Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

For me the key is to adjust the synchronization schedule UP to 30 
minutes or more. Somehow, the faster is resynchs the more the failure at 
the server.


Clearly new stuff going on at Outlook/WindowsLive.

Respectfully,

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On 25 Jan 2024, at 17:29, RANDY ABBOTT wrote:

I ran into this issue also earlier this week. It turned out I needed 
to create an app password, which you can do by logging into your 
Microsoft account Security 
dashboard » 
Advanced security options » App passwords and use that password when 
the prompt appears.



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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

So that’s specific for MailMate? Works different than other servers, 
it seems. Thanks, I’ll create one now and use it when the server 
should ask for it.


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On 25 Jan 2024, at 17:29, RANDY ABBOTT wrote:

I ran into this issue also earlier this week. It turned out I needed 
to create an app password, which you can do by logging into your 
Microsoft account Security 
dashboard » 
Advanced security options » App passwords and use that password when 
the prompt appears.



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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[RANDY ABBOTT]

I ran into this issue also earlier this week. It turned out I needed to create 
an app password, which you can do by logging into your Microsoft account 
Security dashboard » 
Advanced security options » App passwords and use that password when the prompt 
appears.
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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

John, et al:

After some digging and an hour wasted with Windows Support (who tried 
desperately to sell me on Windows Live) which they apparently converted 
me to unknowingly, even though I don’t have a subscription, HA! 
Here’s what I found:


* The previous existing IMAP server (imap-mail.outlook.com) may work but 
be flaky in some environments. It is listed in the basic outlook 
settings, still.
* The definitive setting (in my case, without outlook app) in MM and 
Mail are the settings [from this 
page](https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/pop-imap-and-smtp-settings-for-outlook-com-d088b986-291d-42b8-9564-9c414e2aa040).
* These are not part of MM auto-configuration, nor the MacOS Internet 
Account auto-configure, so proceed at your own risk. I used these 
settings manually in MM to achieve a reliable server connection, one 
that doesn’t continually re-quest a password or deliver a failure to 
connect such as I experienced.
* If you have actually got Windows Live apps installed on your Mac, you 
should automatically get these setting ported to you (this is according 
to my goofy friend and I don’t so YMMV.
* The New Outlook wraps up all or many cloud accounts (including iCloud 
into the Windows Cloud and so incorporates everything there. Good Luck!


Anyway, I think I’m good, for now. Also set up Web Mail in Outlook, 
which brings in more adware, BTW. Not planning to use it anymore. They 
offer an ad-free version $$. Things are changing at M$. Caveat Emptor.


Respectfully,

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On 25 Jan 2024, at 10:30, Henry Seiden wrote:


Thanks, John. I’ll give that a try.

I have already checked on Microsoft’s support pages and verified 
that for “normal” and/or previous Outlook, my settings are 
correct.


However, there is a question of the “New Outlook” on Windows Live 
accounts, It’s one that MailMate defaults when auto configuring for 
unknown reasons. That Server total fails for me and the old settings 
are flaky. I do NOT have a subscription Windows Live account, though, 
to my knowledge.


Microsoft, being what/who they are, have little if any support on this 
question that I can find. But will pursue identifying what kind of 
account I have and how this may impact logging in.


Respectfully,

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On 25 Jan 2024, at 10:20, John Cooper wrote:

I'm no Outlook expert, but it strikes me that you've tried a lot of 
tweaking of MailMate, but haven't done much on the Outlook side. Have 
you tried logging into Outlook via the Web, confirming its settings, 
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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

Thanks, John. I’ll give that a try.

I have already checked on Microsoft’s support pages and verified that 
for “normal” and/or previous Outlook, my settings are correct.


However, there is a question of the “New Outlook” on Windows Live 
accounts, It’s one that MailMate defaults when auto configuring for 
unknown reasons. That Server total fails for me and the old settings are 
flaky. I do NOT have a subscription Windows Live account, though, to my 
knowledge.


Microsoft, being what/who they are, have little if any support on this 
question that I can find. But will pursue identifying what kind of 
account I have and how this may impact logging in.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 25 Jan 2024, at 10:20, John Cooper wrote:

I'm no Outlook expert, but it strikes me that you've tried a lot of 
tweaking of MailMate, but haven't done much on the Outlook side. Have 
you tried logging into Outlook via the Web, confirming its settings, 
resetting its password, and so on?___
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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[John Cooper]

Henry Seiden wrote (at 6:30 AM on Thursday, January 25, 2024):

It seems to me when attempting to log in the IMAP account in 
auto-configure mode, that it’s a security thing with Windows Live. 
The auto-configure uses new IMAP Server names (outlook.office365.com, 
attempting to share with online windows Live accounts according to the 
display in MM). The popup (see pic) failed to resolve to a working 
browser page (blank popup window appears and disappears with no 
details, so the auto-configure is stuck.


Using the previous setup in IMAP Servers with Mail (IMAP server, 
mail.outlook.com, etc.) but it’s a no-go in MM for unknown reasons. 
Works in Mail but occasionally needs refresh to stay connected. While 
connected I can send and receive test messages.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 25 Jan 2024, at 9:01, Henry Seiden wrote:


Hello All,

I’ve been having issues with maintaining a connection to IMAP 
account at outlook.com server. It will often come up with a LOGIN 
FAIL error in Mailmate r6015-6018.


