Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
On 26 Nov 2019, at 11:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. Check out Posteo. -- Wilpy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Thank you everyone, all very useful. Looks like Fastmail has the votes, and I should ignore distance! Another potential provider I have found is Migadu (www.migadu.com), seems very interesting, does anyone have any experience? Seamus PS once I get the provider sorted I will be shifting all my colleagues to MailMate, could be interesting! On 28 Nov 2019, at 4:05, leo wrote: Totally can second this: FastMail is very reliable and I had never speed issues. Works very well with MailMate. (Side note: Their iOS app is only so-so - but better than iOS Mail.) On 27 Nov 2019, at 4:22, Sam Hathaway wrote: It’s AU-based, but FastMail is decent and works well with MailMate. Hope this helps. -sam On 26 Nov 2019, at 12:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Totally can second this: FastMail is very reliable and I had never speed issues. Works very well with MailMate. (Side note: Their iOS app is only so-so - but better than iOS Mail.) On 27 Nov 2019, at 4:22, Sam Hathaway wrote: It’s AU-based, but FastMail is decent and works well with MailMate. Hope this helps. -sam On 26 Nov 2019, at 12:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Sam Hathaway wrote, quoting Seamus Phillips: FastMail seems ideal, but servers are quite remote (New York based if I understand correctly). Perhaps I am being over cautious about distance… While FastMail is an Australian company, their servers are located in New Jersey. I agree that you’re being overly cautious about the distance. I've been using Fastmail for four years, from Los Angeles, which is about the same distance. Speed has been fine. Regarding moving to Fastmail (in December, 2015), they have their own migration tool, so I tried it with a small account. It does get the job done, but it's rather slow, and the only indication of progress was three tiny dots flashing in the very small new mail count icon on their web page. So, I decided to use imapsync for my own mail (40,000+ messages in 170 folders). I went into work where I have my own OC-3, thinking well, it should be quite zippy there. I did see 3.8MB/sec from my old server, but Fastmail topped out at just 872KB/sec, so I could've just stayed home... This is a very nice, actively maintained tool for migrating IMAP accounts - http://imapsync.lamiral.info ビリー ヨーデルマん +1 310 839 7673 http://MIX.ORG/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
I can warmly recommend [Runbox](https://runbox.com) based in Norway. They seem to take security and privacy seriously and are GDPR compliant etc. Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
On 27 Nov 2019, at 7:01, Seamus Phillips wrote: FastMail seems ideal, but servers are quite remote (New York based if I understand correctly). Perhaps I am being over cautious about distance… While FastMail is an Australian company, their servers are located in New Jersey. I agree that you’re being overly cautious about the distance. If you’re concerned about data privacy or government interference, here’s what FastMail has to say: * [FastMail's servers are in the US: what this means for you](https://fastmail.blog/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-in-the-us-what-this-means-for-you/) * [FastMail is not required to implement the Australian metadata retention laws](https://fastmail.blog/2015/04/09/fastmail-is-not-required-to-implement-the-australian-metadata-retention-laws/) * [GDPR is here!](https://fastmail.blog/2018/05/24/gdpr-is-here/) Hope this helps. -sam ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that > plays nicely with MailMate? I use mailfence without any trouble. https://mailfence.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
On 27 Nov 2019, at 13:01, Seamus Phillips wrote: FastMail seems ideal, but servers are quite remote (New York based if I understand correctly). Perhaps I am being over cautious about distance… Distance isn't a real problem: there are some nice images showing the topology of some connections. But GDPR will be a bigger issue as safe harbour or whatever it's currently called, isn't sufficient if personal data is a concern. You will need a EU-homed servers but this is what most providers now offer. But 50 GB for a single mailbox will be expensive. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
On 27 Nov 2019, at 12:01, Seamus Phillips wrote: FastMail seems ideal, but servers are quite remote (New York based if I understand correctly). Perhaps I am being over cautious about distance… I've used Fastmail in the UK for at least 15 years. The speed is excellent, much faster than other providers I've used. They're also a top-notch company focused on email, not hobbyists or people who wish they were doing something else. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Thanks all for the recommendations. A bit more info: - Currently host in-house, are looking to move to a managed ‘cloud’ service to reduce maintenance - Looking for whole domain, with around 20 accounts plus aliases - Need up to 50GB storage on one address (most addresses much less) - UK or EU based (to keep local) - Happy to pay FastMail seems ideal, but servers are quite remote (New York based if I understand correctly). Perhaps I am being over cautious about distance… Seamus On 26 Nov 2019, at 17:54, Charlie Clark wrote: On 26 Nov 2019, at 18:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? I would have thought that pretty much any provide that does IMAP should be fine. What is it you're looking for? Just a mail account? Or somewhere to host the e-mail for your domain? If the first then GMX is pretty robust, if the second then I've found domainfactory to be pretty good for something with minimal setup and maintenance, but the choice is pretty wide. OTOH there is also OwnCloud, for which there are several providers with free plans. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
I like fastmail too. I use them from the US and the performance is fine. Presumably it'd be OK from the UK too. > On Nov 26, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Sam Hathaway wrote: > > It’s AU-based, but FastMail is decent and works well with MailMate. Hope this > helps. > -sam > > On 26 Nov 2019, at 12:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: > >> Hi MM Community! >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that >> plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. >> >> For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage >> is required. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Seamus >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
On 26 Nov 2019, at 18:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? I would have thought that pretty much any provide that does IMAP should be fine. What is it you're looking for? Just a mail account? Or somewhere to host the e-mail for your domain? If the first then GMX is pretty robust, if the second then I've found domainfactory to be pretty good for something with minimal setup and maintenance, but the choice is pretty wide. OTOH there is also OwnCloud, for which there are several providers with free plans. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
It’s AU-based, but FastMail is decent and works well with MailMate. Hope this helps. -sam On 26 Nov 2019, at 12:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
You can roll your own with Message-In-A-Box (MIAB). https://mailinabox.email/ We use it on a VPS Ubuntu 16.04 server. Yes we know it should be on Ubuntu 18.04 but nobody has OpenVZ containers for Ubuntu 18.04. Takes about 60 mins to do from start to finish, most of that time is setting the server up. The server becomes an appliance and it just works for us. It sorts out certificates and mail group aliasing. We also run simple web servers (no PHP) easily and quickly. We have the smallest VPS plan and it's fine. You do need to be familiar with the command line and to be happy to run your own server, but I spend no more than 10 mins a month managing it. Rob On 26 Nov 2019, at 17:14, Seamus Phillips wrote: Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] UK email provider recommendations
Hi MM Community! Does anyone have any recommendations for a UK (or EU) based IMAP host that plays nicely with MailMate? IE not Gmail or MS365. For a small business with not much traffic, but a decent amount of storage is required. Thanks! Seamus ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
