Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 21 Feb 2014, at 18:34, Ingo Lantschner wrote: I created a Smart Mailbox with the condition of not within the last 90 days and Mailboxes Any *Ingo Lantschner* (different from the Archive Mailbox!). This Smart Mailbox was filled immediately after creation with the expected messages. Then I added a rule to that Smart Mailbox with a similar condition and an action of moving to an other mailbox. Nothing happens. Mailbox —> Apply Rules moved the messages from *Ingo Lantschner* to *Archive*. But they are still visible in the Smart Mailbox. Any idea whey they are still visible? Are you sure the mailbox is not also based on the mailbox you are moving messages to? Is there a way to move the messages lets say once a day, No, I don't think so. or if I open MailMate? Hmm, I hadn't really given this much thought. Messages matching a smart mailbox based on a date condition are not going to be triggered if the date is reached while MailMate is closed. That might not be easily solved without changing rules to be applied (if conditions match) to all messages on startup. I'll give it some thought, but I think the solution is also a solution to another problem (having to create a separate smart mailbox for certain types of conditions/rules). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 22 Feb 2014, at 3:07, Eric Steele wrote: From my fiddling with things, I believe the rules fire only when the messages arrive in the mailbox. So by creating the smart mailbox criteria first, the messages were already in there when the rule was created and it didn't consider them to be new. I wound up having to fiddle with the criteria, changing it briefly to exclude all of the messages. When I changed back the rule fired and archived all of the messages that'd reappeared in the smart mailbox. This is correct. I found out the latter was not a good thing. I was playing with conditions of a smart mailbox with a rule to move messages to the trash and I accidentally moved all INBOX messages to the trash (I recovered the old state although it would be nice with Inbox Zero :-) ). In the latest test version I've changed it such that changing a smart mailbox does not trigger the rules of the mailbox. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:34, Ingo Lantschner wrote: On 14 Feb 2014, at 17:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: And that’s what I did. The latest test release should have working date based smart mailboxes (if my changes work as expected). I’ve also expanded the condition options to include hours and even minutes (seconds seemed to be taking it too far). This also fixes some other date-related bugs, e.g., if any mailboxes were based on a mailbox using date-conditions. Important note: This only works with rules if you create a separate smart mailbox matching the messages you want to move (the rule of this mailbox is then just the move-action). Since you move the messages then this mailbox is always going to be empty, but this is how it works now. Hi Benny, thanks for the update! The moving works, if I select all Messages in the Smart Mailbox and click on Mailbox —> Apply Rules. But the Smart Mailbox still shows all of the messages - strange ?! This is what I did: I created a Smart Mailbox with the condition of not within the last 90 days and Mailboxes Any *Ingo Lantschner* (different from the Archive Mailbox!). This Smart Mailbox was filled immediately after creation with the expected messages. Then I added a rule to that Smart Mailbox with a similar condition and an action of moving to an other mailbox. Nothing happens. Mailbox —> Apply Rules moved the messages from *Ingo Lantschner* to *Archive*. But they are still visible in the Smart Mailbox. Any idea whey they are still visible? Is there a way to move the messages lets say once a day, or if I open MailMate? Kind regards, Ingo -- Ingo Lantschner Ingo, From my fiddling with things, I believe the rules fire only when the messages arrive in the mailbox. So by creating the smart mailbox criteria first, the messages were already in there when the rule was created and it didn't consider them to be new. I wound up having to fiddle with the criteria, changing it briefly to exclude all of the messages. When I changed back the rule fired and archived all of the messages that'd reappeared in the smart mailbox. Benny, thanks so much for this feature. I was able to create a rule that automatically archives New Relic alert emails when the corresponding alert-ended email arrived. It made my day. Eric___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 14 Feb 2014, at 17:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: And that’s what I did. The latest test release should have working date based smart mailboxes (if my changes work as expected). I’ve also expanded the condition options to include hours and even minutes (seconds seemed to be taking it too far). This also fixes some other date-related bugs, e.g., if any mailboxes were based on a mailbox using date-conditions. Important note: