Re: [MlMt] white numbers in menu bar counter

2023-03-14 Thread Glenn Parker

Here is what a piece of my menubar looks like, with some useful context.

![](cid:26CDF4A3-D205-4A2C-B509-BEFE070413A8@comcast.net "Screen Shot 
2023-03-14 at 23.49.33.png")


On 14 Mar 2023, at 16:45, Henry Seiden wrote:


Glenn,

Mine are black on grey and I’m happy with that. Attached 6K file. 
Have not tweaked it since installation many versions ago.



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Re: [MlMt] white numbers in menu bar counter

2023-03-14 Thread John Cooper

Menu bar counters, Henry. Keep up.

Henry Seiden wrote (at 1:45 PM on Tuesday, March 14, 2023):


Glenn,

Mine are black on grey and I’m happy with that. Attached 6K file. 
Have not tweaked it since installation many versions ago.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 14 Mar 2023, at 16:13, Glenn Parker wrote:


On 14 Mar 2023, at 10:37, Shoshanna Green wrote:

Just updated to 5950 on my iMac running Big Sur 11.7.2, and the 
number in my menu bar counter has turned white, which makes it 
impossible to read against the light gray of the menu bar itself. Is 
there a way to adjust this? (I tried all four counters; they have 
different color circles around the number, but the number is always 
white.)


I think the counter digits were always white. What has changed is the 
oval background for the counters. It used to be a solid color, but 
now it is a hollow oval outline with color on the border and a 
transparent interior. Personally, I like this because the vivid, 
solid background blobs were out of character with the rest of the 
menubar icons, but I use dark mode for everything so I find it is 
still legible. I found that the background colors can be tweaked by 
messing with the “hidden” preferences, but I have found any way 
to adjust the foreground color.


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Re: [MlMt] white numbers in menu bar counter

2023-03-14 Thread Henry Seiden

Glenn,

Mine are black on grey and I’m happy with that. Attached 6K file. Have 
not tweaked it since installation many versions ago.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 14 Mar 2023, at 16:13, Glenn Parker wrote:


On 14 Mar 2023, at 10:37, Shoshanna Green wrote:

Just updated to 5950 on my iMac running Big Sur 11.7.2, and the 
number in my menu bar counter has turned white, which makes it 
impossible to read against the light gray of the menu bar itself. Is 
there a way to adjust this? (I tried all four counters; they have 
different color circles around the number, but the number is always 
white.)


I think the counter digits were always white. What has changed is the 
oval background for the counters. It used to be a solid color, but now 
it is a hollow oval outline with color on the border and a transparent 
interior. Personally, I like this because the vivid, solid background 
blobs were out of character with the rest of the menubar icons, but I 
use dark mode for everything so I find it is still legible. I found 
that the background colors can be tweaked by messing with the 
“hidden” preferences, but I have found any way to adjust the 
foreground color.


Glenn P. Parker
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Re: [MlMt] Ghost messages in Drafts folder

2023-03-14 Thread Glenn Parker

On 13 Mar 2023, at 5:02, Karl Erik Jessen wrote:

it is not a feature I would expect in a mail-CLIENT. In my mind it 
only makes sense in a mail-SERVERs


The logic doesn’t work that way, though, because once an SMTP server 
receives a message, it’s on its way.


The only way to have precise delayed transmission is for an email client 
to hold off on submitting it. Naturally, there may be other delays in 
the pipeline once a message is submitted, but those are simply out of 
our control.


In the same vein, you wouldn’t give a piece of snail mail to the Post 
Office and then ask them to sit on it for a day before processing it. 
They would probably just hand your envelope back to you and suggest that 
you come back tomorrow.


Philosophically speaking, dividing the email world into “clients and 
servers” is a subtle logical trap. In practice, it’s all just a just 
bunch of agents making connections and exchanging information using 
established protocols.


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Re: [MlMt] white numbers in menu bar counter

2023-03-14 Thread Glenn Parker

On 14 Mar 2023, at 10:37, Shoshanna Green wrote:

Just updated to 5950 on my iMac running Big Sur 11.7.2, and the number 
in my menu bar counter has turned white, which makes it impossible to 
read against the light gray of the menu bar itself. Is there a way to 
adjust this? (I tried all four counters; they have different color 
circles around the number, but the number is always white.)


