Re: [MlMt] lack of focus
On 10 Apr 2016, at 15:43, John Cooper | wrote: This sounds like the problem where the system believes that a dialog, such as a password input dialog, is open somewhere, so it disables text input elsewhere, even in the current application. I generally have 16 apps open, sometimes more. I run into this occasionally but not regularly. It usually turns out to be a dialog box hidden behind a bunch of other windows. It's certainly annoying, but not often enough for me to investigate further. When push comes to shove I reboot, but usually I can get out of it by finding the app with the open dialog. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] lack of focus
Kee Hinckley wrote (at 12:13 on 10 Apr 2016): I've also twice hit a bizarre input problem where my keyboards are still recognized (I can bring down the keyboard menu and see them move as I type), and command keys work, and keys work in apps without input areas (e.g. LaunchBar). **But I can't type in any input area in any app, not even iTerm.** I don't know yet if that's a Mac problem, or due to the plethora of apps I have that intercept the keyboard stream, but it's _real_ annoying. Reboot is the only solution I've found. This sounds like the problem where the system believes that a dialog, such as a password input dialog, is open somewhere, so it disables text input elsewhere, even in the current application. On my system, the LastPass plug-in is often the apparent culprit. (I also use Keyboard Maestro, which alerts me when I press a text expansion shortcut that it intercepted due to this problem. KM explicitly suggests that I check LastPass, which has always been the culprit so far.)___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] lack of focus
Kee Hinckley wrote about input focus: Ditto. You have to go click elsewhere and then come back. Very annoying. And I'm pretty sure it's not just MailMate. Yes, it could be anything. A couple examples (please pardon what may be too much information, heh) - I can be reading email with MailMate, and input focus is on it. Safari is also open. I see something in an email that leads me to click on a link in Safari's currently open web page. I do, and another web page is opened. I can then scroll through that web page with the trackpad (bearing in mind that the mouse cursor is then hovering somewhere on Safari's window, because I just clicked on a link there), but input focus remains on MailMate. This is a distinct change from older OS X versions, although I can't say for sure at what point it occurred. It's not the trackpad's focus following the mouse cursor that I consider to much of a problem, it's that I clicked on a link displayed in Safari without the input focus moving to it. With more than one Finder folder open, in the icon view mode, I am frequently doing drag and drop copying. The input focus almost always goes to the target folder. Then, if I want to move input focus back to the source folder, sometimes clicking anywhere in the window works, and other times only clicking on the title bar does. Sometimes Command ` works, sometimes it does not. And, sometimes the "duplicate file exists" warning dialogue appears on top of all the folder windows, sometimes it's partially hidden by one or more folder windows, and sometimes it's buried underneath all of them. Sometimes I'll have to minimize all the folder windows to get at it, because Command ` will not include it, even when it does step through everything else. I've also twice hit a bizarre input problem where my keyboards are still recognized (I can bring down the keyboard menu and see them move as I type), and command keys work, and keys work in apps without input areas (e.g. LaunchBar). **But I can't type in any input area in any app, not even iTerm.** I don't know yet if that's a Mac problem, or due to the plethora of apps I have that intercept the keyboard stream, but it's _real_ annoying. Reboot is the only solution I've found. I've seen this once.. I'm typically running just four programs - MailMate, Safari, Terminal (several sessions) and a utility named Find Any File. And of course Finder... ビリー ヨーデルマん +1 310 839 7673 http://MIX.ORG/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] lack of focus
On 10 Apr 2016, at 14:18, Billy Youdelman wrote: Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I'm seeing something like a *lack of focus* :-): I switch from another application to MailMate, the screen changes to the space where MailMate resides **BUT** the focus remains on the previous application :-( I mostly discover this after trying some keyboard-shortcuts specific to MailMate and wondering why they don't work… until I see the name of the current active application near the black apple upper left. Does somebody else experience something similar? Oh, yes, every day, several times a day. Apple have gotten incredibly sloppy with this. And if you prefer the icon view (Command 1) for items in folders, there's even more slop there. Sad, but true. The one sure thing here is this is not MailMate's fault... Ditto. You have to go click elsewhere and then come back. Very annoying. And I'm pretty sure it's not just MailMate. I've also twice hit a bizarre input problem where my keyboards are still recognized (I can bring down the keyboard menu and see them move as I type), and command keys work, and keys work in apps without input areas (e.g. LaunchBar). **But I can't type in any input area in any app, not even iTerm.** I don't know yet if that's a Mac problem, or due to the plethora of apps I have that intercept the keyboard stream, but it's _real_ annoying. Reboot is the only solution I've found.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] lack of focus
Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I'm seeing something like a *lack of focus* :-): I switch from another application to MailMate, the screen changes to the space where MailMate resides **BUT** the focus remains on the previous application :-( I mostly discover this after trying some keyboard-shortcuts specific to MailMate and wondering why they don't work… until I see the name of the current active application near the black apple upper left. Does somebody else experience something similar? Oh, yes, every day, several times a day. Apple have gotten incredibly sloppy with this. And if you prefer the icon view (Command 1) for items in folders, there's even more slop there. Sad, but true. The one sure thing here is this is not MailMate's fault... ビリー ヨーデルマん +1 310 839 7673 http://MIX.ORG/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] lack of focus
Hello! I'm seeing something like a *lack of focus* :-): I switch from another application to MailMate, the screen changes to the space where MailMate resides **BUT** the focus remains on the previous application :-( I mostly discover this after trying some keyboard-shortcuts specific to MailMate and wondering why they don't work… until I see the name of the curent active application near the black apple upper left. Does somebody else experience something similar? Thanks! Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
