Re: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files

2009-04-06 Thread JC650

Sorry to dig this thread up from the grave.  I was posting another message 
through nabble and it showed my old posts.  I just wanted to respond to the 
tail end of this thread that the problem I wrote about was no longer an issue 
in MG2010, as it was in 2009,2008,and 2007; so that anyone searching would be 
aware.

This thread was actually from 2007.

-joe



Marty,

Sounds like the position I was in a couple years ago. My focus, however, is on 
airport campus’ and their facilities but the basics are the basics. So I don’t 
waste everyones time getting into an unnecessary essay on what I think is the 
best approach, would you be willing to share what your existing skill set is? 
.NET? C#? VB? Oracle? ObjectARX.NET?  You mention “program … that will 
extract/inject all the attribute information to/from a SQL Server database.” 
What did you use to do this?

r,
dennis



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Re: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files

2009-04-06 Thread djonio

Marty,

Sounds like the position I was in a couple years ago. My focus, however, is on 
airport campus’ and their facilities but the basics are the basics. So I don’t 
waste everyones time getting into an unnecessary essay on what I think is the 
best approach, would you be willing to share what your existing skill set is? 
.NET? C#? VB? Oracle? ObjectARX.NET?  You mention “program … that will 
extract/inject all the attribute information to/from a SQL Server database.” 
What did you use to do this?

r,
dennis

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RE: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files

2007-10-31 Thread Andy Morsell
Wow, sounds like you have quite a project.  Yes, moving all of this data
into a spatial database would probably make the most sense.  Look at
possibly using PostGIS and the maturing PostGIS FDO provider with MGOS.
There are other options, such as Oracle Spatial and MsSqlSpatial for SQL
Server.  In both cases, you can use the open source King FDO providers
(www.sl-king.com).  Obviously, moving all of this data into the spatial
databases will take some significant cleanup, standardization and effort,
but once that is done, your maintenance processes should become much easier
than having to deal with 10,000 flat files.  You may also want to consider
looking at Safe Software FME (www.safe.com) for doing bulk extract,
transform and loading of your data.  It is an invaluable tool for situations
such as these.  It is not open source, but it is well worth the money.


Andy 

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Andy, Thanks for the reply and please excuse my ignorance in this area.
The maps are 15 deg tile maps that cover 4 adjoining states. These were then
further broke out into a "master grid" to fit the 3000' x 2000' map size.
Then information was drafted on these. I can't use the originals because
when errors were found or a subdivision that was missing was added they were
not placed on their own layer. This is not quite the way I would have done
things but we work with what we have.
There is a layering standard but as with most major projects there will be
some clean up. The layer count is 191 layers but each map has some temp
layers that will need to be purged. Most of the layers have only one type of
information lines, blocks, text, etc. but there are a couple that mix lines
and blocks and I am guessing I may want to change that. All of the blocks
have some type of attribute information or another that would be nice to be
able to retrive.
I have a program I developed that will extract/inject all the attribute
information to/from a SQL Server database.
I have recieved my Mapguide CD from Autodesk and installed Mapguide
Enterprise 2008 Server and Studio trials and went through the exercises that
were provided in the "Getting Started Guide". That is the extent of my
training but I understand the concept somewhat. This is something I am doing
on my own so its not company funded yet so I plan to switch to the open
source server. I just used the Autodesk version for the exercises because a
couple things did'nt work without it. Hopefully I can at least get them to
spring for the studio portion if that is sold seperately.

After all that rambling on what I am looking for is just some advice as how
to aproach it so I don't just make a huge mess and have to start over again
and again.

