[MlMt] Confused About Threading
Hi, folks. I have a weird problem with Mailmate. Perhaps I misunderstand how it should be working. I can't really describe it but to give a short example: * I get an email today that is addressed to me and Recipient B. * I "Reply All." The message appears in my Sent Messages folder and indicates it went to the sender and Recipient B. * A while later, Recipient B also replies to all. * In MailMate, I see collapsed outline of the correspondence. It starts with the original message. If I open the disclosure triangle I see Recipient B's response, but not mine. Shouldn't I see the original message, then, at the next level of the outline, my response followed by Recipient B's response? The way things are, I don't have an accurate history of the correspondence among all three of us, and that's troubling to me. Appreciate your insights! -- Robert. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
I think I understand what you’re describing... and if so, it depends on where you’re looking in MailMate. You would need to find the message in the “All Mail” smart folder - which includes all your sent and received messages. If you look in Inbox or received messages, MM only shows you messages in those specific folders. It’s a bit different from Mail.app in that way, which always pulls together the thread regardless of what folder you’re in when you find it. I definitely found the MM way a tad confusing at first myself. Did I understand your question correctly, and did that help at all? Pat > On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Robert DelRossi wrote: > > > Hi, folks. I have a weird problem with Mailmate. Perhaps I misunderstand how > it should be working. > > I can't really describe it but to give a short example: > > I get an email today that is addressed to me and Recipient B. > > I "Reply All." The message appears in my Sent Messages folder and indicates > it went to the sender and Recipient B. > > A while later, Recipient B also replies to all. > > In MailMate, I see collapsed outline of the correspondence. It starts with > the original message. If I open the disclosure triangle I see Recipient B's > response, but not mine. > > Shouldn't I see the original message, then, at the next level of the outline, > my response followed by Recipient B's response? > > The way things are, I don't have an accurate history of the correspondence > among all three of us, and that's troubling to me. > > Appreciate your insights! > > -- Robert. > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
Yes, Pat. That's it and thank you. I see now that when "Organize by thread" is on, in "All Messages" I have the full history of the correspondence. When I first started using MailMate I went a little crazy with my own folder structure. It may be good, especially now, with a little time on my hands, to revisit how this all works. Thanks again for your kind reply. -- Robert On 18 Apr 2020, at 14:19, Pat Maddox wrote: I think I understand what you’re describing... and if so, it depends on where you’re looking in MailMate. You would need to find the message in the “All Mail” smart folder - which includes all your sent and received messages. If you look in Inbox or received messages, MM only shows you messages in those specific folders. It’s a bit different from Mail.app in that way, which always pulls together the thread regardless of what folder you’re in when you find it. I definitely found the MM way a tad confusing at first myself. Did I understand your question correctly, and did that help at all? Pat On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Robert DelRossi wrote: Hi, folks. I have a weird problem with Mailmate. Perhaps I misunderstand how it should be working. I can't really describe it but to give a short example: I get an email today that is addressed to me and Recipient B. I "Reply All." The message appears in my Sent Messages folder and indicates it went to the sender and Recipient B. A while later, Recipient B also replies to all. In MailMate, I see collapsed outline of the correspondence. It starts with the original message. If I open the disclosure triangle I see Recipient B's response, but not mine. Shouldn't I see the original message, then, at the next level of the outline, my response followed by Recipient B's response? The way things are, I don't have an accurate history of the correspondence among all three of us, and that's troubling to me. Appreciate your insights! -- Robert. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
Robert DelRossi wrote: * I get an email today that is addressed to me and Recipient B. * I "Reply All." The message appears in my Sent Messages folder and indicates it went to the sender and Recipient B. * A while later, Recipient B also replies to all. * In MailMate, I see collapsed outline of the correspondence. It starts with the original message. If I open the disclosure triangle I see Recipient B's response, but not mine. Shouldn't I see the original message, then, at the next level of the outline, my response followed by Recipient B's response? If your reply is not in the same folder, then no. Sent Messages is a separate folder.. The way things are, I don't have an accurate history of the correspondence among all three of us, and that's troubling to me. I BCC myself on everything I send, which for me is easier and cleaner than looking at All Messages. https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences and scroll down to Composing for info about how to do this. ビリー ヨーデルマん +1 310 839 7673 http://MIX.ORG/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
