Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Kenneth Skovhede]

FYI: I have put up Maestro r4431 which fixes the WMS issues.

Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S



Kenneth Skovhede skrev:

Hi Mark, thanks for verifying this.

I have found and fixed the bug, details are in issue #1189:
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/1189
Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
  



Mark Pendergraft skrev:
Kenneth, I attempted to add the NASA site 
(http://wms.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?service=wms&version-1.1.1) as a WMS 
and yes, I was able to save the Feature Source by pressing "YES" on 
the error dialog, and yes i'm unable create a layer with Raster 
geometry. All this using 2.1 and the Maestro Preview. Thanks for your 
help. -Mark P.


Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S wrote:
I have commented on the issue created (or attempted to, since
trac is not responding):

The many messages are reported in issue #1149. The dialog is
actually a message like: Errors detected, save anyway? So,
you can just press enter, and it should save just fine. The
error message is a defect in MapGuide (issue #1061), which
should have been fixed in 2.1 release.

The reason you are not seeing the the messagebox in the older
version of Maestro is because the resource validator was not
implemented then. I recommend sticking to the preview, as it has
multiple bugfixes, and you can get around your current issue by
pressing . For your next issue, the featuresource is a WMS type,
which means that the output is a raster type. For some reason the
layer editor displays the vector layer editor. Since there is no
vector data, you cannot select a geometry column. I have no idea
why the WMS featuresource would be interpreted as a vector
featuresource, but if the featuresource you are using is the nasa
one, I can test it and hopefully fix it in a few days. Regards,
Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S Jason Birch skrev: > Can you please
file that as a bug against the Maestro component in the >
MapGuide Trac so that it can be easily addressed by Kenneth?
Please > include details such as the WMS site you were connecting
to and the > error message received. > > I still heartily
recommend using the current Maestro test build for > those who
aren't affected by this bug. The theming and expression > editor
enhancements alone make it more than worthwhile as long as >
there are no showstoppers for your use case.t > > On 2009-12-08,
Neil_w wrote: > >> Installing the current version of Maestro
solves the WMS connection problem. >> What an aggravation that
was! >> >> I'm still not able to view a feature from the service
though. None of the >> feature classes have any Geometry. Please
note the screen capture again. Are >> you getting anything? >> >>
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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Kenneth Skovhede]

Hi Mark, thanks for verifying this.

I have found and fixed the bug, details are in issue #1189:
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/1189

Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S



Mark Pendergraft skrev:
Kenneth, I attempted to add the NASA site 
(http://wms.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?service=wms&version-1.1.1) as a WMS 
and yes, I was able to save the Feature Source by pressing "YES" on 
the error dialog, and yes i'm unable create a layer with Raster 
geometry. All this using 2.1 and the Maestro Preview. Thanks for your 
help. -Mark P.


Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S wrote:
I have commented on the issue created (or attempted to, since trac
is not responding):

The many messages are reported in issue #1149. The dialog is
actually a message like: Errors detected, save anyway? So, you
can just press enter, and it should save just fine. The error
message is a defect in MapGuide (issue #1061), which should
have been fixed in 2.1 release.

The reason you are not seeing the the messagebox in the older
version of Maestro is because the resource validator was not
implemented then. I recommend sticking to the preview, as it has
multiple bugfixes, and you can get around your current issue by
pressing . For your next issue, the featuresource is a WMS type,
which means that the output is a raster type. For some reason the
layer editor displays the vector layer editor. Since there is no
vector data, you cannot select a geometry column. I have no idea
why the WMS featuresource would be interpreted as a vector
featuresource, but if the featuresource you are using is the nasa
one, I can test it and hopefully fix it in a few days. Regards,
Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S Jason Birch skrev: > Can you please
file that as a bug against the Maestro component in the > MapGuide
Trac so that it can be easily addressed by Kenneth? Please >
include details such as the WMS site you were connecting to and
the > error message received. > > I still heartily recommend using
the current Maestro test build for > those who aren't affected by
this bug. The theming and expression > editor enhancements alone
make it more than worthwhile as long as > there are no
showstoppers for your use case.t > > On 2009-12-08, Neil_w wrote:
> >> Installing the current version of Maestro solves the WMS
connection problem. >> What an aggravation that was! >> >> I'm
still not able to view a feature from the service though. None of
the >> feature classes have any Geometry. Please note the screen
capture again. Are >> you getting anything? >> >>
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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Mark Pendergraft]

Kenneth,
I attempted to add the NASA site
(http://wms.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?service=wms&version-1.1.1) as a WMS and
yes, I was able to save the Feature Source by pressing "YES" on the error
dialog, and yes i'm unable create a layer with Raster geometry.  All this
using 2.1 and the Maestro Preview.
Thanks for your help.

