Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:25, Charlie Clark wrote:


On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:02, Robert Brenstein wrote:

5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but 
still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes 
even if user does nothing on the computer.


Okay, then it's best to stick with the last stable release and Benny 
is quite clear on this. Some of us are prepared to put up with the odd 
crash to try new things out, but if I had more than a couple of 
crashes a week, I'd go back to stable as well.


Charlie



I’d like to go to the last stable release but unfortunately that 
version fails to print emails :-( We may go back to 5657 which seemed 
least crash-prone of all the betas I tried.


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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-04 Thread Marc ARC

Robert,

In the Preferences
Under the SoftwareUpdate tab
Click [Check No] while holding the alt/option key

This will load the latest “beta-beta” at this moment Version 1.13.1 
build 5676


Which is very stable to us.

Regards,



Marc



On 3 Feb 2020, at 21:57, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Version 1.13.1 (5671) keeps crashing more and more for my wife for no 
apparent reason, that is without any discernible pattern. Anybody else 
seeing that? I stay with version 5657 because newer versions were 
crashing on me too much. I suspect that Benny’s making major code 
changes is the reason, but I wonder whether this is a generic issue or 
something specific to our computers (we run El Capitan for example).


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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-04 Thread Philip Paeps

On 2020-02-04 06:25:34 (-0800), Charlie Clark wrote:

On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:02, Robert Brenstein wrote:
5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but 
still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes 
even if user does nothing on the computer.


Okay, then it's best to stick with the last stable release and Benny 
is quite clear on this. Some of us are prepared to put up with the odd 
crash to try new things out, but if I had more than a couple of 
crashes a week, I'd go back to stable as well.


I don't remember MailMate every crashing more than a few times per 
week...  I generally follow the latest test releases and see maybe a 
crash per month or so.


And this is with a silly number of mailboxes: several hundred, some with 
hundreds of thousands of messages.


But most of my email is plain text mailing list traffic so maybe there's 
something about the specific kind of email you folks get.


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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-04 Thread Charlie Clark

On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:02, Robert Brenstein wrote:

5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but 
still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes 
even if user does nothing on the computer.


Okay, then it's best to stick with the last stable release and Benny is 
quite clear on this. Some of us are prepared to put up with the odd 
crash to try new things out, but if I had more than a couple of crashes 
a week, I'd go back to stable as well.


Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 4 Feb 2020, at 14:27, Charlie Clark wrote:


On 3 Feb 2020, at 22:21, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I've been having random crashes (usually when expunging mailboxes) 
with several prior versions of MM.  The latest test version (5676) 
seems to have fixed them; it's been rock-solid for me.


Same here. 5676 is much stabler on Mojave than previous betas.

Charlie



5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but 
still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes even 
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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-04 Thread Charlie Clark

On 3 Feb 2020, at 22:21, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I've been having random crashes (usually when expunging mailboxes) 
with several prior versions of MM.  The latest test version (5676) 
seems to have fixed them; it's been rock-solid for me.


Same here. 5676 is much stabler on Mojave than previous betas.

Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-03 Thread Ken Pope
Have been running Version 1.13.1 (5671) without any problems, but OS is 
Catalina 10.15.2. Ken


On 3 Feb 2020, at 15:57, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Version 1.13.1 (5671) keeps crashing more and more for my wife for no 
apparent reason, that is without any discernible pattern. Anybody else 
seeing that? I stay with version 5657 because newer versions were 
crashing on me too much. I suspect that Benny’s making major code 
changes is the reason, but I wonder whether this is a generic issue or 
something specific to our computers (we run El Capitan for example).


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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-03 Thread Philip Paeps

On 2020-02-03 12:57:58 (-0800), Robert Brenstein wrote:
Version 1.13.1 (5671) keeps crashing more and more for my wife for no 
apparent reason, that is without any discernible pattern. Anybody else 
seeing that? I stay with version 5657 because newer versions were 
crashing on me too much. I suspect that Benny’s making major code 
changes is the reason, but I wonder whether this is a generic issue or 
something specific to our computers (we run El Capitan for example).


I've not noticed any instability with recent builds.  I do run the 
latest version of macOS though (10.15.3, whatever that's called in 
Apple's fancy nomenclature).


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Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-03 Thread Eric Sharakan
I've been having random crashes (usually when expunging mailboxes) with 
several prior versions of MM.  The latest test version (5676) seems to 
have fixed them; it's been rock-solid for me.


Hold the option key down when clicking the "Check Now" button and you 
will be offered it.


-Eric

On 3 Feb 2020, at 15:57, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Version 1.13.1 (5671) keeps crashing more and more for my wife for no 
apparent reason, that is without any discernible pattern. Anybody else 
seeing that? I stay with version 5657 because newer versions were 
crashing on me too much. I suspect that Benny’s making major code 
changes is the reason, but I wonder whether this is a generic issue or 
something specific to our computers (we run El Capitan for example).


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[MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more

2020-02-03 Thread Robert Brenstein
Version 1.13.1 (5671) keeps crashing more and more for my wife for no 
apparent reason, that is without any discernible pattern. Anybody else 
seeing that? I stay with version 5657 because newer versions were 
crashing on me too much. I suspect that Benny’s making major code 
changes is the reason, but I wonder whether this is a generic issue or 
something specific to our computers (we run El Capitan for example).


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