Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
Glenn, Thank you very much for your reply. You are my only link to a possible solution. I’ve tried all I know to no avail, and Benny is not reachable (I hope he’s OK…). When I install MM 1.14 on my new Catalina volume with no migrated messages or settings, it progresses with the initial setup (it immediately asks for the first IMAP address). All seems normal. If I first copy the folder ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (7.4 GB) to the new Catalina volume, when I launch MM I see this error: https://imgur.com/drWkmhR Re-launching brings the same message. The Original path is identical for both Application Support/MailMate folders (Sierra and Catalina volumes). In the Catalina Get Info box I clicked on the “Select New Original…” button and navigated to the Catalina volume’s Messages.noindex folder. Just for grins. Same error when attempting to launch MM. Any help or even wild suggestions are welcome. I have no Mac email client and my thumbs are wearing out! Thanks, Dave > On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc0000 wrote: > >> I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual >> migration of needed apps. >> >> I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. >> >> I copied >> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate >> >> from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). > > By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the > “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. Does > that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex folder? > > Glenn P. Parker > glenn.par...@comcast.net > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Migrating MM
I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual migration of needed apps. I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. I copied ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). After launching MM and providing all the email account passwords, MM put up this message: “MailMate failed to save a file to disk” < https://imgur.com/a/jdBs3iI > Apparently there is an alias to the messages in the MailMate folder which can’t be resolved. I navigated to the old Sierra boot disk (while still booted into Catalina) and double-clicked on the alias. A System error message was displayed saying the original item couldn’t be located. Suggestions? I sent this to Benny but he seems to be not available. Thanks, Dave MailMate 1.12.2 (r5673) macOS 10.15.7 Catalina 2012 Intel mini quad i7, 16GB ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Verifying the MlMt installer’s integrity
Apple App Store and the like provide verification of all apps submitted for distribution from the store. For direct downloads such as the MailMate app, how do we verify that the file has not been tampered with? Is there a signature or hash that Benny can provide? I didn’t see any such on the download page. Thanks, Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] disabling gifs in received mail
You can’t disable a single GIF. You can only disable loading of all images—including GIFs. You don’t say what mail application you are using, but if it’s Apple Mail: In the Mail app, under the Mail menu, choose Preferences. On the Viewing tab, uncheck Load remote content in messages. This disables all graphics—images and GIFs in received emails. Dave > I've just received a message from a company that includes, in its signature, > an embedded gif (as a cid). Please, please tell me there's a way to stop it > from playing endlessly when I have the message open? Things moving on my > screen when I didn't explicitly authorize them to drive me bananas. > > Shoshanna Green (she/her) > shoshan...@gmail.com > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] mail archiving
> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:50 AM, John Doherty wrote: > > That Yahoo will give you 1 TB for free. That surprises me but could be true. I do not recommend using Yahoo mail for any mail service. I have had several Yahoo accounts for years. Last year I noticed that several thousand messages were suddenly gone. I emailed Yahoo support and their response was basically “What messages?”. They said that they have no record of any messages being deleted and stopped responding to my further communications. I’m considering my options and will choose a responsible service this year. Further to your question, here is a list of mail archiver services and applications. It comes from Randy Singer, author of some of The Macintosh Bible editions. Dave - - - You can store tens of thousands of e-mail messages within Mail without a noticeable hit on performance, but it’s not ideal. Folks who have many tens of thousands of old e-mail messages who want to save their old e-mails, and also have mail running as fast as possible, will archive their e-mail messages outside of Mail, usually with the assistance of an e-mail archiving program: http://www.macattorney.com/mail.html#itemthree The best e-mail archiving programs will set up a database so that you can search through you old e-mail messages instantly. With an IMAP account, this isn’t your only option. You can opt to download stuff from your IMAP server, archive it on your Mac, and delete it from your IMAP server. That only makes sense to me if you are running out of space on your mail provider’s server and you are being charged for it. May I recommend this e-book? Take Control of Apple Mail ($15) https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/apple-mail/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Location of settings folder?