-Mark P.




Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S wrote:
> 
> I have commented on the issue created (or attempted to, since trac is 
> not responding):
> 
> 
>> The many messages are reported in issue #1149.
>> The dialog is actually a message like:
>> Errors detected, save anyway?
>> 
>> So, you can just press enter, and it should save just fine.
>> 
>> The error message is a defect in MapGuide (issue #1061), which should 
>> have been fixed in 2.1 release.
>> 
> 
> The reason you are not seeing the the messagebox in the older version of 
> Maestro is because
> the resource validator was not implemented then. I recommend sticking to 
> the preview, as it
> has multiple bugfixes, and you can get around your current issue by 
> pressing .
> 
> For your next issue, the featuresource is a WMS type, which means that
> the output is a raster type. For some reason the layer editor displays
> the vector layer editor. Since there is no vector data, you cannot 
> select a geometry column.
> 
> I have no idea why the WMS featuresource would be interpreted as a 
> vector featuresource,
> but if the featuresource you are using is the nasa one, I can test it 
> and hopefully fix it in a few days.
> 
> Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Birch skrev:
>> Can you please file that as a bug against the Maestro component in the
>> MapGuide Trac so that it can be easily addressed by Kenneth?  Please
>> include details such as the WMS site you were connecting to and the
>> error message received.
>>
>> I still heartily recommend using the current Maestro test build for
>> those who aren't affected by this bug. The theming and expression
>> editor enhancements alone make it more than worthwhile as long as
>> there are no showstoppers for your use case.t
>>
>> On 2009-12-08, Neil_w  wrote:
>>   
>>> Installing the current version of Maestro solves the WMS connection
>>> problem.
>>> What an aggravation that was!
>>>
>>> I'm still not able to view a feature from the service though. None of
>>> the
>>> feature classes have any Geometry. Please note the screen capture again.
>>> Are
>>> you getting anything?
>>>
>>> http://screencast.com/t/OTcyMDA0Y
>>>
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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S]

I have commented on the issue created (or attempted to, since trac is 
not responding):


The many messages are reported in issue #1149.
The dialog is actually a message like:
Errors detected, save anyway?

So, you can just press enter, and it should save just fine.

The error message is a defect in MapGuide (issue #1061), which should 
have been fixed in 2.1 release.



The reason you are not seeing the the messagebox in the older version of 
Maestro is because
the resource validator was not implemented then. I recommend sticking to 
the preview, as it
has multiple bugfixes, and you can get around your current issue by 
pressing .


For your next issue, the featuresource is a WMS type, which means that
the output is a raster type. For some reason the layer editor displays
the vector layer editor. Since there is no vector data, you cannot 
select a geometry column.


I have no idea why the WMS featuresource would be interpreted as a 
vector featuresource,
but if the featuresource you are using is the nasa one, I can test it 
and hopefully fix it in a few days.


Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S



Jason Birch skrev:

Can you please file that as a bug against the Maestro component in the
MapGuide Trac so that it can be easily addressed by Kenneth?  Please
include details such as the WMS site you were connecting to and the
error message received.

I still heartily recommend using the current Maestro test build for
those who aren't affected by this bug. The theming and expression
editor enhancements alone make it more than worthwhile as long as
there are no showstoppers for your use case.t

On 2009-12-08, Neil_w  wrote:
  

Installing the current version of Maestro solves the WMS connection problem.
What an aggravation that was!

I'm still not able to view a feature from the service though. None of the
feature classes have any Geometry. Please note the screen capture again. Are
you getting anything?

http://screencast.com/t/OTcyMDA0Y

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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Jason Birch]

Can you please file that as a bug against the Maestro component in the
MapGuide Trac so that it can be easily addressed by Kenneth?  Please
include details such as the WMS site you were connecting to and the
error message received.

