Re: [mailop] New Validity policy for paid FBL (ARF)

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

Hi Steve,

That is awesome news!
Tracey Crawford

Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:05:23 +0100
> From: Steve Freegard 
> To: Support 3Hound 
> Cc: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] New Validity policy for paid FBL (ARF)
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>
> Just saw this thread; I published this earlier today and we're likely going
> to discuss it at M3AAWG:  https://abusix.com/feedback-loops/
>
> TLDR; Abusix is willing to take this on and provide it as a free service
> from any mailbox provider that wishes to participate, but we'll do it based
> on the Independent RFC Draft using CFBL-Address, so we don't just end up
> swapping out Validity for us, we help adopt a standard that any mailbox
> provider can use going forward if they wish.
> Putting us in the middle just means that we take on the burden of
> processing, wrapping and delivering the reports and approving the
> CFBL-Addresses that can receive them and producing some high-level
> statistics that might be interesting at the same time.
>
> Kind regards,
> Steve.
>
>
>
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[mailop] Subject: Phishing hosted by Cloudflare-ipfs.com / Abuse Handled by Sparkpostmail.com?

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

Hello Benoit,

Please submit a ticket to complia...@messagebird.com and I will look into
it.

Thank you,
Tracey


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>   Sparkpostmail.com? (Faisal Misle)
>3. Re: Phishing hosted by Cloudflare-ipfs.com / Abuse Handled by
>   Sparkpostmail.com? (Michael Irvine)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 17:04:44 +0200
> From: Benoit Panizzon 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: [mailop] Phishing hosted by Cloudflare-ipfs.com / Abuse
> Handled by Sparkpostmail.com?
> Message-ID: <20240513170444.511b4...@go.imp.ch>
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> Hi all
>
> Our customers increasingly get phishing emails targeting our email
> platform accessible under the domain: Cloudflare-ipfs.com
> (interplanetary file system, I guess that is their name for CNS).
>
> I reported some of those to the cloudflare abuse desk.
>
> To my surprise, after usually 1 or two days I get a replies From:
> "Cloudflare"  about them blocking some of the
> single URL we report.
>
> So is sparkpostmail.com linked to cloudflare?
>
> Unfortunately the basic issue is not being addressed. The phishers
> seem to be able to generate new URI under cloudflare-ipfs.com much
> faster than ab...@spakpostmail.com is able to block them.
>
> Even SpamAssassin now has a rule matching those:
>
> URI_CLOUDFLAREIPFS References Interplanetary File System PtP
> content via CloudFlare, likely phishing
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>
> -Benoît Panizzon-
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 17:33:28 +0200
> From: Faisal Misle 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Phishing hosted by Cloudflare-ipfs.com / Abuse
> Handled by Sparkpostmail.com?
> Message-ID: <75d038da-8911-46ed-a84f-01a6d8560...@emailgeek.eu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> I know Cloudflare uses Sparkpost's infra to send replies from their
> abuse desk system, which is likely what you're seeing.
>
> Received: from mta-87-157.sparkpostmail.com ([192.174.87.157])
> by safari.mxrouting.net with esmtps  (TLS1.2) tls
> TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
> (Exim 4.96-58-g4e9ed49f8)
> (envelope-from bounces-265...@notify.cloudflare.com>)
> id 1roj7P-0002sE-3D
> Subject: [a765c4b07061f747] Cloudflare: Abuse report confirmation
>
> On 5/13/24 5:04 PM, Benoit Panizzon via mailop wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Our customers increasingly get phishing emails targeting our email
> > platform accessible under the domain: Cloudflare-ipfs.com
> > (interplanetary file system, I guess that is their name for CNS).
> >
> > I reported some of those to the cloudflare abuse desk.
> >
> > To my surprise, after usually 1 or two days I get a replies From:
> > "Cloudflare"  about them blocking some of the
> > single URL we report.
> >
> > So is sparkpostmail.com linked to cloudflare?
> >
> > Unfortunately the basic issue is not being addressed. The phishers
> > seem to be able to generate new URI under cloudflare-ipfs.com much
> > faster thanab...@spakpostmail.com  is able to block them.
> >
> > Even SpamAssassin now has a rule matching those:
> >
> > URI_CLOUDFLAREIPFS References Interplanetary File System PtP
> >  content via CloudFlare, likely phishing
> >
> > Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> >
> > -Benoît Panizzon-
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 17:05:42 +
> From: Michael Irvine 
> To: Benoit Panizzon , "mailop@mailop.org"
> 
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Phishing hosted by Cloudflare-ipfs.com / Abuse
>

[mailop] Gmail Postmaster IP reputation shift on July 2nd

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

I am also seeing a drop from green to red for some of my customers on July
2nd.

