Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
Ditto on MDR's comment. I'm also seeing mail happily received at TWC addresses. Thanks again Scott. On 19/12/17 03:10, Michael Rathbun wrote: Issue appears to be resolved. Thanks much. mdr ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
Glad to hear that. Thank you for sharing. It is not always easy to tell what is going on from the outside. On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Scott Undercofler wrote: > Yes. We are much smarter than that. > > >> On Dec 18, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Charles McKean >> wrote: >> >> Or, perhaps TWC has made the very questionable choice to implement >> SORBS on a real ISP mail server. That would be one way to hold down >> load. Just randomly block a whole bunch of IP addresses that aren't >> actually spam sources. >> >> The people at TWC are smarter than this, yes? Please tell me it isn't so. >> >> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Scott Undercofler wrote: >>> Between outlook and .nl and .eu, we have been hammering away at spam the >>> last few weeks so some senders have been, perhaps unfairly, caught up in the >>> net. We weathered the holiday mail really well but have been pretty harsh on >>> snowshoers and hit and run spammers. >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Andrew Barrett >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm guessing that, like everyone else, TWC is just getting slammed with mail >>> sent by ESPs for senders with holiday offers and the like, and is just not >>> as well equipped to handle it. Seems like every holiday season brings new >>> record volumes. >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:57:34 +1100, Mark Dale wrote: > Is it just us or are others experiencing this? > > Any clues as to why would be greatly appreciated. We're seeing it, with a sudden onset on the 14th. The IPs send requested and/or transactional email, have excellent reputations, and are blocked nowhere else. The response is completely uncharacteristic of the rejections outlined on the postmaster page. The TWC IP reputation lookup gives clean bill of health. Since there are no blocks, no remediation can be requested. mdr -- The Duckage Is Feep. -- Vaul Pixie ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> mailop mailing list >>> mailop@mailop.org >>> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> mailop mailing list >>> mailop@mailop.org >>> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >>> >> >> ___ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
On 12/17/17 5:13 PM, Andrew Barrett wrote: I'm guessing that, like everyone else, TWC is just getting slammed with mail sent by ESPs for senders with holiday offers and the like Which means that like everyone else, TWC's customers are just getting slammed with mail sent by ESPs for senders with holiday offers and the like. Those customers are complaining. TWC is acting on those complaints. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:28:21 -0700, Scott Undercofler wrote: >Yes. We are much smarter than that. Issue appears to be resolved. Thanks much. mdr -- "Honest folk do not wear masks when they enter a bank." -- Unspiek, Baron Bodissey ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
Yes. We are much smarter than that. > On Dec 18, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Charles McKean > wrote: > > Or, perhaps TWC has made the very questionable choice to implement > SORBS on a real ISP mail server. That would be one way to hold down > load. Just randomly block a whole bunch of IP addresses that aren't > actually spam sources. > > The people at TWC are smarter than this, yes? Please tell me it isn't so. > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Scott Undercofler wrote: >> Between outlook and .nl and .eu, we have been hammering away at spam the >> last few weeks so some senders have been, perhaps unfairly, caught up in the >> net. We weathered the holiday mail really well but have been pretty harsh on >> snowshoers and hit and run spammers. >> >> On Dec 17, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Andrew Barrett >> wrote: >> >> I'm guessing that, like everyone else, TWC is just getting slammed with mail >> sent by ESPs for senders with holiday offers and the like, and is just not >> as well equipped to handle it. Seems like every holiday season brings new >> record volumes. >> >> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:57:34 +1100, Mark Dale >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is it just us or are others experiencing this? Any clues as to why would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> We're seeing it, with a sudden onset on the 14th. The IPs send requested >>> and/or transactional email, have excellent reputations, and are blocked >>> nowhere else. >>> >>> The response is completely uncharacteristic of the rejections outlined on >>> the >>> postmaster page. >>> >>> The TWC IP reputation lookup gives clean bill of health. Since there are >>> no >>> blocks, no remediation can be requested. >>> >>> mdr >>> -- >>>The Duckage Is Feep. >>> -- Vaul Pixie >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> mailop mailing list >>> mailop@mailop.org >>> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >> >> >> ___ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >> >> >> ___ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >> > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:38:22 -0500, Charles McKean wrote: >Or, perhaps TWC has made the very questionable choice to implement >SORBS on a real ISP mail server. That would be one way to hold down >load. Just randomly block a whole bunch of IP addresses that aren't >actually spam sources. > >The people at TWC are smarter than this, yes? Please tell me it isn't so. In our case, there is no SORBS listing (or any other sort of listing), The SMTP response lacks the usual 5.n.n code, includes a host name, and cites an undocumented "AUP" code. mdr -- ...right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. -- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] TWC refusing mail
Or, perhaps TWC has made the very questionable choice to implement SORBS on a real ISP mail server. That would be one way to hold down load. Just randomly block a whole bunch of IP addresses that aren't actually spam sources. The people at TWC are smarter than this, yes? Please tell me it isn't so. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Scott Undercofler wrote: > Between outlook and .nl and .eu, we have been hammering away at spam the > last few weeks so some senders have been, perhaps unfairly, caught up in the > net. We weathered the holiday mail really well but have been pretty harsh on > snowshoers and hit and run spammers. > > On Dec 17, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Andrew Barrett > wrote: > > I'm guessing that, like everyone else, TWC is just getting slammed with mail > sent by ESPs for senders with holiday offers and the like, and is just not > as well equipped to handle it. Seems like every holiday season brings new > record volumes. > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: >> >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:57:34 +1100, Mark Dale >> wrote: >> >> >> >Is it just us or are others experiencing this? >> > >> >Any clues as to why would be greatly appreciated. >> >> We're seeing it, with a sudden onset on the 14th. The IPs send requested >> and/or transactional email, have excellent reputations, and are blocked >> nowhere else. >> >> The response is completely uncharacteristic of the rejections outlined on >> the >> postmaster page. >> >> The TWC IP reputation lookup gives clean bill of health. Since there are >> no >> blocks, no remediation can be requested. >> >> mdr >> -- >> The Duckage Is Feep. >>-- Vaul Pixie >> >> >> ___ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