I think the counter digits were always white. What has changed is the 
oval background for the counters. It used to be a solid color, but now 
it is a hollow oval outline with color on the border and a transparent 
interior. Personally, I like this because the vivid, solid background 
blobs were out of character with the rest of the menubar icons, but I 
use dark mode for everything so I find it is still legible. I found that 
the background colors can be tweaked by messing with the “hidden” 
preferences, but I have found any way to adjust the foreground color.


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Re: [MlMt] Using iCloud Keychain for account info

2023-03-14 Thread Antonio Leding
All of my email account passwords are in the local login keychain file 
(`~/Library/Keychains/login.keychain-db`).  On my systems, even if 
iCloud Keychain is enabled, Mailmate still stores and reads the 
passwords in the local keychain file.


This is what led to my OP - to check if this behavior is the same for 
other Mailmate users or if others see Mailmate using the iCloud 
Keychain…


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On 13 Mar 2023, at 13:20, Henry Seiden wrote:

That’s a no for me. I recently migrated and was not able to recall 
my passwords from anywhere on the new systems although most other 
settings came in, the account passwords didn’t.


I didn’t try to confirm which, if any, keychain had them inside just 
that MailMate wouldn’t read passwords. If you confirm which keychain 
it is that MM uses, please let us know. Hopefully it’s the same one 
that normally carries the Internet Account Passwords.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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E: infotechworksprocom
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On 13 Mar 2023, at 15:52, Antonio Leding wrote:

Are you able to store your email passwords in the iCloud Keychain and 
Mailmate is able to access them 
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Re: [MlMt] Ghost messages in Drafts folder

2023-03-14 Thread Carlos Moffat
Hi Karl,

On 13 Mar 2023, at 5:02, Karl Erik Jessen wrote:

> On 12 Mar 2023, at 20:06, John Cooper wrote:
>
>> I don't know what's triggering the messages, but if you don't use the "Send 
>> Later" functionality, I would disable this kind of message:
>>
>> defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSendLaterWarningEnabled -bool NO
>
> Thanks John this did the trick.
>
> And No, I am not using "Send later", and frankly it is not a feature I would 
> expect in a mail-CLIENT. In my mind it only makes sense in a mail-SERVERs
>

As a prolific generator of typos and sometimes a (too) trigger-happy user of 
the “send” button, I have set up an automatic 2 minute “send later” to all my 
outgoing email so I have time to fix or take back an email I just “sent”.

Best,
Carlos


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[MlMt] Read state not syncing

2023-03-14 Thread Carlos Moffat
Hi,

I’m having an issue with a work Gmail account, where the read state of emails 
is not syncing between Gmail & MailMate (I can confirm this with the gmail web 
interface and my iOS client, it works fine there). I have another, non-Gmail 
account which works fine.

I’m running 1.14 (5937).

I searched the archives and I found this report by Brett Terpstra:

https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg02485.html

But as it’s almost 10 years old, I’m reluctant to try the suggested solution, 
which was to use:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmEnableKeywordsCheckInIDLEForGmail -bool YES

Any ideas?

Best,
Carlos
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[MlMt] white numbers in menu bar counter

2023-03-14 Thread Shoshanna Green
Just updated to 5950 on my iMac running Big Sur 11.7.2, and the number in my 
menu bar counter has turned white, which makes it impossible to read against 
the light gray of the menu bar itself. Is there a way to adjust this? (I tried 
all four counters; they have different color circles around the number, but the 
number is always white.)

Shoshanna Green (she/her)
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[MlMt] SMTP Errors - M365 Account

2023-03-14 Thread Chuck
Hello,

I’m managing multiple accounts in Mailmate.  I have my own M365 account that 
I’m the admin of and have always had problems with the account.  I have a 
separate account with a client that I consult with and use Davmail in M365.


I’ve had nothing but problems with the Account that I administer and the 
problems have only been with Mailmate.  I’ve ruled everything out by using 
Thunderbird without problem and have even changed to using Davmail on the 
account that I administer.  I’m still having issues.  When I go into edit the 
IMAP account I find that the password is blank and username is greyed out in 
the SMTP server configuration.

Am I missing something here?  All signs are pointing to a Mailmate and this 
point I’ve spent way too much time on this.  Thanks in advance for your help.


Chuck
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