Re: [MlMt] There's a NEW official Test Version (6015)
On 28 Dec 2023, at 14:14, Charlie Clark wrote: > On 28 Dec 2023, at 12:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > >> Charlie: Whether or not the above reveals anything, write me via “Help > >> Send Feedback” in order to debug this issue. > > Will give it another go but it didn't get that far last time so nothing to > send. I just meant you should send me a message with the working revision of MailMate, e.g. including output from the Terminal and/or the most recent crash report. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] There's a NEW official Test Version (6015)
On 28 Dec 2023, at 12:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > Charlie: Whether or not the above reveals anything, write me via “Help > Send > Feedback” in order to debug this issue. Will give it another go but it didn't get that far last time so nothing to send. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Sengelsweg 34 Düsseldorf D- 40489 Tel: +49-203-746000 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] From "XXX via mailmate"
Benny, Many thanks for the reaction & input. I can perfectly live in this “via-world”, even better since I now understand the “root-cause”( anyhow prefer this to the meta one ;-) ). Our very best wishes, that 2024 might bring you health, happiness and more then you wish for. Kindest regards, Marc On 21 Dec 2023, at 19:38, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 20 Dec 2023, at 4:55, Quinn Comendant via mailmate wrote: On 19 Dec 2023, at 16:06, Bill Cole wrote: Mailman modifies the "From" header of messages sent from domains which would otherwise be widely rejected […] I won't try to pick apart the precise details for this list. Perhaps Benny can explain the specific rules. Mailman checks the DMARC policy published to the DNS TXT records of the domain in the "From" header of the original message. If the policy is 'p=reject' or 'p=quarantine', Mailman may modify the "From" header to use the list's email address or the server's hostname to prevent rejection due to DMARC, SPF, or DKIM checks. Bill and Quinn are correct. The “via” is a workaround for DMARC-issues with the mailing list. This is one of those subjects where I feel like I have to start over every time I want to understand the details of what's going on ;-) It doesn't treat all senders the same because some people self-host their email domain and don't use DKIM or SPF. Ironically, the mailing list server for MailMate is self-hosted (by me) and it has only been using SPF. This seems to have been a serious problem with Gmail addresses (I think many/most of them have been thrown off the list by MailMan by now). Hopefully, the changes I've made today (on the server) means that DKIM will work going forward. That should make Google happy: https://blog.google/products/gmail/gmail-security-authentication-spam-protection/ This will NOT solve the problem which makes the use of “via” necessary for some correspondents. If I understand it correctly then a standard solution does exist now, but it's not a high priority for me to make that work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticated_Received_Chain -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] There's a NEW official Test Version (6015)
On 28 Dec 2023, at 12:01, MM_Arc via mailmate wrote: Have you tried starting MM from Terminal to see what you get. To be clear, do this by opening a Terminal window and executing this command: /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate Charlie: Whether or not the above reveals anything, write me via “Help > Send Feedback” in order to debug this issue. 6015 is stable for us on quite a range of MacOS’s so something might be lurking in the dark on your side. That's good to know. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] There's a NEW official Test Version (6015)
Hello Charlie, What MacOS are you on? Have you tried starting MM from Terminal to see what you get. 6015 is stable for us on quite a range of MacOS’s so something might be lurking in the dark on your side. Regards, Marc On 23 Dec 2023, at 17:34, Charlie Clark wrote: Won't start for me after the update. So, I'll just go back to the previous official test release. Thanks for all for hard will Benny and god jul! ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