I still heartily recommend using the current Maestro test build for
those who aren't affected by this bug. The theming and expression
editor enhancements alone make it more than worthwhile as long as
there are no showstoppers for your use case.t

On 2009-12-08, Neil_w  wrote:
>
> Installing the current version of Maestro solves the WMS connection problem.
> What an aggravation that was!
>
> I'm still not able to view a feature from the service though. None of the
> feature classes have any Geometry. Please note the screen capture again. Are
> you getting anything?
>
> http://screencast.com/t/OTcyMDA0Y
>
> --
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RE: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Neil_w]

Installing the current version of Maestro solves the WMS connection problem.
What an aggravation that was!

I'm still not able to view a feature from the service though. None of the
feature classes have any Geometry. Please note the screen capture again. Are
you getting anything?

http://screencast.com/t/OTcyMDA0Y

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RE: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Mark Pendergraft]

I can't speak for your install, but I was able to connect to the WMS provider
you used in your screencast in Maestro ver. 1.0.9.15910 with MGOS 2.1.  I
would uninstall the beta of Maestro and install the previous version and see
if that works.

-Mark P.


Neil_w wrote:
> 
> I'm running Maestro 1.1.0.4358. I believe it is beta but it was highly
> touted by Jason Birch in one of his posts so I assumed it was stable.
> Should I go back to another version?
> 
> The only other thing I can think of that might be causing problems is I
> downloaded an updated set of FDO providers from the Open Source website
> after installing Mapguide. I renamed the old FDO folder and added the
> updated folder to the Server folder.
> 
> Perhaps all my troubles are due to a corrupt installation. That would
> certainly make life miserable for a new user.
> 
> Can anyone verify whether I have a bad install or if it is the beta
> software?
> 
> I have Map 2010 (Civil3D 2010).
> 

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RE: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Neil_w]

I'm running Maestro 1.1.0.4358. I believe it is beta but it was highly touted
by Jason Birch in one of his posts so I assumed it was stable. Should I go
back to another version?

The only other thing I can think of that might be causing problems is I
downloaded an updated set of FDO providers from the Open Source website
after installing Mapguide. I renamed the old FDO folder and added the
updated folder to the Server folder.

Perhaps all my troubles are due to a corrupt installation. That would
certainly make life miserable for a new user.

Can anyone verify whether I have a bad install or if it is the beta
software?
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RE: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Dave Wilson]

I've not seen that error in Studio on Enterprise so there is either a problem 
with the installation or a problem with Maestro - I think it's the former, but 
I can't be entirely sure. What version of Maestro are you using? I'd download 
the latest beta version if you are trying to work against MGOS 2.1

Since you have Map can may be able to connect to your DWGs and publish them to 
MGOS, alternately you could export their data as SDF.

The raster provider is usually a configuration issue and there are many threads 
on those issues.

Yes you would realistically have to buy MGE to get Studio, but most of the 
connections in Map reflect what you need to do in MGOS, but the interface in 
Maestro may not be the same and may not have the same functionality requiring 
you to do more XML editing. I think you will also find DGN to be about the same 
as DWG. What version of Map 3D do you have?

Regards,
Dave

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Thanks to all for the suggestions and encouragement. I'll try to address a 
couple of responses in one post. To Dave Wilson regarding connecting to the WMS 
you posted: Here is a screen recording of what I get when I connect to the WMS. 
http://screencast.com/t/N2UwM2Rh As you can see I cannot get to the point where 
I can access any classes. What am I doing wrong? Once I am able to successfully 
load a map from a WMS I'll tackle coordinate systems and transparency 
techniques. Also, if I download a trial version of MG Enterprise, could I get 
by with just using the documentation along with MGOS and not install MG 
Enterprise? I'd really not want to go through another install and set up. To 
Mark P. regarding using Map 3D: I am able to connect to and load WMS maps into 
Map 3D via FDO. I also can load Raster images sucessfully. The process does not 
translate to Maestro however as the dialogues are different and I am not able 
to connect to either sources in Maestro. Please see my screen recording above 
for connecting to WMS. Here is a screen recording showing my connection to a 
raster image (TIF). Again, it doesn't want to work. 
http://screencast.com/t/NDA4Zjdk Again I ask, what am I doing wrong here? Also 
regarding Mapguide Studio to load DWG's: As far as I know I can't get Mapguide 
Studio unless we buy Mapguide Enterprise. As I have mentioned a few times, that 
is not an option right now. Perhaps I'll have to resort to translating DWG's 
for now and if we decide we want better DWG capabilities we could consider 
purchasing Mapguide Enterprise, unless there is another means to load DWG's 
directly. On a side note, is there a way to translate and load DGN's? Again 
thanks for the encouragement and help to all who have replied. I'll keep 
hammering for a few more days and see if I can get past this block in the road.

