Re: [mailop] mailop list server unreachable

2020-08-18 Thread Ken Simpson via mailop 
>
> > Is anyone else seeing this when they try to connect to the listserv?
> >
> > $ curl https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
> > *curl: (7) Failed to connect to chilli.nosignal.org
> >  port 443: Connection refused*
>
> I believe that the server moved recently, but the list information in
> the headers hasn't been updated yet. It appears that the list's
> mailman pages can be gotten to at:
>
>
>
>
Thank you everyone for helping out with this.

Regards,
Ken
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Re: [mailop] mailop list server unreachable

2020-08-18 Thread Richard via mailop 


> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 14:27:09 -0700
> From: Ken Simpson 
>
> Is anyone else seeing this when they try to connect to the listserv?
> 
> $ curl https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
> *curl: (7) Failed to connect to chilli.nosignal.org
>  port 443: Connection refused*

I believe that the server moved recently, but the list information in
the headers hasn't been updated yet. It appears that the list's
mailman pages can be gotten to at:

   



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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Carl Byington via mailop 
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On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 12:03 +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk" 

So sendgrid account 15204622 was sending mail as:

Received: from dhl.com (unknown)
by ismtpd0005p1lon1.sendgrid.net (SG)
with ESMTP id 0c6xV8agQF6yK8GOsXvJLw
for <$munged>;
Tue, 18 Aug 2020 05:18:02.219 + (UTC)
From: DHL 
Subject: Shipment for $munged

They allow outbound mail with a from: header in dlh.com, even though:

dig _dmarc.dhl.com txt +short
reject.valimail.dmarc.dhl.com.
"v=DMARC1; p=reject; fo=0; rua=mailto:dmarc-
repo...@dhl.com,mailto:dmarc_agg@vali.email;;

dhl is asking folks to reject that mail, but sendgrid tries to send it
anyway.



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[mailop] mailop list server unreachable

2020-08-18 Thread Ken Simpson via mailop 
Is anyone else seeing this when they try to connect to the listserv?

$ curl https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
*curl: (7) Failed to connect to chilli.nosignal.org
 port 443: Connection refused*

Thanks
Ken

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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Faisal Misle via mailop 
Checking my Proofpoint PPS cluster, a bunch of Sendgrid phishing emails are 
being rejected by PDR, meaning they're already blocked at the IP level.

mxa-0058bc01.gslb.pphosted.com:[205.220.165.245] : 554  Blocked - see 
https://ipcheck.proofpoint.com/?ip=192.254.123.97


Best,
Faisal

PGP Key: C8FD029B

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:03 AM, Andy Smith via mailop  
wrote:

>
>
> Received: fromwrqvhkqq.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net ([149.72.1.68])
> by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0)
> with esmtp id sauce-2544-1597663-1; 17 Aug 2020 11:32:54 + (GMT)
> Message-ID: 20200817203728.96117de88be30...@chilitato.com
> From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk" i...@chilitato.com
> Subject: chiark.greenend.org.uk quota full: (98% full)
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
> mailop mailing list
> mailop@mailop.org
> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop



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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Al Iverson via mailop 
Huh, I'm not seeing that Sendgrid account ID in my traps at all in the
last few days. Different traps for different folks, I guess?

Cheers,
Al

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:06 PM Luke via mailop  wrote:
>
> In the Return-Path. "bounces+1234567" the number following bounces+ is the 
> SendGrid account ID.
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:57 AM Carl Byington via mailop  
> wrote:
>>
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>> On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
>> > The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362.
>>
>> Where do you find that account number in the headers? I see some from
>> today with "Upgrade (FINAL WARNING)" in the subject, but no indication
>> of any sendgrid account number.
>>
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>> iHMEAREKADMWIQSuFMepaSkjWnTxQ5QvqPuaKVMWwQUCXzwT2hUcY2FybEBmaXZl
>> LXRlbi1zZy5jb20ACgkQL6j7milTFsFoigCeONxnBFkM/QJI3Mky1A9XafBR+IQA
>> oIUMyZCHGvGEjasL9fCb22Njyfer
>> =+kBp
>> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>>
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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop 
It's in the envelope sender, which your mail system probably doesn't 
preserve when it stores mail. Traditional mbox format has it in the 'From ' 
line.


Cheers,
Hans-Martin

Am 18. August 2020 20:03:46 schrieb Carl Byington via mailop 
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On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:

The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362.


Where do you find that account number in the headers? I see some from
today with "Upgrade (FINAL WARNING)" in the subject, but no indication
of any sendgrid account number.


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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Luke via mailop 
In the Return-Path. "bounces+1234567" the number following bounces+ is the
SendGrid account ID.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:57 AM Carl Byington via mailop 
wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
> > The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362.
>
> Where do you find that account number in the headers? I see some from
> today with "Upgrade (FINAL WARNING)" in the subject, but no indication
> of any sendgrid account number.
>
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>
> iHMEAREKADMWIQSuFMepaSkjWnTxQ5QvqPuaKVMWwQUCXzwT2hUcY2FybEBmaXZl
> LXRlbi1zZy5jb20ACgkQL6j7milTFsFoigCeONxnBFkM/QJI3Mky1A9XafBR+IQA
> oIUMyZCHGvGEjasL9fCb22Njyfer
> =+kBp
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>
>
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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Carl Byington via mailop 
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On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 15:23 +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
> The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362.

Where do you find that account number in the headers? I see some from
today with "Upgrade (FINAL WARNING)" in the subject, but no indication
of any sendgrid account number.


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Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop 
The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362.

Method: get all SendGrid mail from yesterday and today, restrict to
anything that says "quota full" in the subject, look at accounts sending.

Sample size is measured in the dozens, across about ten recipient domains.
They were all sent by the same SendGrid account.


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:03:55PM +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> 
> Received: from wrqvhkqq.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net ([149.72.1.68])
>  by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0)
>  with esmtp id sauce-2544-1597663-1; 17 Aug 2020 11:32:54 + (GMT)
> Message-ID: <20200817203728.96117de88be30...@chilitato.com>
> From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk" 
> Subject: chiark.greenend.org.uk quota full: (98% full)
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
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[mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Andy Smith via mailop 

Received: from wrqvhkqq.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net ([149.72.1.68])
 by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0)
 with esmtp id sauce-2544-1597663-1; 17 Aug 2020 11:32:54 + (GMT)
Message-ID: <20200817203728.96117de88be30...@chilitato.com>
From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk" 
Subject: chiark.greenend.org.uk quota full: (98% full)

Cheers,
Andy

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