Re: [MlMt] Sorting by date received...
On 7 Oct 2015, at 1:44, Bill Cole wrote: On 6 Oct 2015, at 17:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Agreed. As far as I can see then this would only happen if a message has neither Date header nor any Received headers. I guess I should just make “Date Received” default to the current date (the first time MailMate sees it). I had always assumed "Date Received" was the IMAP "INTERNALDATE" since that's always available and should be when the message was delivered... That would be a simple and straightforward solution. Unfortunately, INTERNALDATE cannot be trusted to be correct (due to a combination of buggy servers and buggy email clients -- including MailMate at some point in the past). I think I've got a note somewhere about using INTERNALDATE when it (heuristically) appears to be correct, but it's not a high priority. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Sorting by date received...
On 6 Oct 2015, at 23:47, Seebs wrote: On 6 Oct 2015, at 16:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Agreed. As far as I can see then this would only happen if a message has neither Date header nor any Received headers. I guess I should just make “Date Received” default to the current date (the first time MailMate sees it). D'oh. I meant "Date Sent", not "Date Received". I was using that for my inbox because it produced slightly more useful results for things that got delayed in transit (such as by greylisting). Well, “Date Sent” is based on the “Date” header which is generated by email clients -- in other words it cannot be trusted to be correct :-) So some things have no "Date Sent", and then get sorted as Older Than Everything. I guess the “Date Sent” value could fall back to “Date Received” when a “Date” header is not found. ... Ok, I've added that now, but it won't affect already fetched messages. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Sorting by date received...
On 6 Oct 2015, at 17:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 6 Oct 2015, at 23:33, Seebs wrote: I would sort of prefer for "there is no date available" to be replaced with either Some Other Date, or treated as newer than any date rather than older than any date. Some mail (thus far, exclusively spam) comes in with no date header, and if I have an inbox sorted by date received, it gets shoved to the far bottom, which is inconvenient. Agreed. As far as I can see then this would only happen if a message has neither Date header nor any Received headers. I guess I should just make “Date Received” default to the current date (the first time MailMate sees it). I had always assumed "Date Received" was the IMAP "INTERNALDATE" since that's always available and should be when the message was delivered... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Sorting by date received...
On 6 Oct 2015, at 16:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Agreed. As far as I can see then this would only happen if a message has neither Date header nor any Received headers. I guess I should just make “Date Received” default to the current date (the first time MailMate sees it). D'oh. I meant "Date Sent", not "Date Received". I was using that for my inbox because it produced slightly more useful results for things that got delayed in transit (such as by greylisting). So some things have no "Date Sent", and then get sorted as Older Than Everything. -s ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Sorting by date received...
On 6 Oct 2015, at 23:33, Seebs wrote: I would sort of prefer for "there is no date available" to be replaced with either Some Other Date, or treated as newer than any date rather than older than any date. Some mail (thus far, exclusively spam) comes in with no date header, and if I have an inbox sorted by date received, it gets shoved to the far bottom, which is inconvenient. Agreed. As far as I can see then this would only happen if a message has neither Date header nor any Received headers. I guess I should just make “Date Received” default to the current date (the first time MailMate sees it). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Sorting by date received...
I would sort of prefer for "there is no date available" to be replaced with either Some Other Date, or treated as newer than any date rather than older than any date. Some mail (thus far, exclusively spam) comes in with no date header, and if I have an inbox sorted by date received, it gets shoved to the far bottom, which is inconvenient. -s ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
