Re: [MlMt] 2nd instance of MaiMate
Depends on the VM technology, e.g. VMWare Fusion, Virtual Box, Parallels. We use VMWare Fusion for stuff that absolutely must run on Windows 10, in our case micro controller programmers. We use VMWare Fusion and the main resource limit for us is the memory but this is not all allocated at once. The best doc I can find is older and refers to VMWare Workstation https://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/performance_mem_ws.html but I have no reason to think that this has changed. Whilst it’s a hack to have to run a separate VM just for Mailmate, it may be worth trying Virtual Box as it’s free (which given it’s now Oracle, is amazing). Can’t promise it will work the way you want, but I know that many companies use it where I work. No experience of Parallels and I don’t like subscription models. Rob On 18 May 2020, at 7:41, Marc ARC wrote: Bill, Thanks for the idea, I’ll look into the different user. Not a big fan of a VM since it is resource intensive. Marc On 17 May 2020, at 22:15, Bill Cole wrote: On 17 May 2020, at 5:59, Marc ARC wrote: Hello, Anybody any idea ? Do it in a VM? Do it in a different user account? This is really a problem with the macOS application architecture. It isn't designed to support multiple instances of the same app run by the same user. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Moving complete folder tree from one IMAP server to another
I wasn’t aware that imapsync was produced by Google. I can state that I moved 40GB of mail data around with it when I changed mail servers and it worked very well indeed. Rob On 6 May 2020, at 18:15, Randall Gellens wrote: I haven't used Google's tools (and, speaking personally, Google is not the most standards-compliant organization, so I'd probably use them mostly for moving mail to or from Google rather than between non-Google systems), but I have used Dovecot's dsync tool to move between different IMAP servers. See https://wiki2.dovecot.org/Migration/Dsync --Randall On 5 May 2020, at 11:47, Alexandre Takacs wrote: Google Imapsync Very powerful tool for this type of use. On 5 May 2020, at 16:39, Fritz Slater via mailmate wrote: I would like to move/copy a mailbox tree (i.e. mailboxes that contain other mailboxes) from one IMAP server account to another. I tried just Option-drag and only the top mailbox was copied. It is empty on the new server as it only contained other mailboxes. How can I accomplish moving the entire tree? Thanks. -Jon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate A. Takacs Augicom SA +41 (22) 301 16 00 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
You can roll your own with Message-In-A-Box (MIAB). https://mailinabox.email/ We use it on a VPS Ubuntu 16.04 server. Yes we know it should be on Ubuntu 18.04 but nobody has OpenVZ containers for Ubuntu 18.04. Takes about 60 mins to do from start to finish, most of that time is setting the server up. The server becomes an appliance and it just works for us. It sorts out certificates and mail group aliasing. We also run simple web servers (no PHP) easily and quickly. We have the smallest VPS plan and it's fine. You do need to be familiar with the command line and to be happy to run your own server, but I spend no more than 10 mins a month managing it. Rob On 26 Nov 2019, at 17:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] VPN conflicts
Peter, All of the information about you was found in two quick web addresses checks. I can see that somebody else already runs PIA, so I'd suggest you follow their advice first and if that doesn't work, then do my stuff. The fact it works for another person manes it should work for you. Let us know how it goes. Rob On 23 Sep 2019, at 15:54, Peter Borsella wrote: Thank you gain, Rob. Your quite the detective, and I’m sorry about not giving more details. Your guess is right about the PIA tool, and you’re also on the money about Gmail as Florida. I’ll go ahead and run your additional investigative steps and get the results posted. It may take me a bit of time (I’m also simultaneously working). ...Peter On 23 Sep 2019, at 10:33, rob.mailm...@robertwillett.com wrote: Peter, You don't need to be a network engineer to get VPN's to work. Indeed my 78 year old mother recently setup a VPN so she could access location restricted TV series content by herself. I have to admit I was a little surprised but hey ho Anyway the key to getting help is to provide concise (but complete) information in as simple a summary as possible. Including specific information such as the names of the tool helps, e.g. Private Internet Access tool doesn't give much to go on, if I search on that, I get lots of VPN's that could be that, but none that is definitely that. I'm guessing your service is from https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ but thats a guess. Noe the fact that you have outbound traffic issues makes me assume that your network provider is external to your local network, and that you possibly use an external mail provider, gmail is a guess but could be anything. If I check your website, you're possibly based in Florida but originally in Pennsylvania? Anyway, a quick check on your MX record seems to indicate that you're using