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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Neil_w]

Thanks to all for the suggestions and encouragement.

I'll try to address a couple of responses in one post.

To Dave Wilson regarding connecting to the WMS you posted:
Here is a screen recording of what I get when I connect to the WMS. 

http://screencast.com/t/N2UwM2Rh

As you can see I cannot get to the point where I can access any classes.
What am I doing wrong?

Once I am able to successfully load a map from a WMS I'll tackle coordinate
systems and transparency techniques.

Also, if I download a trial version of MG Enterprise, could I get by with
just using the documentation along with MGOS and not install MG Enterprise?
I'd really not want to go through another install and set up.

To Mark P. regarding using Map 3D: I am able to connect to and load WMS maps
into Map 3D via FDO. I also can load Raster images sucessfully. The process
does not translate to Maestro however as the dialogues are different and I
am not able to connect to either sources in Maestro.

Please see my screen recording above for connecting to WMS.

Here is a screen recording showing my connection to a raster image (TIF).
Again, it doesn't want to work.

http://screencast.com/t/NDA4Zjdk

Again I ask, what am I doing wrong here?

Also regarding Mapguide Studio to load DWG's: As far as I know I can't get
Mapguide Studio unless we buy Mapguide Enterprise. As I have mentioned a few
times, that is not an option right now. Perhaps I'll have to resort to
translating DWG's for now and if we decide we want better DWG capabilities
we could consider purchasing Mapguide Enterprise, unless there is another
means to load DWG's directly. On a side note, is there a way to translate
and load DGN's?

Again thanks for the encouragement and help to all who have replied. I'll
keep hammering for a few more days and see if I can get past this block in
the road.
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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Mark Pendergraft]

Neil,

What you are talking about is very doable, and much of it is fairly easy. 
You have an excellent resource at hand which i think you aren't using
though, and that is Map 3D.  Map 3D has help files to explain how to connect
to WMS and to Raster files.  Open a new drawing, and try connecting to both
types in Map and see if you can get them to work there.  Map also has help
files for all the connection types with a step-by-step guide.  The steps to
connect are generally the same.  If you are having problems connecting in
Map, then you will know something is up.

You CAN load multiple drawings using MapGuide Studio.  Another idea would be
to xref any desired drawings into a blank drawing, then bind and explode the
xrefs, then use the Export to SDF or Publish to MapGuide Feature.

I understand your frustation, when I first started out I was really confused
about how this was all supposed to work. And I too was wooed by a fancy
Autodesk presentation.  ;)  It's best to take it one step at a time.  And
the first step I would take is making sure your MapGuide installation is
running correctly by using it to view the sample data.  Then I would focus
on connecting to WMS and Raster in Map 3D.  Then worry about exporting
drawings to your map.

-Mark P.


Neil_w wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> The objective is to serve GIS data to in-house staff who either do not
> have Map or who do not know how to use it. I would like to mix in-house
> data with published resources and services. Some of our data is in DWG
> form (contour maps, etc.). Also I would like to overlay project drawings
> onto WMS maps if possible. I can do all of this in ArcGIS and Map but I
> want to make those maps available to staff rather than having to build
> their maps then print or email them in some digital form.
> 
> This endeavor was inspired by a presentation I attended which touted the
> ease of distributing GIS via MGOS at minimal cost. Having a distributed
> GIS was not a goal set by the company so there is no budget for it. I
> undertook this task with the hope that we could get a prototype system
> started and evolve it once the company saw it's benefit. Until I get it to
> that stage there will be little if any investment by the company.
> 
> I'll be digging into the other posts when time permits.
> 
> Thanks
> 

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[Neil_w]

Mark,

The objective is to serve GIS data to in-house staff who either do not have
Map or who do not know how to use it. I would like to mix in-house data with
published resources and services. Some of our data is in DWG form (contour
maps, etc.). Also I would like to overlay project drawings onto WMS maps if
possible. I can do all of this in ArcGIS and Map but I want to make those
maps available to staff rather than having to build their maps then print or
email them in some digital form.