I ended up using the Open command in Terminal. Typed “open” and then dragged my BS user folder onto the command line. When I pressed Return the folder opened in Finder with ~/Library accessible. My problem now is that I copied (Opt-drag) the com.freron.MailMate.plist file from the Big Sur ~/Library folder to the Sierra ~/Library folder and launched MM. It shows me the empty Account Settings panel. Since this file, as it’s listed in the BS ~/Library folder, has the exact date of my BS computer’s failure, I’m sure this is the right file. There are no files nor folders relating to freron or MM in the Application Support folder. Can someone please give me Benny’s email address? (Since I don’t have access to MM, I’m pounding out emails on my phone, which is limited re. list of contacts.) I think I’ve exhausted my options and it’s time for some 1-on-1 communication. Thanks, Dave > Dave, > > One way could check out, the copy with CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner), if you have > it or maybe a good excuse to get it as a demo. > > Or a similar product that works around the restriction altogether. That app > allows you to access the User Folder and select a file/group folder(s) to > copy/replace. Also you could port both the preferences and settings files at > the same time. > > I have not tried this copy on different vintages (from Big Sur to Sierra in > your example), so YMMV. > > Respectfully, > Henry Seiden > E: Techworks Pro E-mail > W: Techworks Pro Co. Home Page > > Techworks Pro Co. > Founder, Henry Seiden i...@techworkspro.com > > © 2022 techworkspro.com > > On Jan 23, 2023, at 21:32, davecc davec2...@gmail.com wrote: > > If I want to retrieve MM settings from a Big Sur boot volume that i cannot > boot from on this computer (Big Sur is not compatible on this new-to-me old > Intel mini that I’m installing Sierra on), how do I get access to the Library > folder in the Big Sur volume so to copy to the Sierra Library folder? > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Location of settings folder?
>> The Mac OS hides the ~/Library folder by default. To navigate to it, press >> the Option (Alt) key while you click to open the Finder's Go menu, and then >> select Library. Alternatively, in the Finder, click Go > Go to Folder, and >> then enter ~/Library. (The tilde is an OS placeholder for the current user's >> folder.) I have another question: If I want to retrieve MM settings from a Big Sur boot volume that i cannot boot from on this computer (Big Sur is not compatible on this new-to-me old Intel mini that I’m installing Sierra on), how do I get access to the Library folder in the Big Sur volume so to copy to the Sierra Library folder? Thanks, Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Location of settings folder?
>> I can’t find the user Library folder where these files are supposed to live. >> I presume it’s on the Data volume of the Mojave partition. >> >> Can someone please confirm where to find the MailMate plist files? > > The Mac OS hides the ~/Library folder by default. To navigate to it, press > the Option (Alt) key while you click to open the Finder's Go menu, and then > select Library. Alternatively, in the Finder, click Go > Go to Folder, and > then enter ~/Library. (The tilde is an OS placeholder for the current user's > folder.) > > The MailMate support files are in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/. Thank you John. I was aware of the hiding of Library but couldn’t recall how to get it. I thought it was a checkbox or such. Thanks for your help. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Location of settings folder?
I’m still trying to locate the plist files for MailMate so to copy from the Big Sur partition I used for more than a year (dont ask…) into the Mojave partition. I can’t find the user Library folder where these files are supposed to live. I presume it’s on the Data volume of the Mojave partition. Can someone please confirm where to find the MailMate plist files? Thanks, Dave I’m doing a manual install of MM on a “new to me” Mac. I’d like to copy the settings files to the new Mac from the old one, rather than create all those accounts from scratch. Where are the settings, accounts, registration and other parameters files kept? What folder are these in? Thanks, Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Location of settings folder?
I’m doing a manual install of MM on a “new to me” Mac. I’d like to copy the settings files to the new Mac from the old one, rather than create all those accounts from scratch. Where are the settings, accounts, registration and other parameters files kept? What folder are these in? Thanks, Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attaching free form notes to incoming messages?
