Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
On 14 Jan 2021, at 14:59, Niall O'Reilly wrote: On 14 Jan 2021, at 1:09, Randy Bush wrote: sigh. i will make this error time and again I sigh with you. As do I! As I’ve been trialling MailMate as a replacement for Apple Mail, this is one of the few issues I’ve had so far that I haven’t been able to solve. There’s so much that is great about MailMate that it’s not enough to stop me switching, but this could be a headache for me as I have several identities and quite a lot of email addresses. I can’t see how get MailMate to ‘reset’ what from address should be used for a particular (or several) recipient. Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
+1. I reported this issue on this list before. Search the archives for the subject "default account derived from context is not behaving?". Here's the key point I posted at the end of that thread, and it still applies: Hmm, so maybe MM keeps a notion of the most recently used from address to use when a new blank message is created. Still, this is not the behavior I want. If I have an account/identity with the same domain part as the To: address of the new message, I want that identity chosen. Every time. Thoughts Benny? -Eric On 14 Jan 2021, at 9:59, Niall O'Reilly wrote: On 14 Jan 2021, at 1:09, Randy Bush wrote: sigh. i will make this error time and again I sigh with you. Since setting the recipient address(es) is what triggers the heuristic, my trick is to set the From: address AFTER that. If you can develop that habit, you will reduce the likelihood of error. 8-| /N ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
On 14 Jan 2021, at 1:09, Randy Bush wrote: > sigh. i will make this error time and again I sigh with you. Since setting the recipient address(es) is what triggers the heuristic, my trick is to set the From: address AFTER that. If you can develop that habit, you will reduce the likelihood of error. 8-| /N ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
>> mm changed the displayed in gui From: (from ra...@arrcus.com to
>> ra...@psg.com) when i typed the to: ra...@psg.com.
>
> As Jolin Warren explained upthread, MailMate can be configured
> either to use a single explicit account as the default origin of
> every new message, or to derive the origin “from context”.
> The “from context” heuristic seems either to be buggy or to use
> a bad strategy.
saw jolin's response and it was spot on.
> On 25 Aug 2017, I reported this problem to mm-feedb...@freron.com,
> under the subject
> “Heuristic for choosing 'From' address gives unexpected/perverse results”.
>
> Some three weeks later, I no longer had resources for following up
> on successive helpful replies from Benny. I decided that it would
> be a smaller nuisance for me to pay very strict attention to the From:
> address for every future message.
>
> This approach works, except when I don’t pay attention. 8-)
sigh. i will make this error time and again
> In particular, once a message has been sent to a particular
> destination address, the From: address used for that message
> seems to become bound forever as the preferred From: address
> for selection by the heuristic for future new messages directed
> to the same destination, without regard to subsequent explicit
> choices of From: address.
sigh. i write to the same people from work (and that is two ids with
two separate accounts) and from my personal identity.
what i need is an identity and from: address per imap account. my
emacs/wanderlust mua does that.
;; futzing with the header
(setq wl-draft-config-matchone t) ;; only match first
(setq wl-draft-config-alist
'(((string-match ".*@ran" wl-draft-parent-folder)
("From" . "Randy Bush "))
((string-match ".*@iij" wl-draft-parent-folder)
("From" . "Randy Bush "))
((string-match ".*@arrcus" wl-draft-parent-folder)
("From" . "Randy Bush "))
((string-match ".*@email\.lboro" wl-draft-parent-folder)
("From" . "Randy Bush "))
((string-match ".*@psg" wl-draft-parent-folder)
("From" . "Espresso Saarinen "))
))
randy
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Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
On 13 Jan 2021, at 0:58, Randy Bush wrote: > i watched more closely > > mm changed the displayed in gui From: (from ra...@arrcus.com to > ra...@psg.com) when i typed the to: ra...@psg.com. On 25 Aug 2017, I reported this problem to mm-feedb...@freron.com, under the subject “Heuristic for choosing 'From' address gives unexpected/perverse results”. Some three weeks later, I no longer had resources for following up on successive helpful replies from Benny. I decided that it would be a smaller nuisance for me to pay very strict attention to the From: address for every future message. This approach works, except when I don’t pay attention. 8-) As Jolin Warren explained upthread, MailMate can be configured either to use a single explicit account as the default origin of every new message, or to derive the origin “from context”. The “from context” heuristic seems either to be buggy or to use a bad strategy. In particular, once a message has been sent to a particular destination address, the From: address used for that message seems to become bound forever as the preferred From: address for selection by the heuristic for future new messages directed to the same destination, without regard to subsequent explicit choices of From: address. Niall PS. All MUAs suck; MailMate sucks less than most. /N ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
On 13 Jan 2021, at 0:58, Randy Bush wrote: mm changed the displayed in gui From: (from ra...@arrcus.com to ra...@psg.com) when i typed the to: ra...@psg.com. This is likely because of the settings for “New Message” in the Composer preferences. If it’s set to “derived from context”, MM will change the from: address based on who you are sending to. I’m not sure the exact heuristics, whether it analyses past messages or is based on what you’ve typed in the to: field in the past.  You have the option to set an explicit account for all new messages to come from if you want. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
> ryuu.rg.net:/Users/randy> defaults read com.freron.MailMate
> MmDefaultBccHeader
> {
> "fr...@arrcus.com" = "b...@arrcus.com";
> "f...@psg.com" = "b...@psg.com";
> }
>
> when i am in the arrcus.com INBOX and c(ompose, the compose window shows
> that the message will be "From: ra...@arrcus.com"
>
> but the received message is "From: ra...@psg.com"
>
> From: "Randy Bush"
> Subject: test 2
> To: "Randy Bush"
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:07:24 -0800
i watched more closely
mm changed the displayed in gui From: (from ra...@arrcus.com to
ra...@psg.com) when i typed the to: ra...@psg.com.
randy
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[MlMt] incorrect From:
i have
ryuu.rg.net:/Users/randy> defaults read com.freron.MailMate
MmDefaultBccHeader
{
"fr...@arrcus.com" = "b...@arrcus.com";
"f...@psg.com" = "b...@psg.com";
}
when i am in the arrcus.com INBOX and c(ompose, the compose window shows
that the message will be "From: ra...@arrcus.com"
but the received message is "From: ra...@psg.com"
From: "Randy Bush"
Subject: test 2
To: "Randy Bush"
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:07:24 -0800
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