Using MM on a MBP 2021 M1 Pro (APPLE SILICON). What I have tried so 
far:
1. Compare to other accounts on the same machine and MM installation. 
All other accounts seem fine.
2. Tried to reset password on Outlook source IMAP settings, which 
doesn’t do the trick. Neither does completely replacing the Source 
account, logging it in.
3. Checked against different OS installations, different computers 
and comparing with Mail.app.


Have the Outlook account which is seldom active except for testing, 
turned off. Waiting to hear from anyone using Outlook. I am aware 
that Microsoft has recent change their app to “New Outlook” and 
wonder if that is something related… Anyone else? Also sent Benny 
Feedback to see his take on this. Appreciate any of your input here.


Henry,

I'm no Outlook expert, but it strikes me that you've tried a lot of 
tweaking of MailMate, but haven't done much on the Outlook side. Have 
you tried logging into Outlook via the Web, confirming its settings, 
resetting its password, and so on?


Since Apple Mail is also struggling to stay connected to Outlook, signs 
point to an issue on Outlook's side. I would start by confirming 
Outlook's configuration without getting MailMate involved. Then when 
you're sure it's correct, go back to MailMate and try setting up the 
account again.


John
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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

Installed r6019. Tried to use my Outlook account there.

It seems to latch onto the server initially and then (less often than 
previous versions, but still) often asks for a password after reporting 
the same problem “D1 LOGIN fails...” after an IMAP fetch.


Respectfully,

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On 25 Jan 2024, at 9:01, Henry Seiden wrote:


Hello All,

I’ve been having issues with maintaining a connection to IMAP 
account at outlook.com server. It will often come up with a LOGIN FAIL 
error in Mailmate r6015-6018.


Using MM on a MBP 2021 M1 Pro (APPLE SILICON). What I have tried so 
far:
1. Compare to other accounts on the same machine and MM installation. 
All other accounts seem fine.
2. Tried to reset password on Outlook source IMAP settings, which 
doesn’t do the trick. Neither does completely replacing the Source 
account, logging it in.
3. Checked against different OS installations, different computers and 
comparing with Mail.app.


Have the Outlook account which is seldom active except for testing, 
turned off. Waiting to hear from anyone using Outlook. I am aware that 
Microsoft has recent change their app to “New Outlook” and wonder 
if that is something related… Anyone else? Also sent Benny Feedback 
to see his take on this. Appreciate any of your input here.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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Re: [MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

It seems to me when attempting to log in the IMAP account in 
auto-configure mode, that it’s a security thing with Windows Live. The 
auto-configure uses new IMAP Server names (outlook.office365.com, 
attempting to share with online windows Live accounts according to the 
display in MM). The popup (see pic) failed to resolve to a working 
browser page (blank popup window appears and disappears with no details, 
so the auto-configure is stuck.


Using the previous setup in IMAP Servers with Mail (IMAP server, 
mail.outlook.com, etc.) but it’s a no-go in MM for unknown reasons. 
Works in Mail but occasionally needs refresh to stay connected. While 
connected I can send and receive test messages.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 25 Jan 2024, at 9:01, Henry Seiden wrote:


Hello All,

I’ve been having issues with maintaining a connection to IMAP 
account at outlook.com server. It will often come up with a LOGIN FAIL 
error in Mailmate r6015-6018.


Using MM on a MBP 2021 M1 Pro (APPLE SILICON). What I have tried so 
far:
1. Compare to other accounts on the same machine and MM installation. 
All other accounts seem fine.
2. Tried to reset password on Outlook source IMAP settings, which 
doesn’t do the trick. Neither does completely replacing the Source 
account, logging it in.
3. Checked against different OS installations, different computers and 
comparing with Mail.app.


Have the Outlook account which is seldom active except for testing, 
turned off. Waiting to hear from anyone using Outlook. I am aware that 
Microsoft has recent change their app to “New Outlook” and wonder 
if that is something related… Anyone else? Also sent Benny Feedback 
to see his take on this. Appreciate any of your input here.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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[MlMt] Problems with Outlook (Microsoft Windows Live) email sources?

[Henry Seiden]

Hello All,

I’ve been having issues with maintaining a connection to IMAP account 
at outlook.com server. It will often come up with a LOGIN FAIL error in 
Mailmate r6015-6018.


Using MM on a MBP 2021 M1 Pro (APPLE SILICON). What I have tried so far:
1. Compare to other accounts on the same machine and MM installation. 
All other accounts seem fine.
2. Tried to reset password on Outlook source IMAP settings, which 
doesn’t do the trick. Neither does completely replacing the Source 
account, logging it in.
3. Checked against different OS installations, different computers and 
comparing with Mail.app.


Have the Outlook account which is seldom active except for testing, 
turned off. Waiting to hear from anyone using Outlook. I am aware that 
Microsoft has recent change their app to “New Outlook” and wonder if 
that is something related… Anyone else? Also sent Benny Feedback to 
see his take on this. Appreciate any of your input here.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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