe not since the 1px file link is there.
> Does a restart of the app or the machine make a difference
>  
>  
> MM Preferences>Default Downloads Folder>select/specify the folder location 
> (name/location), including a sub-folder. Note that in the Menu page there is 
> a checkbox to “Insert file link when removing an attachment.” That may have 
> something to do with what you see. Mine is checked by default.
>  
>  
> Have a go at those settings.
>  
>  
> My version is r5895, but I think those settings are the same in the release 
> version.
>  
>  
> Respectfully,
> Henry Seiden
> E: Techworks Pro E-mail(mailto:i...@techworkspro.com)
> W: Techworks Pro Co. Home Page(http://techworkspro.com)
>  
> Techworks Pro Co.  
>  
> Founder, Henry Seiden i...@techworkspro.com
>  
>  
>  
> © 2022 techworkspro.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On 7 May 2022, at 10:36, Randall Gellens wrote:
>  
> >  
> > Using the "Download" (not "Download All") button in the message display, MM 
> > still downloads 1 pixel images and then warns that it did so. Is there a 
> > way to download just the "real" images and not the obvious trackers 
> > (especially the 1 pixel ones)?
> >  
> >  
> > --Randall
> >  
> >  
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[MlMt] Multiple list postings from Tracy

2022-05-07 Thread Tracy Valleau
My apologies to one and all.

Upon posting, I got a reply from the list that my post was rejected for a DMARC 
failure.

Couldn't believe it so tried again. Ditto.

Spent 45 minutes online with my email provider.

Ditto.

Rejoined the list with a new email address... and it went through.

Sent Benny a copy of the DMARC rejection letter.

I'm really not spamming the list!  ;-)

Thanks

Tracy

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Re: [MlMt] cannot delete previously trashed message

2022-05-07 Thread Bill Cole

See my attached reply to your earlier post on the mailing list


On 2022-05-07 at 14:35:52 UTC-0400 (Sat, 07 May 2022 11:35:52 -0700)
Tracy Valleau 
is rumored to have said:


Hello

I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not 
physically exist, and I cannot remove the (red) entry.


It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't 
want it. Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email 
to which I replied.


The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  
unsigned email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to 
the trash.


Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's 
empty. I looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local 
trash and so deleted it with the finder.


oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my 
/source/trash mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me 
I have an Anti-Virus problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but 
it's grayed out.


It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals 
somewhere, and I cannot find it.


So: two things

One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in 
the first place and


two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...

but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or 
do a "force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM 
internals from what actually is in place on the server. Synchronize 
did not do it; reset could not be invoked.


Suggestions  anyone?

TIA

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On 2022-05-07 at 13:17:45 UTC-0400 (Sat, 07 May 2022 10:17:45 -0700)
Tracy Valleau 
is rumored to have said:


Hello

I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not exists, 
and I cannot remove the (red) entry.


It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't 
want it. Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email 
to which I replied.


The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  
unsigned email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to 
the trash.


Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's 
empty. I looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local 
trash and so deleted it with the finder.


oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my 
/source/trash mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me 
I have an Anti-Virus problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but 
it's grayed out.


It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals 
somewhere, and I cannot find it.


So: two things

One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in 
the first place and


two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...

but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or 
do a "force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM 
internals from what actually is in place on the server. Synchronize 
did not do it; reset could not be invoked.


Suggestions  anyone?


I assume that you've restarted MailMate since deleting the actual file. 
If not, do that.


If you already tried that, you can do a rebuild of the database from 
what's actually on disk. That process is documented in the Help, linked 
from the top page of the Help.




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[MlMt] cannot delete previously trashed message

2022-05-07 Thread Tracy Valleau
Hello

I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not physically 
exist, and I cannot remove the (red) entry.

It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't want it. 
Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email to which I replied.

The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  unsigned 
email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to the trash.

Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's empty. I 
looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local trash and so deleted 
it with the finder.

oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my /source/trash 
mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me I have an Anti-Virus 
problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but it's grayed out.

It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals somewhere, and 
I cannot find it.

So: two things

One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in the first 
place and

two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...

but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or do a 
"force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM internals from what 
actually is in place on the server. Synchronize did not do it; reset could not 
be invoked.

Suggestions  anyone?

TIA

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Re: [MlMt] cannot delete trasehd message

2022-05-07 Thread Bill Cole

On 2022-05-07 at 13:17:45 UTC-0400 (Sat, 07 May 2022 10:17:45 -0700)
Tracy Valleau 
is rumored to have said:


Hello

I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not exists, 
and I cannot remove the (red) entry.


It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't 
want it. Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email 
to which I replied.


The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  
unsigned email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to 
the trash.


Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's 
empty. I looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local 
trash and so deleted it with the finder.


oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my 
/source/trash mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me 
I have an Anti-Virus problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but 
it's grayed out.


It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals 
somewhere, and I cannot find it.


So: two things

One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in 
the first place and


two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...

but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or 
do a "force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM 
internals from what actually is in place on the server. Synchronize 
did not do it; reset could not be invoked.


Suggestions  anyone?


I assume that you've restarted MailMate since deleting the actual file. 
If not, do that.


If you already tried that, you can do a rebuild of the database from 
what's actually on disk. That process is documented in the Help, linked 
from the top page of the Help.




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Re: [MlMt] Download Images still downloads 1 pixel ones

2022-05-07 Thread Randy Bush
i don't think the one pixel tracker is detectable until you have eaten
it

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[MlMt] cannot delete trasehd message

2022-05-07 Thread Tracy Valleau
Hello

I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not exists, and I 
cannot remove the (red) entry.

It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't want it. 
Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email to which I replied.

The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  unsigned 
email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to the trash.

Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's empty. I 
looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local trash and so deleted 
it with the finder.

oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my /source/trash 
mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me I have an Anti-Virus 
problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but it's grayed out.

It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals somewhere, and 
I cannot find it.

So: two things

One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in the first 
place and

two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...

but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or do a 
"force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM internals from what 
actually is in place on the server. Synchronize did not do it; reset could not 
be invoked.

Suggestions  anyone?

TIA

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[MlMt] Undeletable email

2022-05-07 Thread Tracy Valleau
Hello

I have an email listed in my Source/Trash folder that does not exists, and I 
cannot remove the (red) entry.

It's my fault: I installed GPG for a bit and then decided I didn't want it. 
Before I removed it however, someone sent me a signed email to which I replied.

The reply failed because I didn't have a signed key. I created a new  unsigned 
email and replied, and then moved the "not signed" email to the trash.

Now it's stuck there. I looked at the trash via Webmail, and it's empty. I 
looked in the mailmate folders and found it in the local trash and so deleted 
it with the finder.

oops.  The red-text listing for the email still appears in my /source/trash 
mailbox in Mailmate, and now I get a message telling me I have an Anti-Virus 
problem. It suggests I try /message/reset, but it's grayed out.

It appears that the message only exists in MailMate's internals somewhere, and 
I cannot find it.

So: two things

One: a PGP fail should not leave a message which cannot be deleted in the first 
place and

two: I likely made the situation worse with my mucking about...

but still and all, there should be -some- way to correct this and/or do a 
"force delete". At the very least, a way to rebuild the MM internals from what 
actually is in place on the server. Synchronize did not do it; reset could not 
be invoked.

Suggestions  anyone?

TIA

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Re: [MlMt] Download Images still downloads 1 pixel ones [updated]

2022-05-07 Thread Henry Seiden

Hello Randall,

I use the download feature all the time to get single images (not 
Download All) and get the full item in my Downloads folder where it was 
set. Thinking that was the default, but not sure).


Further thoughts:
1. Could it be that your download isn’t being directed/specified to 
the proper place? Maybe not since the 1px file link is there.

2. Does a restart of the app or the machine make a difference

MM Preferences>General>Default Downloads Folder>select/specify your 
download folder location (name/location), including a sub-folder. Note 
that in the Menu page there is a checkbox to “Insert file link when 
removing an attachment.” That may have something to do with what you 
see. Mine uses the AppleOS default Downloads and no sub-folder. The 
checkbox is left on.


Have a go at those settings.

My version is r5895, but I think those settings are the same in the 
release version.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 7 May 2022, at 10:36, Randall Gellens wrote:

Using the "Download" (not "Download All") button in the message 
display, MM still downloads 1 pixel images and then warns that it did 
so. Is there a way to download just the "real" images and not the 
obvious trackers (especially the 1 pixel ones)?


--Randall
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Re: [MlMt] Download Images still downloads 1 pixel ones

2022-05-07 Thread Henry Seiden

Hello Randall,

I use the download feature all the time to get single images (not 
Download All) and get the full item in my Downloads folder where it was 
set. Thinking that was the default, but not sure).


Further thoughts:
1. Could it be that your download isn’t being directed/specified to 
the proper place? Maybe not since the 1px file link is there.

2. Does a restart of the app or the machine make a difference

MM Preferences>Default Downloads Folder>select/specify the folder 
location (name/location), including a sub-folder. Note that in the Menu 
page there is a checkbox to “Insert file link when removing an 
attachment.” That may have something to do with what you see. Mine is 
checked by default.


Have a go at those settings.

My version is r5895, but I think those settings are the same in the 
release version.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 7 May 2022, at 10:36, Randall Gellens wrote:

Using the "Download" (not "Download All") button in the message 
display, MM still downloads 1 pixel images and then warns that it did 
so. Is there a way to download just the "real" images and not the 
obvious trackers (especially the 1 pixel ones)?


--Randall
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[MlMt] Download Images still downloads 1 pixel ones

2022-05-07 Thread Randall Gellens
Using the "Download" (not "Download All") button in the message display, 
MM still downloads 1 pixel images and then warns that it did so. Is 
there a way to download just the "real" images and not the obvious 
trackers (especially the 1 pixel ones)?


--Randall
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[MlMt] MailMate Saved Searches (r5895) [Kudos]

2022-05-07 Thread Henry Seiden

Hello All,

I’ve seen some complaints about searches and locating the items. Also 
have seen Benny make some strides in updates to the search process.


So for a test, tried to find a specific group of email I get regularly 
to deal with using a saved search. Wanted to search for and deal with  
certain email, by subject line or generally, that meet the criteria, 
located in my Archived mail, select them and trash ‘em. The trashing 
part is unscripted (E.G., a manual operation), although I suppose that 
could be automated as well.


So I made and saved a search by simply typing in the criteria. The basic 
search criteria was entered in the search selection box on the main 
page. Then the save menu appears with the search results. When saved, it 
auto-creates a smart mailbox (located in “All Message Subparts” 
folder) as a smart mailbox, with the filled in search definitions - 
Mailboxes, Conditions,Rules. It can be further edited, retitled, etc. I 
retitled and narrowed the search criteria to the mailbox location I knew 
about just to narrow the criteria. Since the subject was exact and 
unique it wasn’t necessary… Just playing. Now it a smart mailbox I 
can use by a click instead of retyping.


For me, using Search from the Mailmate window to the smart mailbox 
creation process works great. In the future to trim these regular 
emails, I can go to the smart Mailbox to see the activity regularly and 
decide when or if to delete the resulting search!


Kudos for a smooth, simple process. There is a lot more detail and 
suggestions on searching in the Help menu: View>Toolbar Search. The 
above is the way I was comfortable with. YMMV.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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