I, also, would like this feature added to MailMate. Dave >> is there a way to add searchable free form notes to incoming messages? >> >> This is different to tagging and I didn't see anything in the manual that >> could be repurposed for this. > >> On 3 Jan 2023, at 23:22, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> >> in theory this could be implemented using the IMAP ANNOTATE extension >> specified in RFC 5257 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5257.html), but I >> don’t think many servers and clients support that. >> >> It’s an interesting idea, but unless it works inter-operably, I don’t think >> it makes much sense to add as a feature to MailMate. > > Mac Eudora had an "advanced" feature that allowed editing of received > messages. When enabled, there was an "Edit" icon on the toolbar. Clicking it > allowed editing of any part of the message. I used it to add notes in the > body of messages, or to modify or add header fields. When done, clicking the > "Edit" icon again saved the changes. Behind the scenes, Eudora used IMAP > APPEND to upload the edited message and IMAP DELETE/EXPUNGE to delete the > original message. Interoperable and very handy. I wish MailMate supported > this! > > --Randall > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Stop doubleclick from opening mailbox?
Right-click seems appropriate when a setting needs to be addressed. Double-click falls in the category of normal use of the app which shouldn’t bring up any kind of settings, IMO. Dave Me too. Dave > I'll second this question and request a functionality change if there's no > good answer. I often find myself opening mailbox edit windows when I merely > intended to click to activate MailMate when it is present in the background. > > Tracy Valleau wrote (at 8:33 AM on Friday, November 4, 2022): > >> I looked, but can't find it. I'd like to stop double-clicking on a mailbox >> from performing "Edit mailbox..." >> Can that be done? >> Tracy >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Stop doubleclick from opening mailbox?
Me too. Dave > I'll second this question and request a functionality change if there's no > good answer. I often find myself opening mailbox edit windows when I merely > intended to click to activate MailMate when it is present in the background. > > Tracy Valleau wrote (at 8:33 AM on Friday, November 4, 2022): > >> I looked, but can't find it. I'd like to stop double-clicking on a mailbox >> from performing "Edit mailbox..." >> >> Can that be done? >> >> Tracy >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft messages are not editable
I was wrong in this. Not all draft messages are not editable; some are, some not. But this does not correlate to whether it was created on my iPhone or the Mac mini. (I just created some test messages in both devices—1 on the iPhone, 2 on the mac; all are editable. Tomorrow they may have changed to not editable.) Dave Sometimes, yes. Regardless, the behavior in MM when I open all drafts is the same: not editable. Dave > Is it possible that you saved the draft on another computer? > > On 13 Oct 2022, at 1:47, davecc wrote: > > When I double-click on the header in the Drafts directory, it opens but is > not a composer window, just a read-only window. > > Dave > > > I usually double-click the one-line header summary to get the draft to open > in a composer window. > > -Eric > > On 12 Oct 2022, at 14:24, Dave Carpenter wrote: > > I’m running v5852. > > Hello all, > When I save a draft message, it appears in the Drafts directory. When I open > that message it is not editable, nor is the Send icon visible. It’s like it > is a Received message. I can right-click and choose “Edit as New Message…” > and then it is both editable and sendable. > > But this is not the design, is it? Am I the only one that sees this MlMt > behavior? > > When I check for updates, I’m told I’m up-to-date. > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft messages are not editable
“Drafts” is checked. Dave > Can you check if you have set the mailbox type to "Drafts" for the draft > folder? > Right Click on your "Drafts" folder/mailbox > Go to "Mailbox Type" > Check if it set to "Draft" > (If you checked it on your "global" drafts folder then it may be grayed and > unselectable - try to change it on the draft mailbox in the "Sources" section) > > On 12 Oct 2022, at 20:24, Dave Carpenter wrote: > > I’m running v5852. > > Hello all, > When I save a draft message, it appears in the Drafts directory. When I open > that message it is not editable, nor is the Send icon visible. It’s like it > is a Received message. I can right-click and choose “Edit as New Message…” > and then it is both editable and sendable. > > But this is not the design, is it? Am I the only one that sees this MlMt > behavior? > > When I check for updates, I’m told I’m up-to-date. > > Thanks, > Dave___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Draft messages are not editable
