VIRGIL: The furor of Amata
I'm working on tacitus' use of furor in relation to Messalina (Claudius' wife) and I remembered the Aeneid passage with Amata raging out of control (like a top) in Aeneid 7. I seem to recall reading it as an undergrad over 20 years ago. Does anyone have any current thoughts on the role of Amata and her madness (or, better yet, any images of it in medieval or modern art)? Seems a peculiarly feminist topic, although Tacitus certainly uses it to refer to the madness of soldiers fairly frequently (Hist. 1,63, 1.81, 2.46 and 4.27, as well as Annals 1.49. It is used for women in Annals 14.32, where he describes the causes of the Boudican revolt in Britain. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Cheers, Dr. James Stewart Southern Illinois University _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: The furor of Amata
x-richTry fontfamilyparamNew York/paramsmallerCourcelle, Pierre, underlineLecteurs/underline underlinePaïns/underline underlineet/underline underlinelecteurs/underline underlineChrétiens/underline underlinede/underline underlinel'Enéide/underline, 2 vols. vol. 1: for references in other authors up to - I think it is about 1000; vol. 2 for later manuscript illumination. I looked at Thilo and Hagen, which you have probably done already, and couldn't find anything useful (odd). Although he appears to have been woefully neglected, it might be worth looking at T. Claudius Donatus. I have the miniatures from the Vatican Vergil at hand and there is no sign of Amata. Helen COB Trinity Dublin/smaller/fontfamily On Wednesday, September 11, 2002, at 02:03 AM, James Stewart wrote: excerpt I'm working on tacitus' use of furor in relation to Messalina (Claudius' wife) and I remembered the Aeneid passage with Amata raging out of control (like a top) in Aeneid 7. I seem to recall reading it as an undergrad over 20 years ago. Does anyone have any current thoughts on the role of Amata and her madness (or, better yet, any images of it in medieval or modern art)? Seems a peculiarly feminist topic, although Tacitus certainly uses it to refer to the madness of soldiers fairly frequently (Hist. 1,63, 1.81, 2.46 and 4.27, as well as Annals 1.49. It is used for women in Annals 14.32, where he describes the causes of the Boudican revolt in Britain. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Cheers, Dr. James Stewart Southern Illinois University _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub /excerpt/x-rich From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 11 11:05:59 2002 X-Mozilla-Status: 0010 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by wilsonwork.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g8BBZCk03445 for mantovano-coke; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:35:12 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: wilsonwork.com: wilsonwk set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:04:51 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: James Butrica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VIRGIL: The furor of Amata Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: '7o!JZ=!!9?_!?+b! I'm working on tacitus' use of furor in relation to Messalina (Claudius' wife) and I remembered the Aeneid passage with Amata raging out of control (like a top) in Aeneid 7. I seem to recall reading it as an undergrad over 20 years ago. Does anyone have any current thoughts on the role of Amata and her madness (or, better yet, any images of it in medieval or modern art)? Seems a peculiarly feminist topic, although Tacitus certainly uses it to refer to the madness of soldiers fairly frequently (Hist. 1,63, 1.81, 2.46 and 4.27, as well as Annals 1.49. It is used for women in Annals 14.32, where he describes the causes of the Boudican revolt in Britain. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Cheers, Dr. James Stewart Southern Illinois University Is there anything relevant in Alison Keith's fairly recent book on women in epic (Gendering Epic I think was the title)? James L. P. Butrica Department of Classics The Memorial University of Newfoundland St. John's NL A1C 5S7 (709) 737-7914 --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: The furor of Amata
J. L. P. B. mentions Alison Keith; the title: Keith, A.M. , Engendering Rome: Women in Latin Epic, Cambridge (2000) http://www.cup.org/titles/catalogue.asp?isbn=052155621X ($US19.00 paperback) see index s.v. Amata also: On Amata and Allecto see Feeney D.C. (1991) The Gods in Epic: Poets and Critics of the Classical Tradition. Oxford There is an important new commentray on Aeneid 7: Horsfall, Nicholas, Virgil, Aeneid 7: a commentary. Mnemosyne Suppl. 198 (Leiden 2000) (disagreeing with Feeney on the top) not much on art in any of these James Butrica wrote: I'm working on tacitus' use of furor in relation to Messalina (Claudius' wife) and I remembered the Aeneid passage with Amata raging out of control (like a top) in Aeneid 7. I seem to recall reading it as an undergrad over 20 years ago. Does anyone have any current thoughts on the role of Amata and her madness (or, better yet, any images of it in medieval or modern art)? Seems a peculiarly feminist topic, although Tacitus certainly uses it to refer to the madness of soldiers fairly frequently (Hist. 1,63, 1.81, 2.46 and 4.27, as well as Annals 1.49. It is used for women in Annals 14.32, where he describes the causes of the Boudican revolt in Britain. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Cheers, Dr. James Stewart Southern Illinois University Is there anything relevant in Alison Keith's fairly recent book on women in epic (Gendering Epic I think was the title)? James L. P. Butrica -- Jim O'Hara Paddison Professor of Latin Director of Graduate Studies 206B Howell Hall phone: (919) 962-7649 fax: (919) 962-4036 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.unc.edu/~oharaj surface mail: James J. O'Hara Department of Classics CB# 3145, 101 Howell Hall The University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3145 --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: The furor of Amata
At 02:03 AM 9/11/2002 +, you wrote: I'm working on tacitus' use of furor in relation to Messalina (Claudius' wife) and I remembered the Aeneid passage with Amata raging out of control (like a top) in Aeneid 7. I seem to recall reading it as an undergrad over 20 years ago. Does anyone have any current thoughts on the role of Amata and her madness (or, better yet, any images of it in medieval or modern art)? Amata appears as an example of ungoverned anger in Purgatorio 17. Might look for her in illuminated Dante MSS. --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe mantovano in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
