Re: [mailop] Yahoo/AOL Blocking

2024-06-24 Thread Jeff Pang via mailop

won't lili here help you?


Anybody from Yahoo/AOL able to assist with what's causing the IP address 
- 67.222.148.107 - to be blocked?


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Re: [mailop] [E] Yahoo/AOL Blocking

2024-06-24 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 6:43 PM Scott Mutter via mailop 
wrote:


> Anybody from Yahoo/AOL able to assist with what's causing the IP address -
> 67.222.148.107 - to be blocked?
>

I assume you have already reached out to the official Yahoo postmaster
support team via the link conveniently provided in the SMTP response?
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Re: [mailop] slow submission, was reverse proxy for smtp client

2024-06-24 Thread John Levine via mailop
According to Marco Moock via mailop :
>Am 24.06.2024 um 12:03:49 Uhr schrieb Alessandro Vesely via mailop:
>
>> IME, large sending times are often caused by IMAP.  Most clients
>> operate by first sending the message and then saving it in the Sent
>> IMAP folder.  Just changing that method to Bcc: halves the time
>> required.
>
>Why should using Bcc: change that the client saves the message in
>Draft/Sent via IMAP?

The MUA submits one copy of the message with a second RCPT TO that
gets delivered to the Sent folder, rather than one copy submitted and
one by IMAP append/

For large messages I suppose it's noticable. A sufficiently clever MTA
could do the submit and IMAP append at the same time but I doubt that
happens very often.
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Re: [mailop] Yahoo/AOL Blocking

2024-06-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
Certainly seems to be - the error is quite clear.

You might want to check the usual? Hacked script originating or proxying spam 
(sometimes not even through your mta), forwarding users onto yahoo and spam 
that misses your inbound filtering is being forwarded on?

It’d save these periodic emails to the list that are all “is provider x here 
and can they assist with a block”


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From: mailop  on behalf of Scott Mutter via mailop 

Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:08:09 AM
To: mailop@mailop.org 
Subject: [mailop] Yahoo/AOL Blocking

Anybody from Yahoo/AOL able to assist with what's causing the IP address - 
67.222.148.107 - to be blocked?

All messages from 67.222.148.107 will be permanently deferred; Retrying will 
NOT succeed. See https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes

Messages have DKIM and DMARC

IP is not listed in Spamhaus (or any other RBL)

Does not seem to be message specific, seems to be IP related.
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[mailop] Yahoo/AOL Blocking

2024-06-24 Thread Scott Mutter via mailop
Anybody from Yahoo/AOL able to assist with what's causing the IP address -
67.222.148.107 - to be blocked?

All messages from 67.222.148.107 will be permanently deferred; Retrying
will NOT succeed. See https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes

Messages have DKIM and DMARC

IP is not listed in Spamhaus (or any other RBL)

Does not seem to be message specific, seems to be IP related.
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2024-06-24 Thread Jeff Peng via mailop

On 2024-06-24 22:06, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote:

Umut Alemdar via mailop skrev den 2024-06-24 15:40:

Since the beginning of June, we have been experiencing delivery
issues with AT&T. Despite our attempts to resolve this by contacting
support, we have not received any feedback or resolution.
 Could anyone from AT&T contact me off list, please?



please no ads here, turn off html



Some MUAs like roundcube I am using, have the feature to turn off HTML 
view.

That might be helpful. :)
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2024-06-24 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop

Marco Moock via mailop skrev den 2024-06-24 16:46:

Am 24.06.2024 um 16:06:32 Uhr schrieb Benny Pedersen via mailop:


that sayed We can’t connect to the server at list.mailop.org.


Works for me. Please use traceroute to find out if that is a problem at
your side.


it was my slow unifi router dns issue :)

all ok now

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2024-06-24 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 24.06.2024 um 16:06:32 Uhr schrieb Benny Pedersen via mailop:

> that sayed We can’t connect to the server at list.mailop.org.

Works for me. Please use traceroute to find out if that is a problem at
your side.

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2024-06-24 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop

Umut Alemdar via mailop skrev den 2024-06-24 15:40:

Since the beginning of June, we have been experiencing delivery
issues with AT&T. Despite our attempts to resolve this by contacting
support, we have not received any feedback or resolution.
 Could anyone from AT&T contact me off list, please?



please no ads here, turn off html

that sayed We can’t connect to the server at list.mailop.org.

mailarchive is not working ?

try read maillist archive if you have it somewhere, had seen multi mails 
about AT&T






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2024-06-24 Thread Umut Alemdar via mailop
Since the beginning of June, we have been experiencing delivery issues with 
AT&T. Despite our attempts to resolve this by contacting support, we have not 
received any feedback or resolution.
Could anyone from AT&T contact me off list, please?

Thank you.




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Re: [mailop] reverse proxy for smtp client

2024-06-24 Thread Stuart Henderson via mailop
On 2024/06/24 12:16, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
> Am 24.06.2024 um 12:03:49 Uhr schrieb Alessandro Vesely via mailop:
> 
> > IME, large sending times are often caused by IMAP.  Most clients
> > operate by first sending the message and then saving it in the Sent
> > IMAP folder.  Just changing that method to Bcc: halves the time
> > required.
> 
> Why should using Bcc: change that the client saves the message in
> Draft/Sent via IMAP?

You only need to send the message to save once not twice (though that
can also be avoided by RFC 4468 "BURL" if supported), and SMTP sending
is often queued and done in the background in mail clients, whereas IMAP
operations are often done immediately.

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Re: [mailop] reverse proxy for smtp client

2024-06-24 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop

On Mon 24/Jun/2024 12:16:32 +0200 Marco Moock via mailop wrote:

Am 24.06.2024 um 12:03:49 Uhr schrieb Alessandro Vesely via mailop:


IME, large sending times are often caused by IMAP.  Most clients
operate by first sending the message and then saving it in the Sent
IMAP folder.  Just changing that method to Bcc: halves the time
required.


Why should using Bcc: change that the client saves the message in
Draft/Sent via IMAP?



I meant if the client is able to send to Bcc: /instead/ of saving the message 
via IMAP.  Otherwise it can be done on the server, but you need to synchronize 
start adding Bcc: with the user telling the client not to save any more (and 
vice versa).


I automatically prepare a -sent (or +sent) alias to the 
Sent folder of every new user.  Some can setup their clients to use it.


Draft saving usually is not a worry, as the client does it while-U-type, and 
thus you don't have to wait for it.



HTH
Ale
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Re: [mailop] reverse proxy for smtp client

2024-06-24 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 24.06.2024 um 12:03:49 Uhr schrieb Alessandro Vesely via mailop:

> IME, large sending times are often caused by IMAP.  Most clients
> operate by first sending the message and then saving it in the Sent
> IMAP folder.  Just changing that method to Bcc: halves the time
> required.

Why should using Bcc: change that the client saves the message in
Draft/Sent via IMAP?

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Re: [mailop] reverse proxy for smtp client

2024-06-24 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
IME, large sending times are often caused by IMAP.  Most clients operate by 
first sending the message and then saving it in the Sent IMAP folder.  Just 
changing that method to Bcc: halves the time required.



Best
Ale

On Sat 22/Jun/2024 09:45:36 +0200 Jeff Pang wrote:


Hello

that's b/c the attachment can be sent as 100MB between users.
some users said they are hard sending large mail, so I am asking the question.

Thanks.


Although, I am interested in how much the latency affects the
submission and how much that impacts your users.



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