Tracey Crawford
Lead Deliverability Analyst, SparkPost


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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 14:25:03 +0200
> From: Hetzner Blacklist 
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> Subject: Re: [mailop] Can't sign up for MSFT SNDS?
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> Hi Al,
>
> I just tried adding a /16 that we bought a while ago but aren't using
> yet. There were no issues adding it to the SNDS.
>
> Having said that, I've often had issues in the past adding ranges. Most
> of the time simply waiting and trying again a few hours or days later
> worked.
>
> Make sure the WHOIS data is correct, since Microsoft relies heavily on
> that.
>
> Also, if you're able to, maybe you can signup using the AS number, I've
> never had issues with that.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bastiaan van den Berg
>
>
> Am 04.07.2019 um 13:00 schrieb Al Iverson :
> > Anybody else having trouble signing new ranges up for Microsoft SNDS?
> > When submitting the access request, I get a generic "We're sorry! An
> > error has occurred.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 08:12:17 +
> From: Mathieu Bourdin 
> To: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> Subject: [mailop] Gmail Postmaster IP reputation shift on July 2nd
> Message-ID:
> <
> am0pr09mb371519dd559a8edf3bcb3ec996...@am0pr09mb3715.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com
> >
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello,
>
> We just saw that Gmail Postmaster's Tools shows a very unusual amount of
> our IP's as < bad > in the graphs.
> Domain reputation seems unaffected, but basically we see around 50% of our
> IPs for July 2nd and 75% for July 3 going from green to red.
> I saw no changes in sending habits from the various customers I checked
> (as they all have dedicated IPs it's fairly straightforward).
>
> Some other French ESP representatives I chatted with see similar cases, I
> wanted to check with others if they saw the same things and, if luck will
> have it a Gmail Postmaster team member happens to be online and they have
> some time to look it up, that would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu Bourdin
> Dolist Deliverability team.
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> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 01:53:25 -0700
> From: Richelo Killian 
> To: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail Postmaster IP reputation shift on July 2nd
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> I actually had several go from medium to high. No down movement at all for
> the IP’s I monitor.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Richelo Killian
>
> From: Mathieu Bourdin via mailop  
> Reply: Mathieu Bourdin  
> Date: July 5, 2019 at 10:15:42
> To: mailop@mailop.org  
> Subject:  [mailop] Gmail Postmaster IP reputation shift on July 2nd
>
> Hello,
>
> We just saw that Gmail Postmaster’s Tools shows a very unusual amount of
> our IP’s as « bad » in the graphs.
> Domain reputation seems unaffected, but basically we see around 50% of our
> IPs for July 2nd and 75% for July 3 going from green to red.
> I saw no changes in sending habits from the various customers I checked (as
> they all have dedicated IPs it’s fairly straightforward).
>
> Some other French ESP representatives I chatted with see similar cases, I
> wanted to check with others if they saw the same things and, if luck will
> have it a Gmail Postmaster team member happens to be online and they have
> some time to look it up, that would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu Bourdin
> Dolist Deliverability team.
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Re: [mailop] Libero postmaster

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

I would be interested in a Postmaster contact as well.


Tracey Crawford
Lead Deliverability Analyst, SparkPost


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>1. Libero postmaster (Udeme Ukutt)
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> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:05:59 -0400
> From: Udeme Ukutt 
> To: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> Subject: [mailop] Libero postmaster
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> Please if there a Postmaster folk at Libero, kindly contact me offlist as I
> have a question.
>
> TIA,
> Udeme - Postmaster at Wish
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[mailop] Lost GPT Ownership

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

One of our clients lost owner privileges to one of their domains in Google
Postmaster Tools.  Does anyone know how we can recover ownership to the
domain?  They have read access, but that does not allow them to manage the
domain.  We've tried deleting the domain and re-adding, but that does not
give us a new verification record and therefore, We still only have read
access.

