Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin 

Let me add one caveat:


The two installations should not butt up against each other or have 
conflicts. You can install any number of different IMAP clients on any 
number of computers with no problem, since the canonical home for your 
email is in the cloud. That's how IMAP works and why it was developed.


I've found that it's a bad idea to have multiple machines running 
simultaneously with rules that sort and categorize incoming messages.  
What I do is have all of the rules on one machine; ditto SpamSieve.  For 
me, what works best is SpamSieve on my always-on desktop, but sorting 
rules on my laptop.  Why the split?  Spam I never want to see, so I 
always want to get rid of it quickly.  But important mail I want to see 
immediately on my phone, so when I'm not using my laptop I'll be alerted 
to inbound mail.  (I also use server-side rules for less-important 
mailboxes that I'd never want to look at on the phone, but that's a 
separate story.)


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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-14 Thread Gary Hull 
I think you can just install it and set it up with all the same settings 
and the same accounts. Your mail is not on your first computer (other 
than as copies). It's on the IMAP servers at your mail ISPs. If you 
install another copy of MailMate, it will download all the mail from the 
IMAP ISPs. It will not have any custom smart mailboxes that you made, 
unless you recreate them.


The two installations should not butt up against each other or have 
conflicts. You can install any number of different IMAP clients on any 
number of computers with no problem, since the canonical home for your 
email is in the cloud. That's how IMAP works and why it was developed.


On 14 May 2016, at 7:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

Howie
Thanks.
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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-14 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen 

On 14 May 2016, at 2:41, Howard Wettstein wrote:

Is this the equivalent of simply copying the directory from one 
computer to the other?


A simple copy should work, but I think it's best if you only copy the 
settings and not the message cache. To do this you simply need the 
`.plist` files in this folder:


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/

In this case you might also want to copy the preferences file 
(essentially the settings in the Preferences pane and any hidden 
preferences you might have enabled):


~/Library/Application Support/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist

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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin 
Frankly, I don't know.  Copying doesn't necessarily preserve the "last 
changed" time, and I don't know for sure if MailMate looks at the 
relative change times of various files.


On 13 May 2016, at 20:41, Howard Wettstein wrote:

Is this the equivalent of simply copying the directory from one 
computer to the other?



On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:


I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate.

Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup.  
Then do

this:

	rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' 
othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support'


where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination 
computer.  If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the 
above.



On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote:

Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. 
Thanks.

Howie


On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin 
 wrote:


I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories 
over...


On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

Howie
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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Howard Wettstein 
Is this the equivalent of simply copying the directory from one computer 
to the other?



On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:


I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate.

Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup.  
Then do

this:

	rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' 
othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support'


where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination 
computer.  If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the 
above.



On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote:

Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. 
Thanks.

Howie


On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin 
 wrote:


I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories 
over...


On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

Howie
Thanks.
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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Howard Wettstein 
Thanks a lot. None of this is trivial for me. Question about 
“othermachine.local”: is “local” the actual word?


How does rsync work? I’ve never done this.



On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:


I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate.

Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup.  
Then do

this:

	rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' 
othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support'


where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination 
computer.  If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the 
above.



On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote:

Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. 
Thanks.

Howie


On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin 
 wrote:


I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories 
over...


On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

Howie
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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin 

I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate.

Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup.  
Then do

this:

	rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' 
othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support'


where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination 
computer.  If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the 
above.



On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote:

Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. 
Thanks.

Howie


On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin  
wrote:


I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories 
over...


On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

Howie
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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Howard Wettstein 
Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks.
Howie


> On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin  wrote:
> 
> I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over...
> 
> On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:
> 
>> How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) 
>> so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?
>> Howie
>> Thanks.
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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Howard Wettstein 

If possible, please explain. No idea how to do that.
Howie


On 13 May 2016, at 16:00, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories 
over...


On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

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Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer

2016-05-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin 
I cheated.  I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories 
over...


On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote:

How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with 
laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer?

Howie
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