Re: [MlMt] Cannot delete 4000 messages. Instead, they get moved, and become un-deletable.

2016-05-06 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 6 May 2016, at 4:49, Roger Bohn wrote:


1. I had about 4200 messages in Deleted Messages folder.
Question: Do these ever get deleted automatically? Apparently not.


No.

5. Looking into the STUFF folder, I have 4000 red messages, plus 900 
messages that were there earlier today. *Attempting to delete these 
messages does nothing - they remain in STUFF, and they remain red.*


What am I doing wrong? How do I get MailMate to delete messages from 
the server, and from my Mac?


It sounds like one or more of your mailboxes are not online. Check under 
SOURCES in the mailbox list that no mailboxes are greyed out.


If a message is displayed completely in red in the message list then it 
means that it's pending to be deleted on the server. Usually this would 
be synchronized very quickly and the message would disappear. Either the 
related mailbox is not online or this synchronization somehow fails.


The reason it seems something was moved back is probably that the 
original move (to Deleted Messages) was never synchronized. When 
deleting it the second time then MailMate skips the move and tries to 
delete the message in its original mailbox. This indicates that 
“Deleted Messages” (and maybe the other folder too) is not online.


I hope this helps.

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Benny
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Re: [MlMt] Cannot delete 4000 messages. Instead, they get moved, and become un-deletable.

2016-05-06 Thread Gary Hull

On 6 May 2016, at 11:49, Roger Bohn wrote:

2. I selected 4000 of them, and hit the “delete” key on my Mac. In 
the past, this has purged messages from the Deleted Messages folder, 
and from the server.


3. The messages did not disappear from the DM folder. Instead, they 
changed color to red, *and were moved back to their original folder!* 
Call that folder STUFF. So now I have approx 4000 messages in the 
STUFF folder from which they had been deleted, days or weeks ago. I 
have about 200 messages in the DM folder.


The official canonical location of your mail is the IMAP server, not 
your Macintosh. When you "delete" messages, you are simply instructing 
MailMate to issue deletion requests to be sent to the IMAP server to 
remove them from the Deleted Messages folder and get back to IMAP when 
that is done. Depending on your internet connection, your IMAP providers 
throttling, how many messages can fit in one instruction, and your 
Macintosh, a huge batched request can literally take days to finish. I 
moved all my mail from Gmail to another provider via MailMate, and it 
took a very long time for that to finish.

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[MlMt] Cannot delete 4000 messages. Instead, they get moved, and become un-deletable.

2016-05-05 Thread Roger Bohn
I have trouble deleting from MM. It has worked in the past, but not 
today.


Sequence of events:
1. I had about 4200 messages in Deleted Messages folder.
Question: Do these ever get deleted automatically? Apparently not.

2. I selected 4000 of them, and hit the “delete” key on my Mac. In 
the past, this has purged messages from the Deleted Messages folder, and 
from the server.


3. The messages did not disappear from the DM folder. Instead, they 
changed color to red, *and were moved back to their original folder!* 
Call that folder STUFF. So now I have approx 4000 messages in the STUFF 
folder from which they had been deleted, days or weeks ago. I have about 
200 messages in the DM folder.


4. The Activity Viewer window has a lot of lines that look like this:

13:42:28 S: * 83 FETCH (UID 203544 FLAGS (\Seen))
13:42:28 S: * 84 FETCH (UID 203545 FLAGS (\Seen))
or like this:
13:42:27 S: * 152 FETCH (UID 219915)
13:42:27 S: * 153 FETCH (UID 219988)
13:42:27 S: * 154 FETCH (UID 220302)
13:42:27 S: * 155 FETCH (UID 220303)
The Activity Viewer active window now shows:
S12 IDLE
R24 LOGOUT
R11 LOGOUT

5. Looking into the STUFF folder, I have 4000 red messages, plus 900 
messages that were there earlier today. *Attempting to delete these 
messages does nothing - they remain in STUFF, and they remain red.*


What am I doing wrong? How do I get MailMate to delete messages from the 
server, and from my Mac?

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