Re: [mailop] Liking our research guys tools.. just sharing an interesting spammer method.. (att. MailChimp as well)

2022-07-29 Thread Matt Gilbert via mailop
Hi Michael,

We're taking a look at this regarding the signup form. I've found a couple 
accounts related to that "blankventures" subdomain which we'll investigate, but 
if you could share the full form URL with me off-list that would help our 
investigation efforts.

Thanks,
Matt Gilbert
Deliverability Engineer
matthew.gilb...@mailchimp.com

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Michael Peddemors via mailop  
> wrote:
> 
> Interesting spammer technique.. One of our researcher's tools tends to find 
> this guy every time he fires up.. In general, this guy comes and goes in 
> spurts..
> 
> (ask off list for sample domains, or more details than provided)
> 
> Generally, all his domains are registered about 15-20 days before his spam 
> run using NAMECHEAP, and he likes using various hosting companies, known for 
> more liberal policies.
> 
> He/They start off with a simple spam run, that looks like an affiliate 
> spammer, eg.. (paraphrase) you win something from a big brand retailer, which 
> sends the lure link.. That lure link uses a 'dynserv.org' URL, which 
> translates to a GoDaddy registered domain..
> 
> That gets translated to a domain that points to a OVH customer (one which has 
> a known history of spamming, share offlist), and the file that is retrieved 
> is a simple JS file link..
> 
> That link is hosted on a GoDaddy server..
> 
> host 68.178.244.182
> 182.244.178.68.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
> ip-68-178-244-182.ip.secureserver.net
> 
> Interesting, they use blank.com for this.. hits a 301, assume it redirects 
> based on the GEO of the victim, or other metric, to finally load a page, 
> which is simply a MAILCHIMP sign-up form..
> 
> Interesting way to gather 'opt-in' email addresses ;)
> 
> \
>\ action="https://blankventures.us14.list-manage.com/subscribe/... .
> 
> 
> I leave it to the reader to judge what is going on here..
> 
> Of course, without access to the actual servers involved, a little hard to 
> DOX the operator of this, or whether the 'blankventures' is really involved, 
> or simply a victim of a 'we get you subscribers' service, or whether the 
> redirect sends them over here just to hide their real intentions if you were 
> their target..
> 
> But of course, he burns IP space reputation really quickly.. note, the 
> hosting companies SHOULD be able to see this type of customer for what they 
> are, if they cared.. but giving them /29's all the time, doesn't take long 
> before all your IPs are dirty..
> 
> Hope you enjoyed the read..
> 
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[mailop] Liking our research guys tools.. just sharing an interesting spammer method.. (att. MailChimp as well)

2022-07-26 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Interesting spammer technique.. One of our researcher's tools tends to 
find this guy every time he fires up.. In general, this guy comes and 
goes in spurts..


(ask off list for sample domains, or more details than provided)

Generally, all his domains are registered about 15-20 days before his 
spam run using NAMECHEAP, and he likes using various hosting companies, 
known for more liberal policies.


He/They start off with a simple spam run, that looks like an affiliate 
spammer, eg.. (paraphrase) you win something from a big brand retailer, 
which sends the lure link.. That lure link uses a 'dynserv.org' URL, 
which translates to a GoDaddy registered domain..


That gets translated to a domain that points to a OVH customer (one 
which has a known history of spamming, share offlist), and the file that 
is retrieved is a simple JS file link..


That link is hosted on a GoDaddy server..

host 68.178.244.182
182.244.178.68.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
ip-68-178-244-182.ip.secureserver.net


Interesting, they use blank.com for this.. hits a 301, assume it 
redirects based on the GEO of the victim, or other metric, to finally 
load a page, which is simply a MAILCHIMP sign-up form..


Interesting way to gather 'opt-in' email addresses ;)

\
\action="https://blankventures.us14.list-manage.com/subscribe/... .



I leave it to the reader to judge what is going on here..

Of course, without access to the actual servers involved, a little hard 
to DOX the operator of this, or whether the 'blankventures' is really 
involved, or simply a victim of a 'we get you subscribers' service, or 
whether the redirect sends them over here just to hide their real 
intentions if you were their target..


But of course, he burns IP space reputation really quickly.. note, the 
hosting companies SHOULD be able to see this type of customer for what 
they are, if they cared.. but giving them /29's all the time, doesn't 
take long before all your IPs are dirty..


Hope you enjoyed the read..

--
"Catch the Magic of Linux..."

Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc.
Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com @linuxmagic
A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca
"LinuxMagic" a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd.

604-682-0300 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada

This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended
solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed.
Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely
those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company.
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