I deal with this issue by having a rule on the Sent Messages folder that moves messages into my INBOX. The rules on my INBOX folder then file my sent messages into other folders. Most of my rules are based on “Any Recipient”. This mostly implements a feature from Outlook that stores replies in the same folder as the original message. Jon On 18 Apr 2020, at 18:06, Billy Youdelman wrote: Robert DelRossi wrote: * I get an email today that is addressed to me and Recipient B. * I "Reply All." The message appears in my Sent Messages folder and indicates it went to the sender and Recipient B. * A while later, Recipient B also replies to all. * In MailMate, I see collapsed outline of the correspondence. It starts with the original message. If I open the disclosure triangle I see Recipient B's response, but not mine. Shouldn't I see the original message, then, at the next level of the outline, my response followed by Recipient B's response? If your reply is not in the same folder, then no. Sent Messages is a separate folder.. The way things are, I don't have an accurate history of the correspondence among all three of us, and that's troubling to me. I BCC myself on everything I send, which for me is easier and cleaner than looking at All Messages. https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences and scroll down to Composing for info about how to do this. ビリー ヨーデルマん +1 310 839 7673 http://MIX.ORG/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
To deal with the threading issue I simply created a smart mailbox that combines my Inbox with my Sent mail, and in fact use that as my default “Inbox”. Then I can always see full threads as well as messages I’ve sent that are not replies (but want to keep visible for myself until they reply). I actually have two smart mailboxes using this scheme, one for “Personal” and one for “Work”, and so for each one I can mix and match folders from various mail accounts as needed. HTH. -- Chaim Kram cha...@umich.edu On 18 Apr 2020, at 11:19, Pat Maddox wrote: I think I understand what you’re describing... and if so, it depends on where you’re looking in MailMate. You would need to find the message in the “All Mail” smart folder - which includes all your sent and received messages. If you look in Inbox or received messages, MM only shows you messages in those specific folders. It’s a bit different from Mail.app in that way, which always pulls together the thread regardless of what folder you’re in when you find it. I definitely found the MM way a tad confusing at first myself. Did I understand your question correctly, and did that help at all? Pat On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Robert DelRossi wrote: Hi, folks. I have a weird problem with Mailmate. Perhaps I misunderstand how it should be working. I can't really describe it but to give a short example: I get an email today that is addressed to me and Recipient B. I "Reply All." The message appears in my Sent Messages folder and indicates it went to the sender and Recipient B. A while later, Recipient B also replies to all. In MailMate, I see collapsed outline of the correspondence. It starts with the original message. If I open the disclosure triangle I see Recipient B's response, but not mine. Shouldn't I see the original message, then, at the next level of the outline, my response followed by Recipient B's response? The way things are, I don't have an accurate history of the correspondence among all three of us, and that's troubling to me. Appreciate your insights! -- Robert. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
On 18 Apr 2020, at 20:36, Robert DelRossi wrote: Yes, Pat. That's it and thank you. I see now that when "Organize by thread" is on, in "All Messages" I have the full history of the correspondence. When I first started using MailMate I went a little crazy with my own folder structure. It may be good, especially now, with a little time on my hands, to revisit how this all works. It's worth knowing that the "correspondence" view has a little panel with all the threads for a particular contact. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
Thank you for pointing that out, Charlie. Very helpful. -- Robert On 19 Apr 2020, at 11:18, Charlie Clark wrote: On 18 Apr 2020, at 20:36, Robert DelRossi wrote: Yes, Pat. That's it and thank you. I see now that when "Organize by thread" is on, in "All Messages" I have the full history of the correspondence. When I first started using MailMate I went a little crazy with my own folder structure. It may be good, especially now, with a little time on my hands, to revisit how this all works. It's worth knowing that the "correspondence" view has a little panel with all the threads for a particular contact. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
Is it possible somehow to have an INBOX (or smart mailbox) that shows full threads while showing only those threads that touch the INBOX? I.e., I'd love to have the full threads for my ongoing conversations, but I don't want to see threads from All Mailboxes. Specifically, I wouldn't want to see threads that lie wholly within Archive or that only touch Archive and Sent Messages. That requires a notion of "active conversation" that I have insufficient clue to implement... On 19 Apr 2020, at 10:18, Charlie Clark wrote: On 18 Apr 2020, at 20:36, Robert DelRossi wrote: Yes, Pat. That's it and thank you. I see now that when "Organize by thread" is on, in "All Messages" I have the full history of the correspondence. When I first started using MailMate I went a little crazy with my own folder structure. It may be good, especially now, with a little time on my hands, to revisit how this all works. It's worth knowing that the "correspondence" view has a little panel with all the threads for a particular contact. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Confused About Threading
Robert, Is it possible somehow to have an INBOX (or smart mailbox) that shows full threads while showing only those threads that touch the INBOX? In the ‘Examples’ folder that comes by default with a new MM installation there should be a smart mailbox called ‘Personal inbox with threading’. Does that not work for you? In any case you can use it as a basis for your own version. Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
