Re: [MlMt] Trying to understand tags/folders for GMail

[Jonathan Clark]

Regards,

-- Jonathan

On 26 May 2014, at 17:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:


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Date26 May 2014 12:54

On 24 May 2014, at 0:38, Jonathan Clark wrote:

I also have _todo and _waiting folders that I also often
copy messages to alongside the other folder.
These are what I would consider to be labels/tags/flags/keywords. 
These messages have a primary location and are then 
labelled/tagged/... as a way to categorize them beyond that primary 
location.I'm guessing that I should be moving the folders _todo and 
_waiting to be tags, leaving the others as folders?



Benny replied:
Yes, you can create the tags “ToDo” and “Waiting” in MailMate 
and then make sure that they are mapped to your existing Gmail labels 
“_todo” and “_waiting”.

But what are the practical benefits of this?
If you do the above then the IMAP mailboxes in MailMate named 
“_todo” and “_waiting” should disappear when the account is 
synchronized (you might need to explicitly do that). Any messages with 
these labels are instead going to appear as tagged in MailMate (with 
ToDo and Waiting). You should create smart mailboxes with, for 
example, the condition: “Tags/Keywords” include “ToDo”.


1. It's about avoiding duplicate messages. In your current setup, a 
message located in both “_todo” and in one of your other mailboxes 
is going to be fetched and stored twice by MailMate.
2. It's about treating labels as tags. If something is used as a label 
(and not a mailbox) then this is also how it should be used in 
MailMate. In MailMate it is known as tags, but it's the same thing. 
Using the “T” shortcut you can easily add/remove your labels/tags.
3. It's about migration. If you ever need to move messages from Gmail 
to some other IMAP server (or the other way) then tags are preserved.


Having formed a _todo tag, I have gone back and used it to tag a 
number of the messages in the _todo folder, and I have synchronised and 
re-started the app. But the _todo folder still shows. Am I missing 
something?


And another issue: when I'm away from the Mac, I will use a variety of 
iOS apps to triage mail. This includes filing to the _todo folder. When 
I do this it doesn't seem to add the _todo tag. Is this related to the 
first issue? Is there a way to get this tagging working in iOS?


Thanks,

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[MlMt] Trying to understand tags/folders for GMail

[Jonathan Clark]

Hi,

I've been using MM for many months with GMail, but decided it was time to
try out the new feature that appeared some months ago. From the release
notes at the time:

Recently, I implemented a workaround in MailMate for the problem of
 multiple labels. It is currently an experimental solution and you can
 enable it following the instructions in the release notes for version 1.7.
 In short, MailMate can be told to handle specific Gmail labels as if they
 were tags. If a label is handled as a tag then MailMate automatically
 ignores the corresponding IMAP mailbox. Tags are already supported by
 MailMate (no integration with Mavericks yet) and uses IMAP keywords on
 standard IMAP servers.


This has left me a little uncertain about what I should change, and what
the end result will be. As it might well be the same for others, I thought
I'd ask some questions about it here, before I dive in and make some
changes.

I have about 30 GMail folders based on the topic of the message, and I
move email to one and only one of them as quickly as possible, if it needs
to be kept. I also have _todo and _waiting folders that I also often
copy messages to alongside the other folder.

I'm guessing that I should be moving the folders _todo and _waiting to
be tags, leaving the others as folders? But what are the practical benefits
of this? It's not as if my current method is really broken.

Thanks,

-- Jonathan
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