This only works with rules if you create a separate smart mailbox matching the messages you want to move (the rule of this mailbox is then just the move-action). Since you move the messages then this mailbox is always going to be empty, but this is how it works now. Hi Benny, thanks for the update! The moving works, if I select all Messages in the Smart Mailbox and click on Mailbox —> Apply Rules. But the Smart Mailbox still shows all of the messages - strange ?! This is what I did: I created a Smart Mailbox with the condition of not within the last 90 days and Mailboxes Any *Ingo Lantschner* (different from the Archive Mailbox!). This Smart Mailbox was filled immediately after creation with the expected messages. Then I added a rule to that Smart Mailbox with a similar condition and an action of moving to an other mailbox. Nothing happens. Mailbox —> Apply Rules moved the messages from *Ingo Lantschner* to *Archive*. But they are still visible in the Smart Mailbox. Any idea whey they are still visible? Is there a way to move the messages lets say once a day, or if I open MailMate? Kind regards, Ingo -- Ingo Lantschner ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 13 Feb 2014, at 11:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 12 Feb 2014, at 11:55, Ingo Lantschner wrote: I just created a rule, that mails whose date is not within the last 120 days should be moved to an other servers mailbox (a local IMAP-server). But nothing happend - even after restarting MailMate. When/how are rules triggerd? Rules with date-based conditions only work for messages becoming a part of a mailbox for a different reason (initial arrival, mailbox move, tag change, ...). It currently does not work in cases like what you describe here. There is no workaround I believe (other than me improving how date conditions are handled). And that's what I did. The latest test release should have working date based smart mailboxes (if my changes work as expected). I've also expanded the condition options to include hours and even minutes (seconds seemed to be taking it too far). This also fixes some other date-related bugs, e.g., if any mailboxes were based on a mailbox using date-conditions. Important note: This only works with rules if you create a separate smart mailbox matching the messages you want to move (the rule of this mailbox is then just the move-action). Since you move the messages then this mailbox is always going to be empty, but this is how it works now. It'll require a special event type to make it work without the separate mailbox. That might be useful for other purposes as well, but it's not yet implemented. And no, I have not yet implemented “today”, “yesterday”, “this week”, etc. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 13 Feb 2014, at 11:25, Mike Brasch wrote: Feature Request: a button or menu entry to enforce rules. I often wished such a feature after creating a rule. It's been on the todo for a while. I would have liked to be able to easily apply a specific mailbox rule, but for now I've added a “Mailbox ▸ Apply Rules” (⌥⌘L) menu item which applies the rules of the currently selected mailbox to the currently selected messages. There is also a `applyRules:` for users wanting a different shortcut. (This could also be used as a manual workaround for re-applying date related rules which are currently not triggered automatically.) A test version is not out yet. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 13 Feb 2014, at 11:19, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Rules with date-based conditions only work for messages becoming a part of a mailbox for a different reason (initial arrival, mailbox move, tag change, ...). It currently does not work in cases like what you describe here. There is no workaround I believe (other than me improving how date conditions are handled). Feature Request: a button or menu entry to enforce rules. I often wished such a feature after creating a rule. -- Gruß Mike ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
On 12 Feb 2014, at 11:55, Ingo Lantschner wrote: I just created a rule, that mails whose date is not within the last 120 days should be moved to an other servers mailbox (a local IMAP-server). But nothing happend - even after restarting MailMate. When/how are rules triggerd? Rules with date-based conditions only work for messages becoming a part of a mailbox for a different reason (initial arrival, mailbox move, tag change, ...). It currently does not work in cases like what you describe here. There is no workaround I believe (other than me improving how date conditions are handled). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Rules to archive mail? (How to trigger rule-processing?)
Hi, I just created a rule, that mails whose date is not within the last 120 days should be moved to an other servers mailbox (a local IMAP-server). But nothing happend - even after restarting MailMate. When/how are rules triggerd? Kind regards, Ingo -- Ingo Lantschner ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
