Re: [mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-11 Thread Philip Paeps

On 2018-01-08 17:54:13 (+), Philip Paeps wrote:

On 2018-01-08 14:36:07 (+), Charles McKean wrote:
I was able to contact them just now and open a ticket with them using 
the abuse address.


I've managed to send a message through the web link Ken posted here 
(thank you!).


[...]

I hope they make good on their promise on their webpage to get in 
touch with me within 24 hours after filling in their support form on 
their webpage.  I will let the list know!


I did not hear back from them within the stated 24 hours.  I submitted 
their form a second time more than 24 hours ago and still have not heard 
back from them.


I can only conclude they don't care about their spamming customers.

If anyone has a direct contact, I'd appreciate it.  Meanwhile, I'll have 
to see about blocking them without making my users too cranky.


Philip

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Re: [mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-08 Thread Philip Paeps

On 2018-01-08 14:36:07 (+), Charles McKean wrote:
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Philip Paeps  
wrote:

Did you try it with a non-"trouble.is" domain?


Yes.  I sent these from postmaster@ the several domains where the 
spamtraps are hosted and from philip@ in the domains I've got 
mailboxes in.  Always the same error: "Message rejected as spam by 
Content Filtering".



E.g. an @gmail.com account?



I don't have one of those.


Why not? Cost too high?


Yes[*].

One should not have to sign up for a freemail address (from any 
provider) to report network abuse.


I was able to contact them just now and open a ticket with them using 
the abuse address.


I've managed to send a message through the web link Ken posted here 
(thank you!).


Do not include the spam report and instead explain that your reports 
are getting rejected and ask them what they expect you to do to get 
this through to them.


As I pointed out in my original post: I did that and got the same 
Content Filter bounce I got when I forwarded spam.  Again to several 
addresses in several domains.


I hope they make good on their promise on their webpage to get in touch 
with me within 24 hours after filling in their support form on their 
webpage.  I will let the list know!


Philip


[*] I value my privacy more than my money (it's a lot easier to make 
more money than it is to make more privacy, for one thing) and find 
Google's privacy policy unpalatable.  But this list is not a suitable 
forum to discuss that.



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Re: [mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-08 Thread Charles McKean
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Philip Paeps  wrote:

>> Did you try it with a non-"trouble.is" domain?
>
> Yes.  I sent these from postmaster@ the several domains where the spamtraps
> are hosted and from philip@ in the domains I've got mailboxes in.  Always
> the same error: "Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering".
>
>> E.g. an @gmail.com account?
>
>
> I don't have one of those.

Why not? Cost too high?

I was able to contact them just now and open a ticket with them using
the abuse address. Do not include the spam report and instead explain
that your reports are getting rejected and ask them what they expect
you to do to get this through to them.

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Re: [mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-08 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 13:15 +0100, Philip Paeps wrote:
> Aside: it seems more than a bit silly to run a content filter on
> abuse@.  
> If their filter feeds into reputation monitoring systems, I've probably 
> damaged my networks' reputations by being a good internet citizen and 
> reporting abuse of their network!

The RFC explicitly advises against that but people still do it.

Their "email support" option appears to be a pop-up form which may allow
you to circumvent any pre-acceptance testing:

https://www.combell.com/en/support

Ken.

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Re: [mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-08 Thread Philip Paeps

On 2018-01-08 09:44:10 (+0100), David Hofstee wrote:

On 6 January 2018 at 15:32, Philip Paeps  wrote:
I'm getting repeated spamtrap hits from customers of combell.com.  
Forwarding messages (even just headers) to abuse@ gets bounces:


 ab...@combell.com
   host 217.21.178.56 [217.21.178.56]
   SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
   550 5.7.1 Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering.

Asking abuse@ how they'd like to be told about their customers' 
network abuse gets bounced with the same error.  Great!


Does anyone know any humans there?

They're unfortunately too large to block outright.


Did you try it with a non-"trouble.is" domain?


Yes.  I sent these from postmaster@ the several domains where the 
spamtraps are hosted and from philip@ in the domains I've got mailboxes 
in.  Always the same error: "Message rejected as spam by Content 
Filtering".



E.g. an @gmail.com account?


I don't have one of those.

It doesn't look like the return address matters though.

Aside: it seems more than a bit silly to run a content filter on abuse@.  
If their filter feeds into reputation monitoring systems, I've probably 
damaged my networks' reputations by being a good internet citizen and 
reporting abuse of their network!


Philip

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Re: [mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-08 Thread David Hofstee
Hi Philip,

Did you try it with a non-"trouble.is" domain? E.g. an @gmail.com account?

Yours,


David

On 6 January 2018 at 15:32, Philip Paeps  wrote:

> I'm getting repeated spamtrap hits from customers of combell.com.
> Forwarding messages (even just headers) to abuse@ gets bounces:
>
>  ab...@combell.com
>host 217.21.178.56 [217.21.178.56]
>SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
>550 5.7.1 Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering.
>
> Asking abuse@ how they'd like to be told about their customers' network
> abuse gets bounced with the same error.  Great!
>
> Does anyone know any humans there?
>
> They're unfortunately too large to block outright.
>
> Thanks.
> Philip
>
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[mailop] Anyone with a pulse at combell.com?

2018-01-06 Thread Philip Paeps
I'm getting repeated spamtrap hits from customers of combell.com.  
Forwarding messages (even just headers) to abuse@ gets bounces:


 ab...@combell.com
   host 217.21.178.56 [217.21.178.56]
   SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
   550 5.7.1 Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering.

Asking abuse@ how they'd like to be told about their customers' network 
abuse gets bounced with the same error.  Great!


Does anyone know any humans there?

They're unfortunately too large to block outright.

Thanks.
Philip

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