Re: VIRGIL: Dido -----> Desdemona?

2002-10-29 Thread Alice Rubinstein 
actually, I have often thought of this comparison and mention it to my studetns 
 for me, the point of comparsion is the fact that both women are attracted - at 
least in part - to their men by their stories of heroism. the story creates, in 
part, the love.

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I suspect you _are_ out on a limb, though it's a very attractive one, and 
Marlowe's Dido - if not Virgil's - must have been fresh in the memory. I 
guess it depends whether one traces any similarities to the source - an 
Italian novella, if I remember right - or Shakespeare's treatment of it.

If the said limb can bear a little more weight, might one note that Dido is 
repeatedly 'infelix', while Othello's wife is also - etymologically - 
unfortunate, 'dysdaimon'?

Just a thought

Bob


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>The intriguing similarity of Dido falling in love with Aeneas as he tells
>his story and Desdemona falling in love with Othello as he tells his
>story -- I am sure people have noticed it but has anyone written about it?
>
>We have two strangers, heroes both of them, who have travelled far,
>encountered many adventures and faced many horrid dangers.  There is
>something in the setting of each woman that argues against their falling in
>love and yet they do fall in love..  And both ended up dead after only a
>short period of happiness, both killed by their husbands: Desdemona 
>directly
>and Dido indirectly, her man
>
> Aeneas [who] praebuit et causam mortis et ensem :
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>Though Shakespeare may have had little Latin, he knew more than most people
>alive then of Greek mythology and ancient history and literature.  It would
>be quite unreasonable to assume that he did not know the story of Dido.
>
>  Any opinion on this anyone?  Am I out on a limb?
>
>Ambros
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Re: VIRGIL: Fatherhood in the Aeneid/Epic

2002-05-14 Thread Alice Rubinstein 





Father Owen Lee write Fathers and Sons in the Aeneid or 
something with a similar title.
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Hello, 
 
I was wondering if listmembers knew of 
any works which treat the role of fatherhood in the Aeneid, or in 
classical 
epic, or in the works of any specific author of epic.
 
Paul Roche
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Queensland
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Hello List,
 
It has been suggested to me that Virgil was influenced by Stoic and/or 
Pythagorean philosphy in Aeneid book VI, but since I know very little about 
these philospohies I can not acertain the valididty of this statement. 
Therefore I would be extremely grateful if someone could fill in the gaps in my 
knowledge and give a few examples.
 
I appreciate any response,
 
Thanks You,
 
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Hello, 
 
I was wondering if listmembers knew of 
any works which treat the role of fatherhood in the Aeneid, or in 
classical 
epic, or in the works of any specific author of epic.
 
Paul Roche
University of 
Queensland
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I was wondering if listmembers knew of 
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classical 
epic, or in the works of any specific author of epic.
 
Paul Roche
University of 
Queensland
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