Re: [MlMt] Automatically stored attachments
On 30 May 2014, at 16:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 30 May 2014, at 5:11, Gary Hull wrote: By the way, the Attachments column in the list shows both attached files, and attached images used in HTML e-mail, things like company logos. In general I don't care about the latter, and when I'm scanning for e-mails with attachments it's just noise to see those listed with the paper clip icon. It's unfortunately not easy to distinguish between attachments and logo-attachments. In theory it should be, but in practice it isn't. (I'm not saying it couldn't be improved though.) I hate to disagree with you, but in theory it is actually impossible without perfect semantic analysis of all languages to determine why an image is embedded in a particular location and visual analysis to determine its content value. It's not that I doubt your capacity to attack that problem, but it would eat a lot of effort. I hope you'll be satisfied with better and not chase perfection in analyzing mail that is fundamentally evil anyway. (HTML email delenda est) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Automatically stored attachments
On 29 May 2014, at 17:09, Luca Allodi wrote: All the attachments quicklook'd in MailMate are stored in ~/Library/Application Support/Mailmate/Attachments. Depending on correspondence volume, this may stack up to several GBs. More importantly, confidential attachments to (GPG-)encrypted e-mails are stored there as well until the email is (if ever) deleted. This is an insecure behaviour that some may desire not to happen. I'm not sure whether this is a common issue, but in general I see the Attachments folder as a temporary directory, not as a permanent storage location (especially for encrypted attachments). Yes, this folder is a cache which is unfortunately not as temporary as it should be. Is there a way to avoid this? Is this an issue for other users as well or is it only me? No, this is how it works and it is not (yet) configurable. There are several things I would like to change for the Attachments folder and deleting old items is one of them — perhaps based on how long ago the corresponding message has been viewed (and this could then be configurable). Maybe encrypted attachments should have a separate setting. But this is not trivial. Two potential problems: * MailMate might delete an attachment which is currently being viewed by a different application (in practice this might not be a problem if deletion is done long after the email has been viewed). * The user might have made changes to the cached attachment (I could check this before deletion). I guess one easy option could be to offer to save attachments in a temporary folder which is deleted when restarting the computer, but I doubt that would be sufficient for you. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Automatically stored attachments
+1 My feeling is that attachments should be removed as soon as they are not used anymore. Maybe a configurable option.? Best regards, Alberto On May 29, 2014 5:09 PM, Luca Allodi luca.all...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Benny, All the attachments quicklook'd in MailMate are stored in ~/Library/Application Support/Mailmate/Attachments. Depending on correspondence volume, this may stack up to several GBs. More importantly, confidential attachments to (GPG-)encrypted e-mails are stored there as well until the email is (if ever) deleted. This is an insecure behaviour that some may desire not to happen. I'm not sure whether this is a common issue, but in general I see the Attachments folder as a temporary directory, not as a permanent storage location (especially for encrypted attachments). Is there a way to avoid this? Is this an issue for other users as well or is it only me? Best, Luca -- http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Automatically stored attachments
+1 here as well Paula On 29/05/2014, at 12:58, Alberto Caporro acapo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 My feeling is that attachments should be removed as soon as they are not used anymore. Maybe a configurable option.? Best regards, Alberto On May 29, 2014 5:09 PM, Luca Allodi luca.all...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Benny, All the attachments quicklook'd in MailMate are stored in ~/Library/Application Support/Mailmate/Attachments. Depending on correspondence volume, this may stack up to several GBs. More importantly, confidential attachments to (GPG-)encrypted e-mails are stored there as well until the email is (if ever) deleted. This is an insecure behaviour that some may desire not to happen. I'm not sure whether this is a common issue, but in general I see the Attachments folder as a temporary directory, not as a permanent storage location (especially for encrypted attachments). Is there a way to avoid this? Is this an issue for other users as well or is it only me? Best, Luca -- http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Automatically stored attachments
Maybe a [Quick Look] [Save] [Save Delete] choice? But of course many people ahem use their e-mail mailboxes as longterm file storage areas, for things that they 95 percent don't think they need and don't want to bother finding a folder to save them in, but they might need and don't want to delete permanently. By the way, the Attachments column in the list shows both attached files, and attached images used in HTML e-mail, things like company logos. In general I don't care about the latter, and when I'm scanning for e-mails with attachments it's just noise to see those listed with the paper clip icon. On 30 May 2014, at 0:58, Alberto Caporro wrote: +1 My feeling is that attachments should be removed as soon as they are not used anymore. Maybe a configurable option.? Best regards, Alberto On May 29, 2014 5:09 PM, Luca Allodi luca.all...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Benny, All the attachments quicklook'd in MailMate are stored in ~/Library/Application Support/Mailmate/Attachments. Depending on correspondence volume, this may stack up to several GBs. More importantly, confidential attachments to (GPG-)encrypted e-mails are stored there as well until the email is (if ever) deleted. This is an insecure behaviour that some may desire not to happen. I'm not sure whether this is a common issue, but in general I see the Attachments folder as a temporary directory, not as a permanent storage location (especially for encrypted attachments). Is there a way to avoid this? Is this an issue for other users as well or is it only me? Best, Luca -- http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