When I double-click on the header in the Drafts directory, it opens but is not a composer window, just a read-only window. Dave > I usually double-click the one-line header summary to get the draft to open > in a composer window. > > -Eric > > On 12 Oct 2022, at 14:24, Dave Carpenter wrote: > > I’m running v5852. > > Hello all, > When I save a draft message, it appears in the Drafts directory. When I open > that message it is not editable, nor is the Send icon visible. It’s like it > is a Received message. I can right-click and choose “Edit as New Message…” > and then it is both editable and sendable. > > But this is not the design, is it? Am I the only one that sees this MlMt > behavior? > > When I check for updates, I’m told I’m up-to-date. > > Thanks, > Dave___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Column doesn’t sort
In the Message Viewer, the Attachments column does not sort if I click on the icon for that column. Nothing happens. FYI, I’m using a prerelease. Thanks, Dave macOS 11.6 Big Sur MM pre 5819 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] r5820 - new message
Similar experience with version 5819 (2012 mini with Big Sur). I have 3 displays on this mini: 2 computer monitors connected directly—HDMI & miniDP, and a TV via 3rd-party USB-HDMI adapter. Whenever I change mirroring config or unplug one of the display, macOS reshuffles windows and my current MailMate message (or next message I open) opens halfway down the screen and is sized to half-screen. The message viewer window is likewise located in a non-standard location (not where I last put it). Until recently, the MailMate windows would relocate to another screen but in their “normal” place (where I last placed them). Quite annoying. This behavior change did not correspond with any system software updates (that I’m aware of), or MailMate update. I had installed this USB-HDMI adapter several months ago and didn’t experience this MailMate behavior change until the past 2(?) weeks. Dave > All I can say I see similar issues on my Macbook that I connect / disconnect > from a “docking” station. I guess MM gets “confused” as of what monitor is > actually attached to the machine. > I’m sure Benny will eventually chime in with the “correct” preference file to > edit / trash to recover functionality… > > On 3 Aug 2021, at 16:11, MM_Arc wrote: > > YES ! multiple monitors on a MacMini. > > Yesterday I physically disconnected one monitor but the issue persisted. > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] I bought another license
I stand corrected, Benny. Thank you for the correction. Dave > I just now bought a license for MailMate v2. > > Thanks!! > > I didn’t need to. Benny wrote me to tell me that the v1 license I bought > years ago is a lifetime license, good for all updates, even major ones (ie, > v2.0, v3.0, etc.). I was not aware of this. > > Just to be clear, I wrote (I think I wrote) that the license key is valid for > 2.x releases of MailMate since I promised that a long time ago and I intend > to keep that promise. I have not made any statements about 3.0 and we'll see > if I ever get to such a mature version number :) > > The first license keys for MailMate were sold in 2010 and they are still > valid. > > -- > Benny > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Choosing fonts and sizes
I did that. Today’s emails still say “Today”. Before I migrated to Big Sur, today’s messages showed a time in that column. Dave >> In the Inbox window, the column head “Date Received” shows only dates. I >> know it can be set to show time for today’s received messages, but I can’t >> figure out how. >> > Make the column wider by dragging the column sides. > > —Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating to Big Sur
Thanks Bill for your reply. Indeed that was the problem. I had checked the alias and suspecting it, “fixed” it myself (GetInfo>Original>let-monkey-loose-on-keyboard). I should have known better. All set up on Big Sur now and running smoothly. Many thanks. Dave - - - > Most likely because ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages is > (usually?) a symbolic link which points to the absolute full pathname of your > actual message store and that path does not exist on the new system. If you > had a "Custom Location" set for the Messages folder (in Preferences->General) > you may be able to fix the problem by switching it off, restarting MM, and > switching it back on. If you didn't have that set, you can recreate the > default symlink with: > > ln -sfn ~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Messages.noindex > ~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Messages ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Migrating to Big Sur
