Re: [MlMt] Find duplicate mails
On 19 Jun 2023, at 6:10, Marc ARC via mailmate wrote: > Just tested r5965 > > Can be found down on the page > [https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/) > > With this version I feel that “Select duplicates” is behaving correctly. Hi, Thanks for mentioning this. I didn't know there was a new version. In 5965, selecting duplicates does something again! While it doesn't find duplicates in _some_ of my archived mail folders (where it's obvious there are duplicate messages), in other folders it does. This is a much-welcome improvement. Best regards, MH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Find duplicate mails
If it actually ends up working for you, please report back, because it doesn't work for me ... MH On 17 Jun 2023, at 9:10, Marc ARC via mailmate wrote: > Alain, > > Thanks for the hint! Never noticed it, but here also greyed out . . > > Merci > > > Marc > > On 17 Jun 2023, at 17:39, aisrael wrote: > >> Under the Edit menu there is a Select Duplicates function, which >> unfortunately in my case is greyed. Maybe it can be of some use? >> >> Alain >> >> >> >> On 17 Jun 2023, at 16:46, Marc ARC via mailmate wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Anybody an idea on how I can find duplicate mails in MailMate ? >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> >>> Marc >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!v8kolOMaEvutcWs7DMLuqBBPmZJruxwImJqmjlehY483JG4TfjuK4zCG4NKmjE6GreYUGNvn2j8XUfkVD8F3ug$ > >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Selecting duplicates
For whatever it's worth, I tried to use the Select Duplicates command in MailMate version 5964, but nothing has changed; it still doesn't do anything as far as I can tell. I've tried in both a Sources folder and in a local archive (offline) folder containing obvious duplicates. So, I'm still hoping to hear from someone about whether it works for them, and any thoughts about why it might be failing for me or what I'm doing wrong. Best regards, MH On 12 Apr 2023, at 16:06, Michael Hucka wrote: > I have a tremendous number of duplicates in my mail archives, and have been > trying to use the "Select duplicates" command, but without any success. (The > duplicates are unambiguous; they can be easily identified by the fact they > have identical message ID's.) When I use the command, nothing is selected in > the mailbox. > > I know "Select duplicates" has worked for me in the past, many years ago, but > at some point it seems to have stopped working. I'm currently running version > 1.14 (build 5937). > > Does it work for anyone? Am I doing it wrong? > > MH > -- > Mike Hucka, Ph.D. (he/him/his) > mhu...@caltech.edu -- http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~mhucka > California Institute of Technology ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Showing the URL on hover
Update: running MailMate version 5964 has solved the show-url-on-hover problem. My thanks to everyone! MH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Showing the URL on hover
OH! This looks vaguely familiar. I probably learned this some years ago but forgot it since then ... Anyway, thanks! MH On 18 Apr 2023, at 14:16, Raza Rizvi wrote: > You can hold down the ALT key before or while looking at the MailMate menu > item (the one to the left of the File menu) > > Raza > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Showing the URL on hover
On 17 Apr 2023, at 19:06, Gavan Schneider wrote: > This was an active list topic a little while ago and was resolved with a > MailMate “test” update, so the URL hovering feature now works perfectly on my > system — > > My system: MailMate, build 5964 — macOS Ventura 13.2.1/arm64/iMac21,1/8 Thanks for pointing this out. I'm running 5937, which seems to be the latest beta release and the only version I can find at https://freron.com/download/. How do you get version 5964? MH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Showing the URL on hover
I think MailMate used to show me the URL of a link when I hovered over a link in the viewer window, but now it no longer does that. I must have pressed a keystroke to change a setting or something -- I don't know what. Does this feature sound familiar to anyone? How can I turn it back on? MH -- Mike Hucka, Ph.D. (he/him/his) mhu...@caltech.edu -- http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~mhucka California Institute of Technology ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Selecting duplicates
I have a tremendous number of duplicates in my mail archives, and have been trying to use the "Select duplicates" command, but without any success. (The duplicates are unambiguous; they can be easily identified by the fact they have identical message ID's.) When I use the command, nothing is selected in the mailbox. I know "Select duplicates" has worked for me in the past, many years ago, but at some point it seems to have stopped working. I'm currently running version 1.14 (build 5937). Does it work for anyone? Am I doing it wrong? MH -- Mike Hucka, Ph.D. (he/him/his) mhu...@caltech.edu -- http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~mhucka California Institute of Technology ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Copying a message
Hello MailMate users, I sometimes want to copy a message and paste it into another application (usually OmniOutliner, sometimes a plain-text document) -- basically something similar to what you might expect if you typed command-c when a message is selected in the message list and content was copied to the clipboard so that it can be pasted elsewhere. I'd like to get both the basic headers (from, to, subject, date) and the body, preferring plain-text formatting. There doesn't seem to be a built-in MailMate command to do this, unless I'm just overlooking something really obvious. Is there a way? Failing that, has anyone implemented anything like this already, perhaps in the form of a bundle? I looked through https://github.com/mailmate but nothing looks like like it would do it. Best regards, MH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Prevent displaying content of multiple messages?