This endeavor was inspired by a presentation I attended which touted the
ease of distributing GIS via MGOS at minimal cost. Having a distributed GIS
was not a goal set by the company so there is no budget for it. I undertook
this task with the hope that we could get a prototype system started and
evolve it once the company saw it's benefit. Until I get it to that stage
there will be little if any investment by the company.

I'll be digging into the other posts when time permits.

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RE: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Dave Wilson]

Why don't you try downloading a trial version of MGE 2010 as it comes with 
documentation and help?

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?siteID=123112&id=10301587

And no I'm not plugging this from a corporate perspective, just providing an 
option that might help make things clearer.

I'm not knocking any of the great support provided here, but you get what you 
pay for.

Sadly I don't think you will find any current tool where you can view DWG's 
directly in a web based environment. You are going to have to convert them to 
SHP or SDF for example.

As to WMS you create your connection and it should show a list of classes other 
than the primary one at the top. When you create your layer you pick one of 
these classes. Add that layer to a new map and see if it determines bounds and 
a coordinate system (it usually defaults to an LL84 or WGS 84 based system 
which may not be correct for your data, otherwise you may have to set this 
information manually. When specifying your connection ensure you include a 
version parameter:

http://wms.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?Service=WMS&Version=1.1.1

In order to determine the coordinate system (EPSG code) and bounds you should 
execute from a browser a GetCapabilities request:

http://wms.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?Service=WMS&Version=1.1.1&Request=GetCapabilities

You can get additional details about working with WMS here:

http://sandbox.mapguide.com/index.php/Web_Mapping_Service

I won't go into more details on the other things as I believe you can glean 
that from the documentation with the trial. Of course that doesn't cover the 
specifics of Maestro, the open source version of MG Studio, but understanding 
one should make the other clearer.

Regards,
Dave

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Subject: Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?


I appreciate the encouragement but I have spent lots of time researching.
That is why I am getting discouraged. For all the time I have invested I
have made little progress. Without a step by step instuction guide for
creating maps it is more a trial and error process to get anywhere, with
long diversions to help forums seeking guidance when things don't wok.

I looked at the Mapguide guide for developers link you posted. Without
delving into it in detail it appears to be oriented to developing maps using
programming, which I am not able to do. I am limited to Maestro or some
other authoring software that does not require programming. That is why I
was interested in Fusion but I don't yet understand whether it would help me
author maps without programming. From one post it appeared that it could
load DWG files without converting them. If I have to go through a conversion
process to load a every DWG then Mapguide is probably not a good solution
for us and I won't want to put a lot of time into it. Again I need guidance
on this.

As I mentioned, I was able to connect to a couple of WMS services but I
could not figure out how to display any layers from them. Saving the
resource resulted in errors. I didn't know what they mean which lead to
another excursion to the forum. When I try to create a layer from the
connected WMS, there is no geometry for them available, so nothing displays.

We really could use a step by step guide for building maps, not just a
sample map with no guide on what the various components are. It took me a
while to figure out what the .ASP, .JSP. and .php layouts were. I had to
figure out on my own how to use a Flexible layout and add a query widget.
Again, no instruction whatsoever.

If anyone can direct me to some step by step guides or tutorials it might
get me back in the saddle.

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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Mark Pendergraft]

Neil,
Perhaps an explanation of your end goals is in order.  What do you aim to
achieve?  After all, AutoCAD Map and Civil 3D can connect to WMS, and Raster
Images.  If you are trying to display drawings with these layers in the
background, then you don't really need MapGuide.  If you need to create a
website with this information, then MGOS is the way to go.

-Mark P.