Google as your mail provider https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3awinnowmanagement.com=toolpage# Mmm... now Google might have put restrictions on how you access your email account and you may have fallen foul of these. I have never used Google for email so am now wholly in the dark. What I'd first of all do is: Connection to 'whatsmyip.com' and see what IP address you are connecting to that website as. Write the address down. Then fire up your VPN and try and connect to 'whatsmyip.com' again and now see what it says. Write the address down. If you can't connect to whatsmyip.com then you have an outgoing fault and your VPN isn't working properly. You will get a while new IP address if your VPN is working. Open up a terminal window on your Mac. Got to Applications->Utilities->Terminal. Type in nslookup news.bbc.co.uk and cut and paste the output to a mail. If you have no issues connecting to whatsmyip.com, fire up mailmate, open up the Activity Window in Windows->Activity viewer and try and send an email. If it fails you should get an error log. Post all this into a mail we can see the error you are getting. Hope this helps. Rob On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:38, Peter Borsella wrote: Hello, Rob, I’m not much of a network engineer, so I’m expecting I’ll need to explore more about what’s going on as I simultaneously learn. I’m encouraged that you find it surprising that I’m having difficulty with my VPN, having thought it was “normal.” I’m using the PIA (Private Internet Access) tool. And, my problem is indeed related to outbound traffic, with Mailmate telling me that it can’t send messages, leaving them for re-attempts in my Draft folder. I then turn on the VPN, close Mailmate, launch again, the mail goes out without a hitch. If there’s any more details I can provide to assist in trouble shooting this, any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Peter On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:25, Rob Willett via mailmate wrote: Peter, Your issue is very unlikely to be Mailmate, but rather how your VPN is configured. I have 3 VPN providers as I have to have specific ones for specific clients. Things that come to mind: 1, As people have already said DNS may be one issue. You already have suggestions for this. 2. It may block outgoing traffic. You need to provide more information on the VPN you use to know if this is an issue. 3. You may your VPN doing some odd routing, so that stuff that should be internal is going externally. Unlikely but seen it happen. Your comment that using a VPN and having expected issues is not what I would expect at all. I would expect configuration issues with Tunnelblck (which for some reason hates me, mind you I hate it), but we use hardwired versions of that as well as Bitdefender and Viscosity. I like Viscosity :) More information helps here. Rob On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:08, Peter Borsella wrote: Thanks for the quick response. I’m not familiar with using this DNS, but now have something to research. On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:01, Robert Brenstein wrote: You may want to
Re: [MlMt] VPN conflicts
Peter, You don't need to be a network engineer to get VPN's to work. Indeed my 78 year old mother recently setup a VPN so she could access location restricted TV series content by herself. I have to admit I was a little surprised but hey ho Anyway the key to getting help is to provide concise (but complete) information in as simple a summary as possible. Including specific information such as the names of the tool helps, e.g. Private Internet Access tool doesn't give much to go on, if I search on that, I get lots of VPN's that could be that, but none that is definitely that. I'm guessing your service is from https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ but thats a guess. Noe the fact that you have outbound traffic issues makes me assume that your network provider is external to your local network, and that you possibly use an external mail provider, gmail is a guess but could be anything. If I check your website, you're possibly based in Florida but originally in Pennsylvania? Anyway, a quick check on your MX record seems to indicate that you're using Google as your mail provider https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3awinnowmanagement.com=toolpage# Mmm... now Google might have put restrictions on how you access your email account and you may have fallen foul of these. I have never used Google for email so am now wholly in the dark. What I'd first of all do is: Connection to 'whatsmyip.com' and see what IP address you are connecting to that website as. Write the address down. Then fire up your VPN and try and connect to 'whatsmyip.com' again and now see what it says. Write the address down. If you can't connect to whatsmyip.com then you have an outgoing fault and your VPN isn't working properly. You will get a while new IP address if your VPN is working. Open up a terminal window on your Mac. Got to Applications->Utilities->Terminal. Type in nslookup news.bbc.co.uk and cut and paste the output to a mail. If you have no issues connecting to whatsmyip.com, fire up mailmate, open up the