Re: [mailop] [External] Re: verizon email-to-text gateway mail deferred evening and night

2023-01-07 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Kevin A. McGrail via mailop  
said:
>I would just point out that the gateway I use is part of my cell service 
>so I don't consider it free but part of the service. ...

Huh? American telcos have offered mail->SMS gateways because, unlike
in the rest of the world, they charge for incoming SMS so it was a way
to do a little traffic pumping. I don't think any of the carriers ever
made any promises about how well it would work, and it should be
obvious to anyone that they always have needed heavy and not
particularly accurate filtering to keep the spam out.

But more to the point, why do you care? The number of phones these
days that can get SMS but not email rounds to zero, so if someone
wants to send you mail, they can send you mail and don't need to fool
around with a flaky gateway.

R's,
John
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Re: [mailop] [External] Re: verizon email-to-text gateway mail deferred evening and night

2023-01-07 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop

On 1/6/2023 9:34 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote:

WHen you use someone else's free e-mail gateway, it shouldn't be
surprising that sometimes you only get what you paid for.
I would just point out that the gateway I use is part of my cell service 
so I don't consider it free but part of the service. A failure in that 
service is not something I take lightly and I open complaints with my 
cell provider.  Perhaps others with Verizon are in the same boat but 
haven't consider it that way. -KAM

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Re: [mailop] verizon email-to-text gateway mail deferred evening and night

2023-01-07 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop


On Sat, 6 Jan 2023, John Levine via mailop wrote:


If it's not worth 1c to get your messages out, perhaps this would be a
good time to reconsider why exactly you're sending them in the first
place.


If only we could say that to spammers.

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Andrew C. Aitchison  Kendal, UK
   and...@aitchison.me.uk
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