Kori Maleski wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> I appreciate the encouragement but I have spent lots of time researching.
>> That is why I am getting discouraged. For all the time I have invested I
>> have made little progress. Without a step by step instuction guide for
>> creating maps it is more a trial and error process to get anywhere, with
>> long diversions to help forums seeking guidance when things don't wok.
>>
>> I looked at the Mapguide guide for developers link you posted. Without
>> delving into it in detail it appears to be oriented to developing maps
>> using
>> programming, which I am not able to do. I am limited to Maestro or some
>> other authoring software that does not require programming. That is why I
>> was interested in Fusion but I don't yet understand whether it would help
>> me
>> author maps without programming. From one post it appeared that it could
>> load DWG files without converting them. If I have to go through a
>> conversion
>> process to load a every DWG then Mapguide is probably not a good solution
>> for us and I won't want to put a lot of time into it. Again I need
>> guidance
>> on this.
>>
>> As I mentioned, I was able to connect to a couple of WMS services but I
>> could not figure out how to display any layers from them. Saving the
>> resource resulted in errors. I didn't know what they mean which lead to
>> another excursion to the forum. When I try to create a layer from the
>> connected WMS, there is no geometry for them available, so nothing
>> displays.
>>
>> We really could use a step by step guide for building maps, not just a
>> sample map with no guide on what the various components are. It took me a
>> while to figure out what the .ASP, .JSP. and .php layouts were. I had to
>> figure out on my own how to use a Flexible layout and add a query widget.
>> Again, no instruction whatsoever.
>>
>> If anyone can direct me to some step by step guides or tutorials it might
>> get me back in the saddle.
>>
>> --

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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Kori Maleski]

Neil,

You may want to look into attending a training session offered by Mapguide
oriented vendors/consultants.  They may be able to provide the training and
tutorial material you are looking for.

Some examples in your area(s):

http://www.spatialgis.com/services.html
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/



Cheers,

Kori Maleski





On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Neil_w  wrote:

>
> I appreciate the encouragement but I have spent lots of time researching.
> That is why I am getting discouraged. For all the time I have invested I
> have made little progress. Without a step by step instuction guide for
> creating maps it is more a trial and error process to get anywhere, with
> long diversions to help forums seeking guidance when things don't wok.
>
> I looked at the Mapguide guide for developers link you posted. Without
> delving into it in detail it appears to be oriented to developing maps
> using
> programming, which I am not able to do. I am limited to Maestro or some
> other authoring software that does not require programming. That is why I
> was interested in Fusion but I don't yet understand whether it would help
> me
> author maps without programming. From one post it appeared that it could
> load DWG files without converting them. If I have to go through a
> conversion
> process to load a every DWG then Mapguide is probably not a good solution
> for us and I won't want to put a lot of time into it. Again I need guidance
> on this.
>
> As I mentioned, I was able to connect to a couple of WMS services but I
> could not figure out how to display any layers from them. Saving the
> resource resulted in errors. I didn't know what they mean which lead to
> another excursion to the forum. When I try to create a layer from the
> connected WMS, there is no geometry for them available, so nothing
> displays.
>
> We really could use a step by step guide for building maps, not just a
> sample map with no guide on what the various components are. It took me a
> while to figure out what the .ASP, .JSP. and .php layouts were. I had to
> figure out on my own how to use a Flexible layout and add a query widget.
> Again, no instruction whatsoever.
>
> If anyone can direct me to some step by step guides or tutorials it might
> get me back in the saddle.
>
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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Neil_w]

I appreciate the encouragement but I have spent lots of time researching.
That is why I am getting discouraged. For all the time I have invested I
have made little progress. Without a step by step instuction guide for
creating maps it is more a trial and error process to get anywhere, with
long diversions to help forums seeking guidance when things don't wok.

I looked at the Mapguide guide for developers link you posted. Without
delving into it in detail it appears to be oriented to developing maps using
programming, which I am not able to do. I am limited to Maestro or some
other authoring software that does not require programming. That is why I
was interested in Fusion but I don't yet understand whether it would help me
author maps without programming. From one post it appeared that it could
load DWG files without converting them. If I have to go through a conversion
process to load a every DWG then Mapguide is probably not a good solution
for us and I won't want to put a lot of time into it. Again I need guidance
on this.

As I mentioned, I was able to connect to a couple of WMS services but I
could not figure out how to display any layers from them. Saving the
resource resulted in errors. I didn't know what they mean which lead to
another excursion to the forum. When I try to create a layer from the
connected WMS, there is no geometry for them available, so nothing displays.

