[MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
Hi, I just received an encrypted email from an Office 365 user (attached as *message_v3.rpmsg file). 1. What kind of encryption does Office 365/Outlook use? 2. Is that something external mail clients can support? 3. @Benny: Is support planned? I mean, many companies are using this office stuff, and I would go mad, if I now receive hundreds of emails, where I have to click a link to access them. This smells a bit like an intended MS strategy to push more and more people into their ecosystem by making things not working together, while activating encryption by default for all customers. Viele Grüsse. -- Robert M. Münch Note: The .ASC file contains a digital PGP signature of this email. It can be used to check that this email is from me and was not changed since I wrote it. Hinweis: Die .ASC Datei enthält eine digitale PGP Signatur dieser Email. Mit dieser kann überprüft werden, dass diese Email von mir geschrieben und seitdem nicht verändert wurde. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
Hi My understanding those are e-mails with Rights-Managed Email Object Protocol enabled. This is a proprietary Microsoft format - your only bet is to use Outlook (not even sure the Mac version does know about it) or OWA. Best regards On 26 Oct 2022, at 10:02, Robert M. Münch wrote: Hi, I just received an encrypted email from an Office 365 user (attached as *message_v3.rpmsg file). 1. What kind of encryption does Office 365/Outlook use? 2. Is that something external mail clients can support? 3. @Benny: Is support planned? I mean, many companies are using this office stuff, and I would go mad, if I now receive hundreds of emails, where I have to click a link to access them. This smells a bit like an intended MS strategy to push more and more people into their ecosystem by making things not working together, while activating encryption by default for all customers. Viele Grüsse. -- Robert M. Münch Note: The .ASC file contains a digital PGP signature of this email. It can be used to check that this email is from me and was not changed since I wrote it. Hinweis: Die .ASC Datei enthält eine digitale PGP Signatur dieser Email. Mit dieser kann überprüft werden, dass diese Email von mir geschrieben und seitdem nicht verändert wurde. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
Greetings Robert, O-365 (Microsoft) is making moves in US government secure markets (DHS, DoD particularly). Perhaps that is the interest and driving direction, generally. Either way, if I receive unsolicited encrypted email without advance agreement to do so, I consider it to be junk and have not intention to respond. If an agreement to receive encrypted email is requested, I would have to consider whether to agree to accept a decoding method. SFAIK, there is no current problem in my daily use of email for any client (app) or recipient in that regard. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 26 Oct 2022, at 4:02, Robert M. Münch wrote: Hi, I just received an encrypted email from an Office 365 user (attached as *message_v3.rpmsg file). 1. What kind of encryption does Office 365/Outlook use? 2. Is that something external mail clients can support? 3. @Benny: Is support planned? I mean, many companies are using this office stuff, and I would go mad, if I now receive hundreds of emails, where I have to click a link to access them. This smells a bit like an intended MS strategy to push more and more people into their ecosystem by making things not working together, while activating encryption by default for all customers. Viele Grüsse. -- Robert M. Münch Note: The .ASC file contains a digital PGP signature of this email. It can be used to check that this email is from me and was not changed since I wrote it. Hinweis: Die .ASC Datei enthält eine digitale PGP Signatur dieser Email. Mit dieser kann überprüft werden, dass diese Email von mir geschrieben und seitdem nicht verändert wurde. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
On 2022-10-26 at 04:02:00 UTC-0400 (Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:02:00 +0200) Robert M. Münch is rumored to have said: Hi, I just received an encrypted email from an Office 365 user (attached as *message_v3.rpmsg file). There was no such file attached to your message as delivered to the list. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
On 26 Oct 2022, at 14:45, Bill Cole wrote: > There was no such file attached to your message as delivered to the list. Well, my statement was about how I received the email, not that I intended to send out a customer encrypted email to the mailing list. - Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
On 26 Oct 2022, at 11:27, Alexandre Takacs wrote: > My understanding those are e-mails with Rights-Managed Email Object Protocol > enabled. Hi Alexandre, yes, that's how I understand it too. > This is a proprietary Microsoft format - your only bet is to use Outlook (not > even sure the Mac version does know about it) or OWA. Ok, as I thought. The person sending me the email accidentally encrypted it. However, I still see an indirect pressure into the market, when more and more companies start using this OL feature and think, it's the standard. The only company I'm aware about that consequently uses PGP or S/MIME encrypted email, is Mercedes Benz. You can submit your PGP key, and from then on, all emails are encrypted back and forth. Very nice. - Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate