Re: [mailop] spam filter deleting emails with php links

2015-03-26 Thread Ian Eiloart

 On 25 Mar 2015, at 15:55, Franck Martin fmar...@linkedin.com wrote:
 
 
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Howard F. Cunningham howa...@macrollc.com 
 wrote:
  
 I was told that the problem was that there was a rule in their filters that 
 delete, without notice, all emails that have php links in the emails?
  
 Has anyone ever heard of deleting emails with php links in a spam filter? 
 
 A bit drastic, the message should have been bounced during the SMTP 
 transaction.

I prefer the term rejected or denied. To me, bounced implies the sending 
of a non-delivery notification: you can’t be sure that will happen unless you 
generate the notification yourself. I think that’s the sense in which the terms 
are used in the SMTP RFCs.

 It does not surprise me someone would want to block such emails, considering 
 the number of compromised wordpress installation (that uses php). However it 
 is likely to have significant collateral damage.

Too true.

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Ian Eiloart
Postmaster, University of Sussex
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Re: [mailop] spam filter deleting emails with php links

2015-03-25 Thread Franck Martin

On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Howard F. Cunningham howa...@macrollc.com wrote:
  
 I was told that the problem was that there was a rule in their filters that 
 delete, without notice, all emails that have php links in the emails?
  
 Has anyone ever heard of deleting emails with php links in a spam filter? 

A bit drastic, the message should have been bounced during the SMTP transaction.

It does not surprise me someone would want to block such emails, considering 
the number of compromised wordpress installation (that uses php). However it is 
likely to have significant collateral damage.



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Re: [mailop] spam filter deleting emails with php links

2015-03-25 Thread Mike A
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 03:55:39PM +, Franck Martin wrote:
 
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Howard F. Cunningham howa...@macrollc.com 
 wrote:
   
  I was told that the problem was that there was a rule in their filters that 
  delete, without notice, all emails that have php links in the emails?
   
  Has anyone ever heard of deleting emails with php links in a spam filter? 
 
 A bit drastic, the message should have been bounced during the SMTP
 transaction.

 It does not surprise me someone would want to block such emails, considering
 the number of compromised wordpress installation (that uses php). However it
 is likely to have significant collateral damage.

Totally agree. Much better to reject with an appropriate message. Mail should
never just be vanished into a black hole without notice to the sender --
unless the sender is a known spammer. 

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Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mi...@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin 

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