Thank you,
Tracey Crawford
Lead Deliverability Analyst, SparkPost


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> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:25:51 -0400
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> I would be interested in a Postmaster contact as well.
>
>
> Tracey Crawford
> Lead Deliverability Analyst, SparkPost
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 7:02 AM  wrote:
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:05:59 -0400
> > From: Udeme Ukutt 
> > To: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> > Subject: [mailop] Libero postmaster
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Please if there a Postmaster folk at Libero, kindly contact me offlist
> as I
> > have a question.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Udeme - Postmaster at Wish
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Re: [mailop] Lost GPT Ownership

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

t; I would be interested in a Postmaster contact as well.
> >
> >
> > Tracey Crawford
> > Lead Deliverability Analyst, SparkPost
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 7:02 AM  wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:05:59 -0400
> > > From: Udeme Ukutt 
> > > To: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> > > Subject: [mailop] Libero postmaster
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <
> > > cahoqypc4mfcfbf0tsw98aunqfwcrqc5+bwtv-kh_jpeocuz...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Please if there a Postmaster folk at Libero, kindly contact me offlist
> > as I
> > > have a question.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Udeme - Postmaster at Wish
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 19:55:55 +0100
> From: Ken O'Driscoll 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Lost GPT Ownership
> Message-ID:
> <97d5b9546e73f2912891603bb07bbc1d96732a9a.ca...@wemonitoremail.com
> >
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>
> On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 09:02 -0400, Tracey Crawford via mailop wrote:
> > One of our clients lost owner privileges to one of their domains in
> > Google Postmaster Tools.  Does anyone know how we can recover ownership
> > to the domain?  They have read access, but that does not allow them to
> > manage the domain.  We've tried deleting the domain and re-adding, but
> > that does not give us a new verification record and therefore, We still
> > only have read access.
> >
>
> Hi Tracey,
>
> they should be able to reset ownership via the Search Console (previously
> Webmaster Tools). GPT domain ownership is subservient to that as far as I
> understand.
>
> Ken.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:08:54 +0200
> From: Benoit Panizzon 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: [mailop] How to identify source of email sent via Google?

Re: [mailop] Lost GPT Ownership

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

ain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I would be interested in a Postmaster contact as well.
> >
> >
> > Tracey Crawford
> > Lead Deliverability Analyst, SparkPost
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 7:02 AM  wrote:
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> > >
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:05:59 -0400
> > > From: Udeme Ukutt 
> > > To: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> > > Subject: [mailop] Libero postmaster
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <
> > > cahoqypc4mfcfbf0tsw98aunqfwcrqc5+bwtv-kh_jpeocuz...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Please if there a Postmaster folk at Libero, kindly contact me offlist
> > as I
> > > have a question.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Udeme - Postmaster at Wish
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>
> On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 09:02 -0400, Tracey Crawford via mailop wrote:
> > One of our clients lost owner privileges to one of their domains in
> > Google Postmaster Tools.  Does anyone know how we can recover ownership
> > to the domain?  They have read access, but that does not allow them to
> > manage the domain.  We've tried deleting the domain and re-adding, but
> > that does not give us a new verification record and therefore, We still
> > only have read access.
> >
>
> Hi Tracey,
>
> they should be able to reset ownership via the Search Console (previously
> Webmaster Tools). GPT domain ownership is subservient to that as far as I
> understand.
>
> Ken.
>
>
>
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> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: [mailop] How to i

Re: [mailop] Change at Microsoft on September 4th (John Stephenson)

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

I am seeing this as well with several of our clients.  I saw the change
from green to red around Aug 26 and around Sep 4.  I have been submitting
tickets requesting mitigation and have been denied on all.  I am still
trying to mitigate.