Ah, fabulous, that did it. Thanks! MH On 24 Oct 2018, at 9:55, pleasespa...@posteo.net wrote: I asked for this some time ago. Put this in terminal. Works like a charm! defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmMaximumMessagesDisplayed -integer 1 On 24 Oct 2018, at 12:52, Michael Hucka wrote: I use the "widescreen" layout in MailMate. When I select a single message in the message list, the message view pane displays the message header and body. However, when I select multiple messages in the message list pane, MailMate displays the bodies of multiple messages. This wouldn't be a problem except that if select a whole bunch of messages, MailMate still does that, and becomes sluggish and even hangs for a time [1], probably because it's working hard at formatting the different messages bodies. Is there a setting that would let me prevent this behavior, i.e., make it so that if more than one message is selected, it won't attempt to display multiple bodies? [1] On a 4-core, 4.2 Ghz iMac 2017 with 32 GB RAM, so not for lack of computing resources. Best regards, MH -- Mike Hucka, Ph.D. -- mhu...@caltech.edu -- http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~mhucka Dept. of Computing + Mathematical Sciences, California Institute of Technology ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Prevent displaying content of multiple messages?
I use the "widescreen" layout in MailMate. When I select a single message in the message list, the message view pane displays the message header and body. However, when I select multiple messages in the message list pane, MailMate displays the bodies of multiple messages. This wouldn't be a problem except that if select a whole bunch of messages, MailMate still does that, and becomes sluggish and even hangs for a time [1], probably because it's working hard at formatting the different messages bodies. Is there a setting that would let me prevent this behavior, i.e., make it so that if more than one message is selected, it won't attempt to display multiple bodies? [1] On a 4-core, 4.2 Ghz iMac 2017 with 32 GB RAM, so not for lack of computing resources. Best regards, MH -- Mike Hucka, Ph.D. -- mhu...@caltech.edu -- http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~mhucka Dept. of Computing + Mathematical Sciences, California Institute of Technology ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Best way to auto-archive trash in gmail?
On 16 Jul 2018, at 8:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I'm looking for a way to preserve all my mail. Does anyone have a scheme to preserve mail permanently rather than let it be deleted? For example, is there a way to have MailMate (or another piece of software) periodically and automatically move mail out of the Trash into a folder (or even another imap server) for archiving? I think the feature you are looking for is “Mailbox ▸ Mailbox Type”. Create a mailbox for deleted messages, for example, named “Deleted Messages” within the Gmail account and then use “Mailbox ▸ Mailbox Type” to make MailMate use it when you delete messages. This way Gmail won't auto-delete the emails since this only happens for “[Gmail]/Trash”. Gmail just considers “Deleted Messages” mailbox to be just like any other mailbox (or “label” as Google likes to name them). Hi Benny, Thanks for your reply and explanation. I've been trying this scheme this for the last week. I had to remember to configure my iPhone's mail app in a compatible way, but it all seems to work as expected. This is great :-) I discovered that the Gmail "Spam" folder also appears to have a 30-day auto-deletion feature, like the Trash. I might have to find a way to regularly move mail out of that folder into the archive folder, but it's not a big deal. Thanks again, MH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Best way to auto-archive trash in gmail?