Thanks,
Marty


Andy Morsell wrote:
> 
> There are many potential approaches to this depending on the source data.
> Are these 10,000 maps actually tiled maps that you would like to 
> display on one MapGuide map?  Such as individual USGS T-R grids that 
> are edge-matched?
> Or, are they completely independent of one another and would be 
> separate MapGuide maps?  Are there consistent layering standards for 
> all of the DWG's?
> 
> Andy Morsell, P.E. 
> Spatial Integrators, Inc. 
> http://www.SpatialGIS.com
> 
>   _
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty 
> Coonrod
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:04 AM
> To: mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files
> 
> 
> 
> I have a lot of maps (approx 10,000) that were created in AutoCAD. The 
> dimensions are 3000' x 2000' and were created using USGS base. I would 
> like to bring all of this data into Mapguide and was wondering what 
> the best approach would be. I have AutoCAD, AutoCAD Map 3D, Mapguide 
> studio to use.
> I
> am just not sure if I should create larger files or try to move some 
> of the data to a database.
> I would still like to edit the maps and update the server when necessary. 
> 
> Marty
> 
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RE: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files

2007-10-31 Thread Marty Coonrod

Andy, Thanks for the reply and please excuse my ignorance in this area.
The maps are 15 deg tile maps that cover 4 adjoining states. These were then
further broke out into a "master grid" to fit the 3000' x 2000' map size.
Then information was drafted on these. I can't use the originals because
when errors were found or a subdivision that was missing was added they were
not placed on their own layer. This is not quite the way I would have done
things but we work with what we have.
There is a layering standard but as with most major projects there will be
some clean up. The layer count is 191 layers but each map has some temp
layers that will need to be purged. Most of the layers have only one type of
information lines, blocks, text, etc. but there are a couple that mix lines
and blocks and I am guessing I may want to change that. All of the blocks
have some type of attribute information or another that would be nice to be
able to retrive.
I have a program I developed that will extract/inject all the attribute
information to/from a SQL Server database.
I have recieved my Mapguide CD from Autodesk and installed Mapguide
Enterprise 2008 Server and Studio trials and went through the exercises that
were provided in the "Getting Started Guide". That is the extent of my
training but I understand the concept somewhat. This is something I am doing
on my own so its not company funded yet so I plan to switch to the open
source server. I just used the Autodesk version for the exercises because a
couple things did'nt work without it. Hopefully I can at least get them to
spring for the studio portion if that is sold seperately.

After all that rambling on what I am looking for is just some advice as how
to aproach it so I don't just make a huge mess and have to start over again
and again.

Thanks,
Marty


Andy Morsell wrote:
> 
> There are many potential approaches to this depending on the source data.
> Are these 10,000 maps actually tiled maps that you would like to display
> on
> one MapGuide map?  Such as individual USGS T-R grids that are
> edge-matched?
> Or, are they completely independent of one another and would be separate
> MapGuide maps?  Are there consistent layering standards for all of the
> DWG's?
> 
> Andy Morsell, P.E. 
> Spatial Integrators, Inc. 
> http://www.SpatialGIS.com 
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Coonrod
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:04 AM
> To: mapguide-users@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files
> 
> 
> 
> I have a lot of maps (approx 10,000) that were created in AutoCAD. The
> dimensions are 3000' x 2000' and were created using USGS base. I would
> like
> to bring all of this data into Mapguide and was wondering what the best
> approach would be. I have AutoCAD, AutoCAD Map 3D, Mapguide studio to use.
> I
> am just not sure if I should create larger files or try to move some of
> the
> data to a database. 
> I would still like to edit the maps and update the server when necessary. 
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
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RE: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files

2007-10-31 Thread Andy Morsell
There are many potential approaches to this depending on the source data.
Are these 10,000 maps actually tiled maps that you would like to display on
one MapGuide map?  Such as individual USGS T-R grids that are edge-matched?
Or, are they completely independent of one another and would be separate
MapGuide maps?  Are there consistent layering standards for all of the
DWG's?

Andy Morsell, P.E. 
Spatial Integrators, Inc. 
http://www.SpatialGIS.com 

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Subject: [mapguide-users] Best method to use dwg files



I have a lot of maps (approx 10,000) that were created in AutoCAD. The
dimensions are 3000' x 2000' and were created using USGS base. I would like
to bring all of this data into Mapguide and was wondering what the best
approach would be. I have AutoCAD, AutoCAD Map 3D, Mapguide studio to use. I
am just not sure if I should create larger files or try to move some of the
data to a database. 
I would still like to edit the maps and update the server when necessary. 

Marty

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