MM now launches and doesn’t quit immediately. When I am asked for accounts passwords, immediately after entering one I get an alert: “MailMate failed to save a file to disk. (/Users/macmini//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP/[myemail address%40gmail@imap.gmail.con/State.plist_backup). Error: no such file or directory.” I copied the files (see below) from my previous daily-functioning MM install on my Sierra boot disk to the new Big Sur drive (the entire MM folder, not by opening the folder and selecting all files and dragging those). Any idea why I’m getting this error? Thanks, Dave macOS 11.3.1 Big Sur MailMate 1.14 - - - > To migrate MailMate from Sierra to Big Sur, I moved these folders to > identical locations on the new hard boot drive by dragging and dropping in > Finder: > > ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (folder) > > ~/Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist > > All copied. I then downloaded the latest daily MM beta and copied it to the > Applications folder. > > After booting into Big Sur and launching MailMate, MM quit immediately and > Terminal opened and spit out some errors errors. (Terminal purges previous > output on Quit so those are gone for now. I’ll post what I see when I next > boot BS and run MM.) > > Is my process correct? > > Thanks, > Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Migrating to Big Sur
To migrate MailMate from Sierra to Big Sur, I moved these folders to identical locations on the new hard boot drive by dragging and dropping in Finder: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (folder) ~/Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist All copied. I then downloaded the latest daily MM beta and copied it to the Applications folder. After booting into Big Sur and launching MailMate, MM quit immediately and Terminal opened and spit out some errors errors. (Terminal purges previous output on Quit so those are gone for now. I’ll post what I see when I next boot BS and run MM.) Is my process correct? Thanks, Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] JMAP support
> On Jan 14, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Sam Hathaway wrote: > > Not necessarily. But you seem dead set against anything but the status quo so > I give up. It’s not a competition (at least to me), it’s a discussion. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] JMAP support
> On Jan 11, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Sam Hathaway wrote: > > If coordinated right, it would centralize the thankless work of kludging > around nonstandard, broken IMAP server implementations. Imagine if, instead > of each MUA author having to develop, test, and maintain dozens of ugly > hacks, they were collaborating to improve a single JMAP proxy codebase that > all could use. Puts 1 more level of responsibility in the chain. If users have mail issues, no matter how responsive and responsible the client developer is, they can only say “We’ve contacted the proxy developer. You’ll just have to wait.” Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] JMAP support
> As I said earlier, while JMAP might be very cool, it doesn't help the core > problem of widely variant IMAP server behavior; instead, it just introduces > yet more variants. > > Randall Amen. Well put. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 'Send' via keyboard?
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 7:16 AM, Bill Cole > wrote: > >> On 9 Jan 2019, at 9:37, Jason Davies wrote: >> >> Sorry about the 'command E' thing - I must have remapped that years ago, >> it's probably what Mailsmith did in 2002 and became a habit;) > > FWIW: cmd-E was almost universal for "Send" in the earliest Mac email and > email-like clients. FirstClass, Eudora, Compuserve Navigator, and the Mac AOL > client all used it. Eudora used Cmd-dash (minus sign) for send. I’ve replicated that hot key using macros (currently with Keyboard Maestro) in all email clients since. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules and sent messages
Not BCC’ing, ever. I’ll try your suggestion to add column indicating location of the message copies. Thanks, Dave > On Dec 16, 2018, at 8:21 PM, David Green wrote: > >> On 16 Dec 2018, at 20:47, Dave C wrote: >> >> I’ve got plenty of smart mailboxes with rules. The incoming messages are >> sorted to mailboxes as i want them to be. >> >> My problem—since I first started using MailMate—is with the Sent Messages. >> In all the smart mailboxes, whenever I reply to a message, 2 copies of the >> reply appear in the appropriate mailbox. I’ve fiddled with the rules in each >> but can’t find the cause of these duplicates. >> >> Any ideas will be happily received. > > Can you add a column showing the Mailbox where the found message copies are > located? > > Are you BCC’ing yourself on sent messages? > > Dave > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Gladys and MailMate
FYI, the Mac Gladys app requires 10.13 High Sierra or later. Dave > I’ve been testing out the macOS and iOS drag-drop utility Gladys. It seems to > have problems working with MailMate — JPGs dragged out of Gladys onto > MailMate work, but PDF and Word files (the only files I’ve tested so far), do > not. I’m in touch with the developer, but I thought I’d post here to see if > anyone else is using Gladys with MailMate. Is this a problem unique to my > installation? > > Sherman ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PSA: Mobile app that's compatible with many MailMate features.