Tracey Crawford


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>1. Re: Change at Microsoft on September 4th (John Stephenson)
>2. Re: [ext]  Change at Microsoft on September 4th (Ralf Hildebrandt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:15:17 -0700
> From: John Stephenson 
> To: Michael Wise 
> Cc: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Change at Microsoft on September 4th
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>
> I'm seeing it as well.  I'm seeing it manifest in a significant rise in
> temp fails for some clients who haven't had any significant volume or
> reputation changes and I'm seeing the Green/Yellow/Red status in SNDS
> fluctuate significantly as well, along with inbox placement.
>
> Good luck out there!
>
> J
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:23 PM Michael Wise via mailop  >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I’m not in a position to comment …
> >
> >
> >
> > If anyone is still seeing issues, I’d strongly suggest opening a ticket:
> >
> >
> >
> >   http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866
> >
> >   (Max CIDR range is a /24; if you have more, break them up.
> > Sorry, it’s a requirement currently)
> >
> >
> >
> > More general information can be found here:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/pm/
> >
> >
> >
> > You should get a response from the Robot more or less immediately.
> > If you don’t get either the first response, or a Mitigation decision,
> > within 24 hours, I’d suggest opening another ticket just in case.
> >
> > After that robot Mitigation decision, if there are still issues, please
> > reply to the decision email, and state your case.
> > You will then be talking to a real human (won’t be me, sorry).
> >
> > I am not in a position to bypass the Suppport Funnel process described
> > above; I don’t scale.
> >
> > If for some reason the process is not working currently, I may be able to
> > bring issues to the attention of others, but cannot make promises on
> their
> > behalf.
> >
> > As for the Abuse@ issues John is seeing, I’m poking around finding who
> > best to address that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Michael.
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Michael J Wise*
> > Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
> >
> > "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
> >
> > Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool
> >  ?
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* mailop  *On Behalf Of *Caitlin Brodie
> > via mailop
> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:05 PM
> > *To:* mailop@mailop.org
> > *Subject:* [mailop] Change at Microsoft on September 4th
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Mailop,
> >
> >
> >
> > It sounds like a lot of senders saw issues with Microsoft on September
> > 4th, and open rates dropped but then recovered the next day.
> >
> >
> >
> > We also saw issues starting on September 4th, but our IPs' reputation in
> > SNDS hasn't recovered yet, and neither has our open rate to Microsoft
> > domains.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else continued to see deliverability issues to Microsoft
> > domains after September 4th? We're trying to gauge whether this is
> related
> > to those more widespread problems or not.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:33:13 +0200
> From: Ralf Hildebrandt 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] [ext]  Change at Microsoft on September 4th
> Message-ID: <20190913073310.2sckdtfyfh4zn...@charite.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> * Caitlin Brodie via mailop :
>
> > We also saw issues starting on September 4th, but our IPs' reputation in
> > SNDS hasn't recovered yet, and neither has our open rate to Microsoft
> > domains.
> >

Re: [mailop] Change at Microsoft on September 4th

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

We are seeing this issue here as well for many clients.  Submitting a
ticket and replying back and forth has not really helped.  I have explained
that there was no visible change in the senders' practices and that
literally the SNDS went from green to red in one day.  The response I have
received is "As previously stated, your IP(s) do not qualify for mitigation
at this time ... At this point, I would suggest that you review and comply
with Outlook.com's technical standards. This information can be found at
https://postmaster.live.com/pm/postmaster.aspx.  We regret that we are
unable to provide any additional information or assistance at this time."
It is quite difficult to identify the issue when there has been no change
in their sending practices and I am getting the same response for all of
the clients.

Tracey Crawford




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>1. Re: Change at Microsoft on September 4th (Kevin A. McGrail)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:59:50 -0400
> From: "Kevin A. McGrail" 
> To: John Stephenson , Michael Wise
> 
> Cc: "mailop@mailop.org" 
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Change at Microsoft on September 4th
> Message-ID: <6658531f-8645-d366-ba7e-90c741e6e...@pccc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Michael,
>
> [thanks for your helpful post!]
>
> Anytime I try and open a ticket, I just get "We're sorry, but something
> went wrong on our end. Please try again later"
>
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/supportrequestform/ doesn't work any
> more.
>
> I was also given
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/getsupport?oaspworkflow=start_1.0.0.0&wfname=capsub&productkey=edfsmsbl3
> and that seems to link to the same form with the same error.
>
> This change in September really is quite bad.  Luckily it is only
> hitting the freemail (msn/live/hotmail/outlook) but I have to imagine if
> it is hitting my firm, the false positive rate must be astronomical but
> impossible to measure because they are just blocking IPs.
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> On 9/12/2019 7:15 PM, John Stephenson via mailop wrote:
> > I'm seeing it as well.  I'm seeing it manifest in a significant rise
> > in temp fails for some clients who haven't had any significant volume
> > or reputation changes and I'm seeing the Green/Yellow/Red status in
> > SNDS fluctuate significantly as well, along with inbox placement.
> >
> > Good luck out there!
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:23 PM Michael Wise via mailop
> > mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m not in a position to comment …
> >
> >
> >
> > If anyone is still seeing issues, I’d strongly suggest opening a
> > ticket:
> >
> >
> >
> >   http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866
> >
> >   (Max CIDR range is a /24; if you have more, break
> > them up. Sorry, it’s a requirement currently)
> >
> >
> >
> > More general information can be found here:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/pm/
> >
> >
> >
> > You should get a response from the Robot more or less immediately.
> > If you don’t get either the first response, or a Mitigation
> > decision, within 24 hours, I’d suggest opening another ticket just
> > in case.
> >
> > After that robot Mitigation decision, if there are still issues,
> > please reply to the decision email, and state your case.
> > You will then be talking to a real human (won’t be me, sorry).
> >
> > I am not in a position to bypass the Suppport Funnel process
> > described above; I don’t scale.
> >
> > If for some reason the process is not working currently, I may be
> > able to bring issues to the attention of others, but cannot make
> > promises on their behalf.
> >
> > As for the Abuse@ issues John is seeing, I’m poking around finding
> > who best to address that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Michael.
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Michael J Wise*
> > MicrosoftCorporation| Spam Analysis
> >
> > "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
> >
> > Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* mailop  > > *On Behalf Of *Caitlin Brodie
> > via mailop
> > *Sent:* Thursda

