Re: [mailop] Meta outgoing servers in black list (SORBS, 0SPAM...)
It appears that Renaud Allard via mailop said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >On 2/1/24 10:32, Eduardo Díaz Comellas via mailop wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've got a customer complaining that they don't receive emails from Meta >> for password reset. We have tracked down this to see that a lot of this >> servers are blacklisted in popular blacklists. > >Let's face it, if you are using 0spam, ascams or SORBS to deny mails >based only on these lists, you are losing legitimate mails. Those >blacklists should only be used in a scoring system. What he said. I only see them in SORBS which has a rather wild'n'crazy listing policy. R's, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Meta outgoing servers in black list (SORBS, 0SPAM...)
It would be helpful if Meta used a better PTR naming convention for these servers.. ;) host 66.220.155.136 136.155.220.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 66-220-155-136.mail-mail.facebook.com. Not sure who dreamed up that one.. On 2/1/24 02:18, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: On 2024-02-01 17:32:14 (+0800), Eduardo Díaz Comellas via mailop wrote: I've got a customer complaining that they doan't receive emails from Meta for password reset. We have tracked down this to see that a lot of this servers are blacklisted in popular blacklists. [...] I usually don't care when the sender is blacklisted, as our policy is that the sender has to deal with their own problems, but this particular customer has a point. I think "don't care: it's the sender's problem" is a sound policy. I temper and denylists I use with allowlists. DNSWL is a popular one. Abusix has a good one too. There are others. Check https://multirbl.valli.org Btw, how do you deal with this big players' blacklist problems? The same way I deal with other players. Philip -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com @linuxmagic A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca "LinuxMagic" is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. 604-682-0300 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Meta outgoing servers in black list (SORBS, 0SPAM...)
On 2024-02-01 17:32:14 (+0800), Eduardo Díaz Comellas via mailop wrote: I've got a customer complaining that they don't receive emails from Meta for password reset. We have tracked down this to see that a lot of this servers are blacklisted in popular blacklists. [...] I usually don't care when the sender is blacklisted, as our policy is that the sender has to deal with their own problems, but this particular customer has a point. I think "don't care: it's the sender's problem" is a sound policy. I temper and denylists I use with allowlists. DNSWL is a popular one. Abusix has a good one too. There are others. Check https://multirbl.valli.org Btw, how do you deal with this big players' blacklist problems? The same way I deal with other players. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Meta outgoing servers in black list (SORBS, 0SPAM...)
On 2/1/24 10:32, Eduardo Díaz Comellas via mailop wrote: Hi, I've got a customer complaining that they don't receive emails from Meta for password reset. We have tracked down this to see that a lot of this servers are blacklisted in popular blacklists. Let's face it, if you are using 0spam, ascams or SORBS to deny mails based only on these lists, you are losing legitimate mails. Those blacklists should only be used in a scoring system. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Meta outgoing servers in black list (SORBS, 0SPAM...)
On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 10:32:14AM +0100, Eduardo Díaz Comellas via mailop wrote: > > Btw, how do you deal with this big players' blacklist problems? One (possibly naive) option is to extract from SPF the outbound MXes for domains you want to receive mail from, such as what I describe in https://www.nxdomain.no/~peter/goodness_enumerated_by_robots.html (or if you prefer nicer formatting at the cost of *all* the trackers G has for you https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2018/11/goodness-enumerated-by-robots-or.html) - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
[mailop] Meta outgoing servers in black list (SORBS, 0SPAM...)
Hi, I've got a customer complaining that they don't receive emails from Meta for password reset. We have tracked down this to see that a lot of this servers are blacklisted in popular blacklists. A small subset of blacklisted addresses are: 66.220.155.136 66.220.155.140 66.220.155.142 66.220.155.143 66.220.155.145 66.220.155.147 66.220.155.148 66.220.155.151 66.220.155.152 66.220.155.153 66.220.155.155 66.220.155.156 66.220.155.157 66.220.155.158 69.171.232.129 69.171.232.131 69.171.232.132 69.171.232.134 69.171.232.135 69.171.232.136 69.171.232.137 Is anyone from Meta reading this? I usually don't care when the sender is blacklisted, as our policy is that the sender has to deal with their own problems, but this particular customer has a point. Btw, how do you deal with this big players' blacklist problems? Best regards___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
