Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
John, If you look at the alert icons in the task bar at the top of your display, you should find options to go directly to the message, or just delete it, and lots of other options… for individual messages or groups of them. v On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Currently if you click on a notification about a new message, MM2 activates, switches to Inbox, and highlights that messages. I'd prefer it simply activate and open that message. I'm not normally in Inbox (I use smart mailboxes a lot), and what I want to do is read the message, not see it in a list. Bonus: allow for a "Delete" option right from the notification. Thanks! John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:53, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: John, If you look at the alert icons in the task bar at the top of your display, you should find options to go directly to the message, or just delete it, and lots of other options… for individual messages or groups of them. v On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Currently if you click on a notification about a new message, MM2 activates, switches to Inbox, and highlights that messages. I'd prefer it simply activate and open that message. I'm not normally in Inbox (I use smart mailboxes a lot), and what I want to do is read the message, not see it in a list. I'm not sure what you mean here. I have MM set to show Banners, not Alerts, but what's the alert icon in the task bar? (What's the task bar for that matter, the menu bar?) John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
I sent a picture with a screenshot, but it needs moderator approval. But basically, the unused portion of the menu-bate area, over to the right. v On 25 Apr 2017, at 11:53, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:53, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: John, If you look at the alert icons in the task bar at the top of your display, you should find options to go directly to the message, or just delete it, and lots of other options… for individual messages or groups of them. v On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Currently if you click on a notification about a new message, MM2 activates, switches to Inbox, and highlights that messages. I'd prefer it simply activate and open that message. I'm not normally in Inbox (I use smart mailboxes a lot), and what I want to do is read the message, not see it in a list. I'm not sure what you mean here. I have MM set to show Banners, not Alerts, but what's the alert icon in the task bar? (What's the task bar for that matter, the menu bar?) John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 25 Apr 2017, at 9:53, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:53, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: John, If you look at the alert icons in the task bar at the top of your display, you should find options to go directly to the message, or just delete it, and lots of other options… for individual messages or groups of them. v On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Currently if you click on a notification about a new message, MM2 activates, switches to Inbox, and highlights that messages. I'd prefer it simply activate and open that message. I'm not normally in Inbox (I use smart mailboxes a lot), and what I want to do is read the message, not see it in a list. I'm not sure what you mean here. He's talking about the MailMate menu bar item, which can be enabled via Preferences > Counters > "Display: In menu bar". ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 25 Apr 2017, at 12:25, Randall Meadows wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 9:53, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:53, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: John, If you look at the alert icons in the task bar at the top of your display, you should find options to go directly to the message, or just delete it, and lots of other options… for individual messages or groups of them. v On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Currently if you click on a notification about a new message, MM2 activates, switches to Inbox, and highlights that messages. I'd prefer it simply activate and open that message. I'm not normally in Inbox (I use smart mailboxes a lot), and what I want to do is read the message, not see it in a list. I'm not sure what you mean here. He's talking about the MailMate menu bar item, which can be enabled via Preferences > Counters > "Display: In menu bar". Ah, I don't have that on. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 25 Apr 2017, at 16:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Currently if you click on a notification about a new message, MM2 activates, switches to Inbox, and highlights that messages. I'd prefer it simply activate and open that message. I'm not normally in Inbox (I use smart mailboxes a lot), and what I want to do is read the message, not see it in a list. I've added that MailMate opens the message in a single message window when the main window does not have an open message view, but it'll still switch to, e.g., the Inbox. Hopefully this is a bit better although not quite what you asked for. Bonus: allow for a "Delete" option right from the notification. I've actually spent a lot of time trying to make this work like in Apple Mail, but I keep running into problems. The public API does not support it and the private API certainly does not make it easy. I can kind of make it work in 'banner' mode, but then it's very hard to dismiss notifications in 'alert' mode. I've given up for now. Somewhat related, I expect the hidden preference `MmNotificationInlineReply` to let users do inline replies in notifications in the next release. Also note, that the existing hidden preference `MmNotificationDeleteButtonEnabled` replaces the default Reply button with a Delete button. You might prefer that. Finally, it's possible to let the action button be a menu of multiple actions. I might make a preference for that at some point (which would allow both delete and reply to be available, but it wouldn't be quite as convenient as a single-click button and it cannot work together with inline replies). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 28 Apr 2017, at 7:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Bonus: allow for a "Delete" option right from the notification. I've actually spent a lot of time trying to make this work like in Apple Mail, but I keep running into problems. The public API does not support it and the private API certainly does not make it easy. I can kind of make it work in 'banner' mode, but then it's very hard to dismiss notifications in 'alert' mode. I've given up for now. I'm a banner guy, so this would be good for me. :-) John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Bonus: allow for a "Delete" option right from the notification. Iʻve activated the secret setting for having the notification be "delete" instead of "reply", which is great. Is it possible _not_ to activate MM upon the click? John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 5 May 2017, at 18:15, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Bonus: allow for a "Delete" option right from the notification. Iʻve activated the secret setting for having the notification be "delete" instead of "reply", which is great. Is it possible _not_ to activate MM upon the click? I've looked into this and the answer is no, it doesn't seem to be possible. The hack I looked into for doing both Delete and Reply buttons involved making “dismiss” (Close) into Delete. I think that would not activate MailMate which might be why it works in Apple Mail. But as previously noted I think it became too much of a hack (with potentially unpredictable behavior with OS upgrades). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 9 May 2017, at 10:40, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 5 May 2017, at 18:15, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 10:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Bonus: allow for a "Delete" option right from the notification. Iʻve activated the secret setting for having the notification be "delete" instead of "reply", which is great. Is it possible _not_ to activate MM upon the click? I've looked into this and the answer is no, it doesn't seem to be possible. The hack I looked into for doing both Delete and Reply buttons involved making “dismiss” (Close) into Delete. I think that would not activate MailMate which might be why it works in Apple Mail. But as previously noted I think it became too much of a hack (with potentially unpredictable behavior with OS upgrades). Frankly, it's a lot less useful if it activates MM, since I then have to re-dismiss it. Not having to go to the app is a big part of the point of having the notification action, no? John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Behavior upon clicking notification
On 9 May 2017, at 17:41, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 9 May 2017, at 10:40, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 5 May 2017, at 18:15, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Iʻve activated the secret setting for having the notification be "delete" instead of "reply", which is great. Is it possible _not_ to activate MM upon the click? I've looked into this and the answer is no, it doesn't seem to be possible. The hack I looked into for doing both Delete and Reply buttons involved making “dismiss” (Close) into Delete. I think that would not activate MailMate which might be why it works in Apple Mail. But as previously noted I think it became too much of a hack (with potentially unpredictable behavior with OS upgrades). Frankly, it's a lot less useful if it activates MM, since I then have to re-dismiss it. Not having to go to the app is a big part of the point of having the notification action, no? True, but currently I don't think I can do anything about that. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