> On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Giovanni Lanzani wrote: > > On 14 Nov 2018, at 22:05, davecc wrote: > > Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the > benefits on the FAQ or other information pages? > > What does the annual subscription cost? > > Dave > > 25$/year > > See here (scroll down to in-app purchases). > In the App Store yes. My comment was about lack of price information on their web site. Dave___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PSA: Mobile app that's compatible with many MailMate features.
TJ Luoma wrote: Dave C said: >> Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the >> benefits on the FAQ or other information pages? > > I don't know, but I assume somewhere along the way some "expert" told > developers not to list pricing on their website, because it is a very > popular trend. I think it's a bad one, because it always seems like > they're trying to hide it, which makes it seem like they think it's > too high. If you aren't willing to be forthcoming about it, it just > seems deceptive. THAT. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PSA: Mobile app that's compatible with many MailMate features.
Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages? What does the annual subscription cost? Dave > My apologies for those who already know this, but, last night I stumbled > across an iOS app that matches many of MailMate's features, but, obviously, > works mobile. > > MailMate is absolutely the only email client for me at my desktop, but, there > are things I sometimes must do on my iPhone or iPad that are tricky to do > with the standard Mail.app client there. > > The client I found: > > https://preside.io > > Now, the UI may not appeal to all, but, it is incredibly flexible, with a > huge array of configuration options to suit many needs. > > For me, the highlight was: It works seamlessly with MailMate IMAP tags (as > stored on FastMail, at least). > > There are all sorts of things like Smart Folders, integration with helper > apps, quick filtering, configurable buttons, its own S/MIME certificate > management, and so on. > > Just wanted to share this as I figured others in this community may be > interested. Preside very much feels like a "power user" mail app, just as I > see MailMate to be. > > Mobile will not be replacing desktop for me anytime soon - but to at least be > able to access many of the power features MailMate has enabled for me over > the years whilst mobile was a huge win. > > Regards, > > Scott > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Computer change
Benny, I’m confused. I thought that MM didn’t have local copies of the messages. I’ve asked for a feature to download messages from the server for local storage but was told it’s not possible. Please clarify for me. Thank you, Dave > Finally, if you want to refetch emails from the server(s) then you can just > copy these files and folders (the ones that exist): ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] inconsistencies with keyboard text shortcuts
I use Keyboard Maestro for all the macros including custom auto-fill text. Dave > Interesting. I hadn’t considered using Alfred (which I have) for my snippets. > I’ll give it a try, thanks. > > Peter Borsella, President > Winnow Management > PO Box 1046 > Pompano Beach, FL 33061 > Office: 954-784-3674 > Mobile: 954-253-3761 > Fax: 954-301-5829 > @pborsella > > Now available, Certified ScrumMaster for Industry! > Click here for our full class schedule and early registration pricing! > > CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any associated files contain confidential, > proprietary and privileged information and unauthorized disclosure or use is > prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify the sender and > delete this email from your system. > On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:31, pleasespa...