[mailop] Contact at Interia.pl?

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

Does anyone have a contact at Interia.pl?  If so, please email me directly.

Thank you,
Tracey Crawford
Manager Deliverability Ops, SparkPost


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>1. Re: Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com emails?
>   (Russell Clemings)
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>   (John Levine)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 18:02:13 -0800
> From: Russell Clemings 
> To: mailop 
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com
> emails?
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> mailop@mailop.org>
> wrote (in part):
>
> >
> > but my experience of email carrier buyouts is that no-one *ever* sunsets
> > the
> > domain names, cause there's no real reason to do so, and it pisses off
> > end-users.
> >
> >
> Tell that to Comcast, which bought attbi.com and made all of their users
> change their email addresses to comcast.net, just as attbi.com had done a
> few years earlier when it bought mediaone.net. Quite a few years ago, but
> it was a colossal pain.
>
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> From: "John Levine" 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Is Spectrum trying to sunset rr.com and twc.com
> emails?
> Message-ID: 
>
> In article <
> can7rx0yytcaaygl5s76qn9sryg45voff6cqf92lt0ssoy1q...@mail.gmail.com>,
> Russell Clemings via mailop  wrote:
> >Tell that to Comcast, which bought attbi.com and made all of their users
> >change their email addresses to comcast.net, just as attbi.com had done a
> >few years earlier when it bought mediaone.net. Quite a few years ago, but
> >it was a colossal pain.
>
> They learned their lesson.  Now even if you cancel your Comcast service you
> can keep your comcast.net address.
>
> --
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> John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
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[mailop] Yahoo Relaying denied errors

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

Hello All,

Is anyone else seeing a large number of '550 relaying denied for  tnmpmscs' this morning?

Tracey Crawford
Manager Deliverability Ops, SparkPost




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>1. Re: Netflix no incoming for one user (Anna Ward)
>2. Microsoft reporting insufficent resources errors. (David Malagon)
>3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Microsoft reporting insufficent resources
>   errors. (Michael Wise)
>4. Re: [EXTERNAL] Microsoft reporting insufficent resources
>   errors. (Al Iverson)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 09:31:14 -0400
> From: Anna Ward 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Netflix no incoming for one user
> Message-ID:
>  9c58qh1grqm...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Netflix uses Amazon SES, at least for transactional mail. It's possible
> their email address is on a suppression list, local to Netflix
> <
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/sending-email-suppression-list.html
> >
> or something global for Amazon
> <
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/sending-email-global-suppression-list.html
> >
> -- especially if at some point a complaint was registered for that
> recipient. You and the recipient likely won't know the address is being
> suppressed because it's done on the sender's side.
>
> --
> Anna Ward
> Postmarkapp.com
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:00 AM Christian Mack via mailop <
> mailop@mailop.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Screenshots of email addresses are error prone.
> > For example you can not distinguish ndash and minus characters.
> > Double check his address by requesting a copy'n'paste for it.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Christian Mack
> >
> > Am 03.04.20 um 23:47 schrieb Adam Moffett via mailop:
> > > I have a customer who isn't receiving email notifications from Netflix.
> > > We aren't rejecting them, and we're getting netflix emails for hundreds
> > > of other people every day.  As far as I can tell no email for this
> > > person ever gets here from netflix.com.
> > >
> > > The customer sent me screenshots from his netflix account showing the
> > > correct email address.  He's tried the netflix support chat, but they
> > > referred him back to me.
> > >
> > > Does anyone here have inroads to an email admin at Netflix?
> > >
> > > -- Adam Moffett, Network Engineer
> > > Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net
> > > Office: 1.866.759.4678 x104
> > >
> > >
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> > Universität Konstanz
> > Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM)
> > Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung und Lehre
> > 78457 Konstanz
> > +49 7531 88-4416
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 22:25:31 +0200
> From: David Malagon 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: [mailop] Microsoft reporting insufficent resources errors.
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>
> Hello everybody.
>
> In the last hour we have being receiving lots of different error messages
> from Microsoft servers:
>
> 452 4.3.1 Insufficient system resources (TSTE)
> 452 4.3.1 Insufficient system resources (PendingCommits[Large])
>
> Is there any known issue? Should stop trying messages in this scenario?
>
> Regards
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[mailop] Contact for Juno.com?

