Re: [mailop] fate of rr.com addresses

2021-12-06 Thread Bill Cole via mailop

On 2021-12-06 at 05:12:27 UTC-0500 (Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:12:27 +0100)
Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop 
is rumored to have said:


Dnia  5.12.2021 o godz. 18:58:21 Fernando Cassia via mailop pisze:

Emails sent to the phased out domains, Roadrunner.com or
rr.com, are being flagged by email providers as spam or used as spam
traps.


I wonder what this sentence might mean. Emails sent to @rr.com are 
marked as
spam... by whom? The only entity who can mark them as spam is the 
recipient,
ie. current operator of the rr.com domain, isn't it? This should not 
impact
delivery to other domains/mail providers. So I do not understand what 
the

author of this sentence is trying to say...


That appears to be a mailing list operator explaining why they will not 
allow subscriptions from rr.com addresses.


The corporate entities that used the "RoadRunner" brand and gave their 
customers rr.com addresses haven't given out new rr.com addresses in 
many years.  Many people with old and no longer needed email addresses, 
especially ones in widely-recognized domains (e.g. rr.com, one of the 
first large residential cable Internet ISPs in the US) donate them to 
spam-detection operations as traps, and there are people who use such 
trap addresses to test the subscription practices of mailing list 
operators. There is also a problem that receiving systems may have 
decided that 'rr.com' is an indication of spam, so that people who use 
an rr.com address as a mailing list user may cause the list traffic to 
get marked as spam and causing a cascade of deliverability proiblems. 
Some mailing list operators (as above) respond by refusing to allow 
subscriptions from domains they perceive as obsolete.



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Re: [mailop] fate of rr.com addresses

2021-12-06 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia  5.12.2021 o godz. 18:58:21 Fernando Cassia via mailop pisze:
> Emails sent to the phased out domains, Roadrunner.com or
> rr.com, are being flagged by email providers as spam or used as spam
> traps.

I wonder what this sentence might mean. Emails sent to @rr.com are marked as
spam... by whom? The only entity who can mark them as spam is the recipient,
ie. current operator of the rr.com domain, isn't it? This should not impact
delivery to other domains/mail providers. So I do not understand what the
author of this sentence is trying to say...
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Re: [mailop] fate of rr.com addresses

2021-12-05 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Robert Schoneman via mailop  
said:
>Does anyone know what the fate of email addresses that end in rr.com will be? 

My old twcny.rr.com address from when I had TWC/RR/Spectrum service still 
works, even though
I switched broadband providers two years ago.

I don't see anything that says it's going away.

R's,
John
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Re: [mailop] fate of rr.com addresses

2021-12-05 Thread Fernando Cassia via mailop
I found this

"In 2012 Roadrunner was bought by Time Warner Cable (TWC) and
rebranded as Spectrum. In 2015 Charter Communications purchased TWC
and therefore the Spectrum brand. As a result of the rebrand, all
roadrunner.com and rr.com emails have been phased out and rebranded as
Spectrum. ... Emails sent to the phased out domains, Roadrunner.com or
rr.com, are being flagged by email providers as spam or used as spam
traps. We have therefore made the decision to stop sending to these
domains." Jan 7, 2021

https://help.infusionsoft.com/help/roadrunner-addresses-disabled-from-sending

FC


On 05/12/2021, Robert Schoneman via mailop  wrote:
> Does anyone know what the fate of email addresses that end in rr.com will
> be? We've started to get a lot of auto-responses to emails sent to *.rr.com
> addresses saying "my email has changed". The auto-responses follow a
> standard format which makes me feel like Spectrum/Charter are trying to kill
> off the service. That said, we still get inbound emails from *.rr.com email
> addresses which we can (usually) respond to.
>
>
> Robert Schoneman | Director of IT
>
> Blumenthal Performing Arts
>


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[mailop] fate of rr.com addresses

2021-12-05 Thread Robert Schoneman via mailop
Does anyone know what the fate of email addresses that end in rr.com will be? 
We've started to get a lot of auto-responses to emails sent to *.rr.com 
addresses saying "my email has changed". The auto-responses follow a standard 
format which makes me feel like Spectrum/Charter are trying to kill off the 
service. That said, we still get inbound emails from *.rr.com email addresses 
which we can (usually) respond to.


Robert Schoneman | Director of IT

Blumenthal Performing Arts
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