We really could use a step by step guide for building maps, not just a
sample map with no guide on what the various components are. It took me a
while to figure out what the .ASP, .JSP. and .php layouts were. I had to
figure out on my own how to use a Flexible layout and add a query widget.
Again, no instruction whatsoever.

If anyone can direct me to some step by step guides or tutorials it might
get me back in the saddle.

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Re: [mapguide-users] Should I give up?

[Kori Maleski]

Neil,

Don't give up.  Just invest sometime researching.


DWG files are converted either by what is called a Load Procedure in
MapGuide Studio or by an export from Autocad Map.

WMS Data connections simply require the WMS server URL.  This URL is
provided by the vendor you are accessing.  When creating a Layer from that
data connection, it will list available WMS features.

Raster connections will depend on whether you are you use the Autodesk
provider or the GDAL.  For the GDAL, simply set the default raster location
to a folder that can be accessed by the Mapguide Service.  When creating a
Layer from that data connection, it will list available raster features.
You must specify the projection (spatial context) of the imagery, so that it
can be displayed properly.  Depending on the MapGuide version, you may have
to have the map in the same projection as the imagery for it to display.
Depending on the version, the preview for the imagery may fail, but will be
viewable in the final map.

Fusion is installed automatically with Mapguide.  It comes with several
default layouts.  You can edit with Maestro.  Some customization requires
programming knowledge.

Please read through the manuals provided at the OSGEO Mapguide site:

http://mapguide.osgeo.org/sites/mapguide.osgeo.org/files/MgOpenSourceDevGuide.pdf

Also refer to:

http://mapguide-central.ennoble.com.au/

Use nabble to scour the posts for relevant info:

http://n2.nabble.com/MapGuide-Open-Source-f1803226.html



Cheers,

Kori Maleski



On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Neil_w  wrote:

>
> Not having any experience with web based mapping I am finding it very
> difficult to make headway with Mapguide due to the lack of any consolidated
> sources for help. I have spent hours searching through forum posts trying
> to
> find answers to questions with little success.
>
> I need help with the following topics:
>
> Can I display DWG files with MapguideOS?
> (From what I read, I need to convert them to some other format)
>
> How do I connect to WMS services? (So far I have been able to connect but
> when I save the connection as a resource I get errors and I can't display
> anything. I haven't found a forum post to clearly outline the steps to
> connect and siplay a map form a WMS).
>
> How do I display raster images? (I can connect to TIF images but they don't
> display. Also I get only B&W color options. Again I haven't found an clear
> outline of steps to dislpay a raster).
>
> What is Fusion and do I need it or can I get by with Maestro? (A web search
> on Fusion gives hits on all kids of programiming stuff and I don't know if
> it applies. Searches on the forum brings lots of technical stuff but little
> helps me to understand if I need it).
>
> I know there are probably answers to all these questions and more but it is
> taking days to search and sift through all the irrelevant information. If I
> can't find a coherent source for help I'll have to give up on Mapguide,
> much
> as I would hate to, as I can see it would be such a great tool for our
> office.
>
> Can I have some encouragement here?
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[Neil_w]

Not having any experience with web based mapping I am finding it very
difficult to make headway with Mapguide due to the lack of any consolidated
sources for help. I have spent hours searching through forum posts trying to
find answers to questions with little success.

I need help with the following topics:

Can I display DWG files with MapguideOS? 
(From what I read, I need to convert them to some other format)

How do I connect to WMS services? (So far I have been able to connect but
when I save the connection as a resource I get errors and I can't display
anything. I haven't found a forum post to clearly outline the steps to
connect and siplay a map form a WMS).

How do I display raster images? (I can connect to TIF images but they don't
display. Also I get only B&W color options. Again I haven't found an clear
outline of steps to dislpay a raster).

What is Fusion and do I need it or can I get by with Maestro? (A web search
on Fusion gives hits on all kids of programiming stuff and I don't know if
it applies. Searches on the forum brings lots of technical stuff but little
helps me to understand if I need it).

I know there are probably answers to all these questions and more but it is
taking days to search and sift through all the irrelevant information. If I
can't find a coherent source for help I'll have to give up on Mapguide, much
as I would hate to, as I can see it would be such a great tool for our
office.

Can I have some encouragement here?
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