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

Hello,

Does anyone have a contact for Juno.com?  We are getting abuse reports for
mail that is not coming from our servers.

Thanks,
Tracey Crawford
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Re: [mailop] DKIM+DMARC at t-online.de (Deutsche Telekom's ISP branche)

[Tracey Crawford via mailop]

Regarding the statement

Florian.Kunkel--- via mailop wrote:
> unsigned messages, unaligned or messages failing validation otherwise,
will be rejected while in SMTP session.

Can you tell us what the error message will be or will it be the standard,
'A problem occurred. (Ask your postmaster for help or to contact
t...@rx.t-online.de to clarify.'?

Tracey





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>1. Re: DKIM+DMARC at t-online.de (Deutsche Telekom's ISP
>   branche) (Luke)
>2. Re: DKIM+DMARC at t-online.de (Deutsche Telekom's ISP
>   branche) (florian.kun...@telekom.de)
>3. Re: DKIM+DMARC at t-online.de (Deutsche Telekom's ISP
>   branche) (Bob Proulx)
>4. Re: [EXTERNAL]  Comcast contact (Mike Reed)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:12:16 -0700
> From: Luke 
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] DKIM+DMARC at t-online.de (Deutsche Telekom's
> ISP branche)
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Has anyone gotten a firm answer on these scenarios yet?
>
> 5321.from: boun...@srv12.example.com
> 5322.from: cont...@example.com
>
> The vast majority of our customers will have a subdomain on the 5321 from
> that isn't present on the 5322 from. I'd like to know if this is a problem.
>
> I'd also like to hear confirmation that messages with 2 DKIM signatures
> will still "pass" if one matches the 5322 and one doesn't.
>
> @Florian: How will T-Online handle these two scenarios?
>
> Cheers,
> Luke
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 6:22 AM Matt Gilbert via mailop 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Florian,
> >
> > Do you have this information posted anywhere online such as in a blog
> post
> > or support article?
> >
> > The information shared in this mailing list is a little disjointed and
> > difficult to follow, so having an article that we can reference that
> > includes the precise requirements you're establishing, and examples would
> > be very helpful. Also, do you have a date for when you are going to begin
> > enforcing this new policy?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matt Gilbert
> > - Deliverability Engineer
> > - Mailchimp
> >
> > On Apr 6, 2021, at 5:36 AM, Florian.Kunkel--- via mailop <
> > mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> >
> > !
> > * to all those sending email without their very own static IP-Address,
> > * and all newly set up MTA infrastructure
> > ... especially ESPs using IP pools professionally for their numerous
> > customers' mail.
> > !
> >
> > As you might already have observed we are evaluating DKIM signatures @
> > t-online.de for a while now.
> > We are starting to expect aforementioned IP infrastructure to have all
> > messages DKIM signed conforming DMARC, so header from and mail from must
> be
> > aligned.
> > unsigned messages, unaligned or messages failing validation otherwise,
> > will be rejected while in SMTP session.
> >
> > worst come first
> > Expect this procedure to hit you the earlier, the more traffic we are
> > already used to reject from your infrastructure.
> >
> > Do not expect DMARC reports anytime soon.
> > Equally we won't check for DMARC policies at the moment; ... but p=reject
> > could become an option.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Florian
> > E-Mail Engineering
> >
> > Deutsche Telekom AG
> > Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 9, 64295 Darmstadt, Germany
> >
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> Hi Luke, *!
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> Has anyone gotten a firm answer on these scenarios yet?
> 5321.from: mailto:boun...@srv12.example.com
> 5322.from: mailto:cont...@example.com
> The vast majority of our customers wil