Did I do something in a past exchange to trigger this rather hostile reply? I honestly don't remember, but if I did, I apologize. I'm also not really sure why you presume to tell others on this list how they should manage their mail; you're free to do as you wish, but you should realize that others may have workflows that attempt to address other needs. Some of those workflows may be based on even longer experiences than yours. (My archives go back to 1987 and I currently have 1,412,484 messages, as of a few moments ago, although to be fair, some the 1990's are probably Usenet postings due to using an Emacs-based mail & news reader for a long time.) Maybe you're better than me at deciding what can really be "just deleted" on the spot, but after many years of trying, I've decided it's better for me to keep everything (yes, including what is clearly spam). Anyway, I do appreciate the information about the nuance of an Archive in MM; this is something that is worth investigating. MH On 15 Jul 2018, at 19:46, Bill Cole wrote: On 15 Jul 2018, at 15:30 (-0400), Michael Hucka wrote: I recently had to switch to Gmail as my imap server [1]. It seems that Gmail auto-deletes mail from the trash after 30 days. This is a good policy which benefits the community of people running and using mail systems with fewer resources than Google by encouraging basic email hygiene. The Trash mailbox exists to reduce accidental unrecoverable deletions, which would otherwise be common. It probably doesn't matter with GMail, but many less huge mail systems differentiate storage models between different special-purpose mailbox types, optimizing INBOX and Trash for heavy churn of relatively few messages and others for many messages that are rarely deleted. Using Trash as a temporary holding area is a good habit to have. I am not an archive-hater: I have live access to half a million messages in my personal archives accumulated over 25 years. Trash is not an archive: it is TRASH. MailMate has built-in support for that distinction. I'm looking for a way to preserve all my mail. Does anyone have a scheme to preserve mail permanently rather than let it be deleted? For example, is there a way to have MailMate (or another piece of software) periodically and automatically move mail out of the Trash into a folder (or even another imap server) for archiving? Create an IMAP mailbox and tell MailMate that it is your Archive mailbox. Archive is a special-purpose mailbox type like Deleted Messages, Sent Messages, and Junk. Train yourself to use "Delete" and "Archive" selectively. Don't delete messages yo want to archive, don't archive messages that really should just be deleted. There are some things you can do with Smart Mailboxes and Rules to automate archives but they are limited by MM not having automated mailbox creation. I'm a long-time unix & mac user and a software developer too, so I'm not afraid of command lines or daemons or writing some software myself. If someone has already done this or can advise about dead-ends to avoid, I'd appreciate the tips. If you retain backups of ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP then you are retaining recoverable copies of all mail. If you don't want to keep your archives on the IMAP server, you can keep them in whatever repository you use for your backups. Best regards, MH [1] To avoid the inevitable snarky "don't use gmail" comments, let me just say I don't have a choice in the matter for the time being. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Currently Seeking Steadier Work: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Best way to auto-archive trash in gmail?
I recently had to switch to Gmail as my imap server [1]. It seems that Gmail auto-deletes mail from the trash after 30 days. I'm looking for a way to preserve all my mail. Does anyone have a scheme to preserve mail permanently rather than let it be deleted? For example, is there a way to have MailMate (or another piece of software) periodically and automatically move mail out of the Trash into a folder (or even another imap server) for archiving? I'm a long-time unix & mac user and a software developer too, so I'm not afraid of command lines or daemons or writing some software myself. If someone has already done this or can advise about dead-ends to avoid, I'd appreciate the tips. Best regards, MH [1] To avoid the inevitable snarky "don't use gmail" comments, let me just say I don't have a choice in the matter for the time being. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to keep all threads expanded?
On this matter from last month: I wanted to confirm that using the first preference described below makes MailMate behave as I hoped -- it always keeps the threads expanded. Thank you for implementing this! MH On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 15:23:56 +0200, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 19 Apr 2018, at 18:15, Antonio Santos wrote: > >> And another one! > > Please stop :-) > > Try the latest test release which includes a first shot at providing > an auto-expand feature. It has two options: > > defaults write com.freron.MailMate > MmAutomaticallyExpandThreadsEnabled -bool YES > defaults write com.freron.MailMate > MmAutomaticallyExpandOnlyWhenCounted -bool YES > > The first one makes MailMate always expand all threads. Combined with > the second one, only threads with emails “counted” are expanded. That > might seem strange, but it means that if you have a mailbox with an > unread count in the mailbox list then only threads with unread > messages are going to be expanded (or the parts of the threads with > unread messages). > > New messages also trigger auto-expansion. > > I might still change how this works. In particular, these features > could be more independent of each other. > > I haven't tested this much and there are likely to be bugs. > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