Activity Window in Windows->Activity viewer and try and send an email. If it fails you should get an error log. Post all this into a mail we can see the error you are getting. Hope this helps. Rob On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:38, Peter Borsella wrote: Hello, Rob, I’m not much of a network engineer, so I’m expecting I’ll need to explore more about what’s going on as I simultaneously learn. I’m encouraged that you find it surprising that I’m having difficulty with my VPN, having thought it was “normal.” I’m using the PIA (Private Internet Access) tool. And, my problem is indeed related to outbound traffic, with Mailmate telling me that it can’t send messages, leaving them for re-attempts in my Draft folder. I then turn on the VPN, close Mailmate, launch again, the mail goes out without a hitch. If there’s any more details I can provide to assist in trouble shooting this, any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Peter On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:25, Rob Willett via mailmate wrote: Peter, Your issue is very unlikely to be Mailmate, but rather how your VPN is configured. I have 3 VPN providers as I have to have specific ones for specific clients. Things that come to mind: 1, As people have already said DNS may be one issue. You already have suggestions for this. 2. It may block outgoing traffic. You need to provide more information on the VPN you use to know if this is an issue. 3. You may your VPN doing some odd routing, so that stuff that should be internal is going externally. Unlikely but seen it happen. Your comment that using a VPN and having expected issues is not what I would expect at all. I would expect configuration issues with Tunnelblck (which for some reason hates me, mind you I hate it), but we use hardwired versions of that as well as Bitdefender and Viscosity. I like Viscosity :) More information helps here. Rob On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:08, Peter Borsella wrote: Thanks for the quick response. I’m not familiar with using this DNS, but now have something to research. On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:01, Robert Brenstein wrote: You may want to try using a different DNS provider when tunneling over VPN, like Google’s 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for example. Some VPN services have their own DNS as an option as well. On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:41, Peter Borsella wrote: Good Day, All, I am using a VPN tool on my Mac, and have experienced as might be expected that emails do not flow with the VPN active. However, are there any settings or workarounds that would still allow me to keep my VPN turned on while exchanging emails? Thanks...Peter Peter Borsella, President **Winnow Management** ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Peter Borsella, President **Winnow Management** PO Box 1046 Pompano Beach, FL 33061 Office: 954-784-3674 Mobile: 954
Re: [MlMt] VPN conflicts
Peter, Your issue is very unlikely to be Mailmate, but rather how your VPN is configured. I have 3 VPN providers as I have to have specific ones for specific clients. Things that come to mind: 1, As people have already said DNS may be one issue. You already have suggestions for this. 2. It may block outgoing traffic. You need to provide more information on the VPN you use to know if this is an issue. 3. You may your VPN doing some odd routing, so that stuff that should be internal is going externally. Unlikely but seen it happen. Your comment that using a VPN and having expected issues is not what I would expect at all. I would expect configuration issues with Tunnelblck (which for some reason hates me, mind you I hate it), but we use hardwired versions of that as well as Bitdefender and Viscosity. I like Viscosity :) More information helps here. Rob On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:08, Peter Borsella wrote: Thanks for the quick response. I’m not familiar with using this DNS, but now have something to research. On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:01, Robert Brenstein wrote: You may want to try using a different DNS provider when tunneling over VPN, like Google’s 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for example. Some VPN services have their own DNS as an option as well. On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:41, Peter Borsella wrote: Good Day, All, I am using a VPN tool on my Mac, and have experienced as might be expected that emails do not flow with the VPN active. However, are there any settings or workarounds that would still allow me to keep my VPN turned on while exchanging emails? Thanks...Peter Peter Borsella, President **Winnow Management** ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Peter Borsella, President **Winnow Management** PO Box 1046 Pompano Beach, FL 33061 Office: 954-784-3674 Mobile: 954-253-3761 Fax:954-301-5829 @pborsella Now available, Certified ScrumMaster for Industry! Head to our website for our full class schedule and early registration pricing! http://www.winnowmanagement.com CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any associated files contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