@posteo.net wrote: > > I haven’t had issues with text expansion in MailMate. I use Alfred for my > snippets. > > On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:23, Peter Borsella wrote: > > Hello, All, > > I use the shortcut feature that allows me to type a few letters while > composing and the system then converts that to the predetermined text I’ve > setup in the “keyboard” settings. I use four ellipses () to auto-populate > my closing text at the bottom of an email. Sometimes this works, sometimes it > doesn’t. > > Is this a MailMate inconsistency, or a MacOS inconsistency? Since it’s > failure is sporadic and I only use the ellipses in MailMate it’s difficult to > test this on other apps. I’d appreciate hearing if anyone else has > experienced this. > > Thanks! > ...Peter > > Peter Borsella, President > Winnow Management > PO Box 1046 > Pompano Beach, FL 33061 > Office: 954-784-3674 > Mobile: 954-253-3761 > Fax: 954-301-5829 > @pborsella > > Now available, Certified ScrumMaster for Industry! Head to our website for > our full class schedule and early registration pricing! > http://www.winnowmanagement.com > > CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any associated files contain confidential, > proprietary and privileged information and unauthorized disclosure or use is > prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify the sender and > delete this email from your system. > > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Loading external images in Deleted Messages
>> On 18 Jul 2018, at 5:25, Randy H. Tjahjono wrote: >> >> Is it possible to always display images for messages in the Deleted Messages >> folder? I have Image Blocking disabled (unchecked), but the Deleted Messages >> folder doesn't seem to respect that setting. Randy, Images in many emails (usually spam or phishing ones) are tagged with a unique code that identifies you (or or more correctly, your address). When you load that image it tells the sender that 1) your address is valid—that someone “lives” there, and 2) you read the email. For spammers this is gold for them. Spammers send out tons of emails to addresses they either buy or otherwise obtain and they don’t know if these are a waste of time for them unless they are verified somehow. Loading those images confirms your address for them. Expect more spam in this case. Dave ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Image proxy
Yes correct Bill. If I mouse-over a link it will typically be a long sequence of digits which is coded to identify me to the spammer when I load that image. No way around this—if you load the image you will verify to the spammer your address as valid. No behavior of any mail client nor anti-malware effort can change this. I have searched for the subject of the image (if a description is given in the spam mail) and sometimes been able to view it independent of the spam mail link with a web browser. Dave > On Jun 4, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Bill Cole > wrote: > >> On 4 Jun 2018, at 9:37, Alexandru Nedelcu wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> One thing I miss in Mailmate vs webmail is the ability to show images >> without leaking my IP or other identifying info — something that GMail or >> FastMail are able to do when using their clients. > > You are over-crediting that functionality. > > A webmail provider that proxies images may "protect" you from the sender > discovering your IP address (a trivial piece of information that in most > cases isn't worth collecting) but you cannot depend on that. It DOES NOT > protect you from email address verification and in some cases has been > intentionally designed to avoid disrupting "open tracking" by senders. It's > an anti-malware and UI tactic, not part of a privacy strategy. > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Green badge?
It is also in menu bar (sorry not mentioned before). Clicked in menu bar: says 1 flagged mag in Inbox. Sorted by flag (twice), no such msg. Emailed Benny. Dave > On Jun 3, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Paul Sture wrote: > >> On 3 Jun 2017, at 19:35, John Cooper wrote: >> >> The original poster said that the badge was on the MailMate icon in the >> Dock, not in the menu bar. > > > Yes, but the green number in my MailMate Dock icon matches the green number > in the MailMate menu bar icon. > >> Jan Erik Moström wrote (at 1:38 on 3 Jun 2017): >> On 3 Jun 2017, at 2:27, Dave C wrote: What is the significance of the green badge? >>> >>> It depends on what you have specified it to mean, in other words it's user >>> customisable >>> >>> You can check what they are currently set to by going to preferences -> >>> counters and look there. >> >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
